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Cleaning out a computer case requires two Phillips head screws, and at best thumb screws. I don't have to take my case to corsair or HP to have them clean it for me because I can't get the tools required.

I work at a ubreakifix, I work with iMacs. Apple makes it difficult on purpose so you basically have to break something to get into it. We don’t of course, but even with professional 3rd part apples bullshit prevents us from doing a good job

What I'm saying is Apple purposely made it proprietary when nobody else does. 

Cleaning out a computer case requires two Phillips head screws, and at best thumb screws. I don't have to take my case to corsair or HP to have them clean it for me because I can't get the tools required.

no because that would be illegal. But I shouldn't have to risk thousands to clean out dust because Apple didnt put any filters in. 

no because that would be illegal. But I shouldn't have to risk thousands to clean out dust because Apple didnt put any filters in. 

Apple probably would say:
 
 

Apple is actively preventing just that. They are using ICE to seize replacement parts as they are arriving from overseas so unless you purchase the part directly from Apple (not possible unless you're an authorized repair shop) there's a possibility that a replacement screen you ordered on eBay might never arrive.

Cleaning out a computer case requires two Phillips head screws, and at best thumb screws. I don't have to take my case to corsair or HP to have them clean it for me because I can't get the tools required.

It is also a major factor in global warming. This is a good thing. 

It is also a major factor in global warming. This is a good thing. 

Excess is the amount of cows we need that will make up the byproducts, which is FAR less than the amount we need for food and byproducts 

I'm shocked at how many people of this sub aren't willing to even consider changing their ways even when told about how beneficial this stuff is. It will literally save so many lives in the long run but "hur dur I want natural meat with my natural medication and my natural lifestyle, who cares if it's killing both humans and animals"

I'm shocked at how many people of this sub aren't willing to even consider changing their ways even when told about how beneficial this stuff is. It will literally save so many lives in the long run but "hur dur I want natural meat with my natural medication and my natural lifestyle, who cares if it's killing both humans and animals"

Also Lab Meat can be healthier, and help reduce the over use of antibiotics.

It soon will be cheaper. Without a doubt. That's why people will buy it. 
 

It soon will be cheaper. Without a doubt. That's why people will buy it. 
 

Excess is the amount of cows we need that will make up the byproducts, which is FAR less than the amount we need for food and byproducts 

Also cows for milk don't require near as much feed as cows for meat are. 

It is also a major factor in global warming. This is a good thing. 

Realistically speaking. There is no good reason to not grow our own protein-only supplements directly. Tofu exists on this base principle (and many others), but still requires the growing of copious excess crop for the protein content.
 
It is unfathomable that by the same principles lab-grown meat (assuming you can get it to the same or lower specific energy requirements) should not be used and promoted.
 
Of course we are a ways away from that level, but it's a good end goal.
 
Besides, the FDA and/or whoever else you want to regulate the safety and purity of these things can do that far easier in a controlled lab than on a farm.
 
On this same principle, even if it was possible, ethanol as used for any (non-food) scientific is always distilled from petroleum because that yields more consistent and pure products.

Side rant... not worth deleting, but also not directly relevant.
 

I don't think "wants to be more natural" is a valid reason though.
If someone decided to pour a bunch of oil into the ocean "because they felt like it" then I don't think that would be a sufficient reason either.
 
Both pouring oil into the ocean and eating meat contribute greatly to destruction of our environment, it is expensive and it does nothing but fill people with a false sense of accomplishment or something.
 
And don't get me wrong. I eat meat, and I love it. I eat meat like 12 times a week, if not more, and I am sure other people do it too. That's why I think it is important to find an alternative to our currently extremely inefficient method of producing meat (a problem that is only amplified by things like free range meat) with all of its drawbacks (like speeding up the development and spread of antibiotic resistant bacteria).
 
Once you start advocating against the solution to big environmental issues and health risks then you kind of need a better reason than "it's not natural".
Our current meat production is certainly not natural either. At least not the meat that 90% of us eat is, and things like "organic, free range meat" is way to expensive and wasteful for mass scale production to meet demands.
 
People need to realize that things like organic food is a luxury that not everyone can afford. And I don't mean that in the sense that I can't pay a couple of bucks extra to get some organic tomatoes over the regular ones. I mean that in the sense that if everyone switched over to only eating organic, our food production capacity would drop to somewhere between 50 and 80% of what we got today. Considering the fact that we already have millions of people starving to death every year, saying that we should cut food production in half (by some estimates) is kind of insane.
It's like saying you are OK with killing millions of people because you think eating salad sprayed with things like Rotenone makes you feel better than eating one sprayed with a synthetic pesticide. It's complete lunacy.
 
 
Not sure what you mean by "lover lever" but I assume that's crops grown to feed things like cattle? If that's the case, then I think you got cause and effect confused.
We don't have a large meat industry because we happened to have a much of cattle feed lying around. We started growing more food for cattle because the meat industries demands have grown larger and larger.
If the demand for meat got smaller, the 50% of farm land you said is used for "lover lever" would be allocated to other things.

You sound like the type who buys straws just to throw into the ocean and modify's your truck for rolling coal.

The point is that it is real meat. the only difference is that it was never attached to the rest of an animal

Well, if you want to be seen as a logical and rational person you kind of do.
There are plenty of things which are not "natural" (whatever that means) which are very good. For example, ,medicine, houses with heating, refrigeration, computers, glasses, and so on.
There are also plenty of natural things which are not good. Cyanide for example is natural, yet extremely deadly.
 
 
Lab grown meat could be revolutionary.
It might be possible to make it taste better than regular meat.
It might be possible to make it more nutritious that regular meat.
It might become cheaper than regular meat.
It will most likely dramatically reduce the environmental impact of the meat business (which is a massive contributor to green house gasses).
It is more humane.
 
On top of that, one benefit I don't think I've seen mentioned before is the spread of antibiotic resistant bacteria.
Animals bred for slaughter is often pumped full of antibiotics in order to keep them from getting infested with bacteria. The problem with this is that it has lead to rapid development of antibiotic resistant bacteria, which is a VERY serious threat to humanity. There are already over 20,000 people dying each year in the US from antibiotic resistant bacteria, and that number will only increase as the number of resistant bacteria increases (which it will, it's evolution).
 
So there are tons of benefits from this, including possibly saving millions of human life or crippling illness, and government money too.