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Thanks... that might work actually, will need to do some measurements.

The 32GK850G is technically AMVA, but that's essentially VA. It does have a VESA mount, I had it mounted on one myself so can confirm that. It's behind where the stand mounts at the center rear, in the circular area.

VA panels vary... they aren't all identical, although certain issues are generally inherent, to varying degrees. Hard to know precisely why this occurs, but it's all electronics and how the monitor functions at the end of the day. The LG 32GK850G, if you read reviews like this one: https://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/lg_32gk850g.htm highlight how good it is.

The problem is a shop really isn't the best environment for looking at a monitor and determining its suitability. You may notice very obvious flaws, if the smearing is really bad for example, but you might not. It's tricky, but better than nothing I suppose. I'd definitely try and check out those LG's and MSI options if you can though.

Would anyone know if a dual monitor stand/arm arrangement exists where in which you can, as required, change the position of the screens so that one or the other is central to your viewing position? Everything I've seen seems 'fixed' in terms of either a stacked or side by side arrangement... ideally I would like to be able to switch between a 32" 4K screen for work, and a 27" high refresh for gaming... but be able to center the chosen monitor to my viewing position each time. I'd rather not be looking off to the left or right for one or the other. I don't know if this is possible though, outside of detaching VESA mounts every time I want to switch.

TN has its flaws, gamma shift, poor colours, viewing angles etc. all exacerbated at that size. In fact, I'm not sure there are many TN panels at 32" actually... most are VA. I would say your best options were one of the LG's... 32GK850G-B, 32GK650F or 32GK850F, or the curved MSI Envit0 mentions above, which is pretty good. MSI have had some decent monitors of late actually, and reasonably priced, so they are well worth a look.

This is the problem with VA panels... they smear. It's largely inherent to the tech, although the LG 32GK850G-B is actually far better in this regard, so that would be worth a look. I had one myself briefly and found it very good, but I did return it, simply because I found the PPI a bit too low coming from 4K. It isn't curved, but you shouldn't let that put you off, because it's definitely one of the best VA panels you can get. Otherwise, I don't think the monitor you seek exists, not in that very specific spec, as every other VA panel will smear, and there are no IPS curved options. You may have to look at smaller monitors, and there are far more 27" size than 32"... and I'd argue that's preferable anyway, unless you have less than perfect vision or the monitor will be at a further distance. Aorus CV27Q is soon to be released and meets your spec albeit in 27" size, but I'm sure will smear. If you're sensitive to this, I think EVERY VA monitor might be a problem for you. But you'd have to try and see.

27" is definitely too small for 4K... 32" is OK, but I'd prefer 40", and high refresh of course. Sadly, the Asus XG438Q is a joke, and I don't see Acer's CG437K equivalent doing much better. The whole monitor market is rather depressing at the moment tbh... it's either specs that fall short of what we want, inherent flaws to the tech or faults in general, and no evidence of any QC process on monitors that have four-figure price tags. It's absolutely ridiculous.

No, you won't get 120FPS+ in all games with options jacked up. But even 1440p won't give you that in ALL games. There are plenty of decent 1080p monitors to choose from if that's what you want though, and 27" 1440p is also very good and I'd say the sweet spot for gaming these days. GPUs simply aren't powerful enough to give you those frame rates at this resolution though, not in AAA titles anyway. This is more of a productivity/gaming hybrid monitor... but it does neither perfectly. If you're an out and out gamer who demands high FPS, this really isn't the monitor to go for. Same as if you only used your monitor for work tasks, then 4K would be far better suited. The price is what makes this monitor so stupid though IMO, it just makes no sense. I genuinely hope no one buys it and LG realise they got this wrong, but sadly, I know plenty will.

You're pretty safe for the next year or so AT LEAST... there's nothing in this space that will rival either of these really, short of another manufacturer using the panel, but that would be incremental, nothing 'new'. The monitor industry moves at a snail's pace, so if another monitor were announced today we wouldn't see it available for at least a year anyway. There are some higher refresh 4K 32" monitors due next year, but regards 38" and 34" UW, the two you've mentioned, or at least the panels they're using, are as good as it gets for the foreseeable future. Personally, I think the 38" is obscenely overpriced for what it offers, but that size/resolution is a nice bump from 34". That said though, given we haven't seen the LG 38" in action yet, and the fact it's IPS, I would expect the strong likelihood of bleed/glow issues there, just as we saw on the 34GK950F/G. IPS monitors only seem to be getting worse in this regard. You don't get that on VA, although the trade off is some black smearing in faster gaming... and the reviews of the MSI highlight this, although it's not THAT bad based on all reviews I've seen. There's a compromise whichever way you go though, and that's the bottom line with any monitor purchase these days... pick your poison and cross your fingers!!

