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Tesla was a series of server grade compute cards long in use before Tesla motor company was ever around. It's like the Titan of the server grade graphics cards

for the love of god stop running the system under load when you see temps of 90+ and remount the block to ensure proper seating.
Make sure as well you took the protective tape off the bottom of the pump if its new, and or that the thermal paste isnt dried out if you didnt reapply the stock paste. That very much sounds like either a bad mount, bad pump, or bad paste. Since you crossed the pump off pretty well then move on to the other two.

this dude can type effing fast

So, did you read my post? Doesnt seem like you did...
I dont care about drama. I dont care what the guys maintaining the site do because they have 0 weight over the actual benchmark results, they only control the average arbitrary scores given for each category. i dont care what fake "ranking" they have. I showed how it can be used in a fairly accurate and useful way, and that they are clear and open in telling people that the score isnt an all round score. All it took was clicking a single link right next to the score that tells you exactly what the score means and how its determined.
 
I explained why their overall avg scores are what they are. Explained that you should use it to compare specific benchmark tests and results only, and that it only serves as a broad sweeping tool when examining specific components, against specific components, not just by looking at a bunch of completely arbitrary numbers and scores handed out for what best suits the median consumer.
 
This is a segment of the market online that is filled with sites that actively falsify benchmarks for brands, and suppress general information on testing methodology and benchmarks. UBM is by far and wide the least offensive of the bunch, and also by far and wide the most broadly accessible. I would rather they lose the global rankings and average scores all together, or at least include more than 8 cores into their "avg score" benchmark totals, instead of giving it its own category unrepresented on the global ranking page, but it is what it is, and they are upfront about it.
 
Until some tech reviewer with reliable benchmarks or a conglomeration of them compile all their results both current and historic into an online, user-friendly database, then this segment of the market isnt going to change, or get any more accurate than what UBM is offering.

I didnt say they couldnt do it, but that it would take a while. In our entire county we have like 3 bestbuys, 1 frys, and about 6 real walmarts. I highly doubt that frys could get a vendor price to compete that much lower than either of those chains, and frys has already burned out not just the hardcore, but the non-enthusiast crowd as well by being in its current state for coming on half a year at this point. When i hear jokes from the completely non-tech savvy clients at work about how frys is just a joke now, its really telling. Trust in the chain where I live, is gone entirely. Even if they swap and suddenly become competitive again it will take a long time to get back up to where they were at last year where I live.
 
I live in a fairly high population county as far as most are concerned, but basically everyone in the county has tried going to frys at least once because they were the only store like it in the entire county, and as far as not wanting to compete against walmart or bestbuy, frys has been competing directly against walmart, bestbuy, and places like lowes and homedepot for a long long time now. Transitioning to just compete alone against basically bestbuy is probably in their best interest at this point.
Wow... thats... really telling of how poor that lot is doing.
For a full size retail store lot to SELL for 18 grand is... crazy... Yeah that location is extremely dead at this point.

Because something is 4 years old doesn't make it obsolete, especially when you're working on a tight budget.
I still know plenty of people rocking 390s my man, and doing damn well in everything but the obscure korean games we play from time to time. And not even at 1080p, none of my group is even on 1080p anymore lol and they still manage quite fine at 1440p144hz. settings get turned down, and people just get used to not being able to get perfect 60fps in every game they play.
 
Not just anyone can drop $250-$300 on a single component in their system my dude.
 
Also, of the games people are actually playing the 580 does remarkably well at 1080p max settings.
Destiny 2 ~60-70fps
fortnite ~90fps
pubg ~60-70fps
BF4 ~50-60fps
witcher 