I'm not presuming that... it's obvious you don't by your use of phrases such as "doom and gloom", and calling my facts "pointless statements" and "nonsense", when not only do they answer the very question you posed in your previous post (i.e what my point was), but also speak precisely to what I said in my very first post. You'd have saved us both a lot of time if you just said you didn't care in the first place and kept your head stuck in the sand. Nothing I've said is wrong, so there's not even a debate to be had... you just don't like it. I don't feel like I know more... I clearly do, and it has nothing to do with being a 'realist', but even if I were, is that such a bad thing? The world and our society is what it is... make of it what you will, and if that reality depresses you such that you choose to see it a different way, or ignore aspects of it entirely, that is of course your right. But it doesn't change what's ACTUALLY going on outside your head. The subject at hand has NEVER been what this monitor does, nor is it even about why YOU decided to buy it. Not once has that been the topic of our discussion since my very first post. You WANT it to be, because that's all you're capable of arguing for, and all your blinkered view is capable of comprehending... why YOU do things and why YOU bought this monitor. And that is utterly irrelevant to a single thing I've said. But let's actually pick up on the innovation aspect in respect to the PG35VQ... because there is nothing truly innovative about this monitor, which really shouldn't be surprising given it was announced over 2-years ago, and the spec hasn't changed since then. The only innovative aspect is that it's a conglomeration of now relatively antiquated and flawed/imperfect/end-of-life technologies. That's the only innovation, and kudos to Asus for pulling this off and releasing a monitor that's using years old tech and convincing people like you that they're 'innovating'. Pure genius. FALD and HDR... done better in cheaper TV's, 512-zones isn't enough and has been around for years, but certainly won't be for that much longer. 144Hz, it's fine, but has been around forever... OC to 200hz comes with colour compromise and other issues.... VA panel tech, same inherent issues it's always had, nothing innovative here either, but at least it doesn't make it any worse... size and resolution, been there done that at less than half the price. This adds 1"... OHMAGAWD!!! Yeah, right, OK. None of this means it's a bad monitor... that isn't what I'm saying before you start putting words in my mouth, but it isn't true innovation... innovative idea and marketing though, sure. No true enthusiast who appreciates genuine innovative technology wants ANY of this to "trickle down"... it all needs to be done BETTER, because singularly, there is nothing here that is uniquely innovative and new, and that cannot (and arguably shouldn't already have been) improved upon by now. This monitor is going to be an antique in a year or two, and that's another topic you clearly don't want to go anywhere near... VALUE, because regardless how much anyone wants this and is willing to pay, the actual value/performance/lifespan is an absolute joke. And don't pretend that doesn't matter, even if it doesn't to you... this kind of business model is simply unsustainable for reasons I've already mentioned. The truly innovative monitors in the years ahead won't carry forward anything of the PG35VQ... the future is Micro-LED, more dimming zones, faster native panels and obviously higher res. This monitor innovates NOTHING, but making you think otherwise is exactly what Asus knows gets chumps to pay this price for it. It's a cash grab, pure and simple.

Again, you're just not grasping the fundamentals. You are lumping generic consumerism in with this... and that has always been a thing, and always will be. Since human civilization began, we have needed to purchase and consume stuff, and this is never going to change. I am not talking about that, nor am I for one second suggesting it's a bad thing. I don't even think you understand what I am talking about though, and the negative impact mass consumerism/mass consumer culture has in the world today... coveting and desiring products for no reason other than the social status they provide, or simply because we must have the new shiny shiny. For many people, how they feel and are defined revolves around their consumption of stuff. They have confused a 'good life' with 'goods', and we certainly no longer live by what we need, rather by what we 'want'. For so many of us, our entire lives centre around working in order to buy these things we want, which will in turn make us happier... at least that's what we're supposed to think. You can dump over this and call it doom and gloom if you want, because there is certainly a side to it that isn't pretty, but it's a categorical fact that we live in a culture of desire. Obviously, there will be economic benefits to this... mostly at the top of the food chain though... company execs, shareholders etc. and sure, some charities benefit, community projects etc., it's not all doom and gloom, but ultimately, it's us that suffers. Numerous studies and research back this up, demonstrating that people who place a priority value on wealth, status and material possession tend to suffer far more with depression and anti-social behaviour. And these numbers aren't decreasing, on the contrary. Again, these are just the facts, but feel free to ignore them. Furthermore, the idea this pushes innovation can absolutely be seen the other way round, and this is a key point that you're missing. Why would a company feel the need to innovate when they KNOW all they need to do is figure out a way to make people WANT something? It doesn't have be what they think they want, and certainly not what they need... they just need to do the bare minimum to make people DESIRE it more than the last thing. Let's take this monitor in question... it's not perfect, plenty of room for improvement. But they know they've got one of the best monitors on the market right now that people will pay a premium for, so they release it. Could they have worked on it another six months... of course. Asus are a billion dollar company, easy, but than that would have meant a delay in profits, and they then couldn't so easily put out a new version in a couple of years with said improvements and charge even more. Because why the hell would they do that when they know people will buy it as it is? Intel did it with CPUs, Nvidia with GPUs, and every monitor manufacturer does it. They are making money hand over fist and the innovation is coming at a snail's pace... and you're in cloud cuckoo land if you honestly think innovation is a priority over Exec bonuses, profits and shareholder satisfaction. Like I say, you seem to think this is the only way, but you aren't even questioning how sustainable this model is. Look at Intel for example... they relied far too long on their brand power, the assumption they could just keep churning out micro improvements and charge more money for them. They obviously had no competition for years, so this stalled any need for the innovation which consumers were crying out for. But people still bought them! It took AMD to shake things up, but if Ryzen had never existed, we'd still be paying stupid money for 4-core CPUs, and you'd be making the same arguments that you're making for this monitor... because those CPUs would still be the best. I'm sure you will argue this proves your point, but AMD actually brought a product to market which CRUSHED Intel on value/performance, and Ryzen 3 is continuing that trend. This is good old fashioned consumerism in action... giving consumers EXACTLY what they want, at the price they want. THAT'S how you do it.

Oh dear. Whether you think it's doom and gloom isn't really the point... but mass consumerism IS a thing. I am not doom and gloom about that personally, but I recognise that it exists and IS a problem in certain sections of our society. If you choose to bury your head in the sand about that and ignore it, that is of course your right, but you seem to actually be suggesting it doesn't even exist, which is just laughable and ridiculous... despite no real attempt to refute it. And that was all my original post a million years ago was speaking to. Of course the world revolves around money. That's EXACTLY the point, and why we exist in a world where mass consumerism is a thing! Your ignorance on this subject is utterly astounding, because you're referencing the very things that have given rise to mass consumerism over the decades. Unfortunately, you seem to now be stuck in this little bubble looking inwards, where that's ALL you can see, and you think this is how it always has and should be. And that's very sad. Very sad indeed.

Mass consumerism is nonsense spawned from someone's imagination, and the only way we advance and innovate as a species is if we make profit from it? Really? You're actually saying that? On the internet? For everyone to see? Wow. Care to explain that? No, probably not. Where was mass consumerism in Ancient Egypt? Roman times? The Ancient Greeks? Did they not advance or innovate? Did they solely need to profit to do so? Just give up... this has gone wayyyy over your head. Back to school for you.

Mass consumerism is a disease.... there is nothing good about it, and while there will be winners in any situation, society as a whole is going down the toilet and the negatives far outweigh any positives. There's nothing wrong with consumption. We will always need to consume things, products etc. and this ensures progress and innovation. But, there is a problem with mass consumerism. It's an even larger problem that our economy hinges on us buying more and more and more and more without ever examining who suffers. Spoiler alert: it's you, me, production, and the economy. If you don't understand this, then you simply don't understand what your'e talking about. In order to keep consumer rates high, we have driven down prices by making cheaper and cheaper products (with obvious exceptions, and this monitor is not a mass consumer product of course, but it speaks to the same psychology). We have cut jobs, and outsourced all of the production to keep labour costs at an all time low. We make goods that break easily that need to consistently be replaced. We are bombarded with lies, "If you have this, you'll be happy," "If you obtain this, you'll get the girl," "If you buy this, you'll be beautiful." And it's never enough. We mindlessly consume, constantly looking to upgrade, to consistently work to only be able to keep our heads above water in our consumerist society, to feel like you have to keep up. That you have to buy the nicest car, the biggest house, to have newest game system, the nicest watch... whatever it is. This is the world we all live in, so denying that is nonsensical. Mass consumerism creates impossible aspirations – the very principles it is based on make it a logical impossibility for it to make us happy. If the idea of consumerism is to continually create new needs in people and make them consume more, this will result in us constantly chasing after a carrot on a stick. Although we might reach it sometimes (by buying a particular product), a new ‘carrot’ (i.e 'want') will then appear. A lack of fulfillment is therefore built into the whole idea of consumerism. This is not surprising – if the system isn't aimed at meeting human needs and interests, but at generating profit, then it will only be a matter of extreme luck that it ends up doing the former. However, the alternative to this is categorically not a cease in progress or innovation... again, this is inevitable as it has been since the beginning of time. Tech will always improve regardless, so that's an entirely separate thing, and you seem to be getting quite confused there. You can certainly argue this is a bleak viewpoint, because it actually IS a bleak situation, but narrow minded? Not at all... I'm seeing the big picture and things for what they really are... it's you who needs to open your eyes.

Again, like I said before, this has nothing to do with judging anyone. I'm not sure why you're so persistent on that point, and I fail to see what you're struggling to comprehend. This is a widely discussed topic... mass consumerism, our 'want' for things... and it's very much a modern phenomena. The overarching idea in our modern society that in order to be happier, better and more successful people, we have to have more stuff... better stuff, a never-ending cycle... and that's ultimately what the logic of consumerism dictates... it wouldn't work otherwise, obviously! If you don't want to accept any of this, that's your choice, but it doesn't change the facts.

You're going wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy off topic from my original point which has ABSOLUTELY ZERO to do with business practices or the monitor industry.

Wrong, wrong and wrong. That's genuinely hilarious. The 27" 4K 144Hz monitors dropped significantly in price (by nearly 40%) when they didn't sell as well as hoped, and there was zero competition to cause this. Did innovation stop? Of course not. The profit margins on these high end monitors is insane. There is no tech here that justifies the price tag, and look at the reviews... blooming is a problem with FALD on, input lag isn't great and there's the typical VA ghosting. It's an imperfect niche monitor for those who WANT to be on the bleeding edge, but intrinsically, it's not worth the price... and that has nothing to do with its worth to an individual, because you can take that position with absolutely anything, to the point of absurdity.

I never said people wanting things isn't a fact... quite the opposite actually, but you've never once really grasped what I said. I said that this 'want' is all many people think about, at the expense of everything else. The 'want' overrides all reason and other thought processes, which for many people it really does. Much of what you've said only reinforces this point... yet somehow, bizarrely, you seem to think I don't even have one. It's very peculiar. Whether someone can afford something or not, and what business that is of mine, isn't remotely relevant to anything I've said, it never has been. And you simply saying "people want things" is, well, obvious... because it's exactly what I originally said. Furthermore, I am speaking SPECIFICALLY to things which aren't a necessity, which I thought would also be obvious. If you honestly think there isn't an impact here though, you are quite wrong. What exactly do you think would happen if no one bought this monitor because they felt it was priced too high?

First off, that's not a point... it's fact. You'd die without food and water. Second, you're comparing things essential to life with material things? Lol, OK.

Mmmm... my point being that people have an overriding want for things, and your response is that "I want" is everything in life. Yeah, you've totally proved me wrong lol!

Lol, you're precisely proving my point.

I don't see anything future proof about 240Hz... not in lieu of other features which would impact you far sooner than a "limit" of 144Hz would anyway!

You are missing the point ENTIRELY... this has absolutely nothing to do with being able to afford something or not, nor does it have anything to do with the price of cars, mid-range, high-range etc. You are just far too entrenched in the 'I WANT' mindset to understand... you can't see the forest for the trees.

Well quite, we have many problems in the world, I wasn't suggesting someone buying a PC monitor was at the top of the list ?... I wasn't even saying an individual's decision to do that was a problem, just that it speaks to a far bigger issue.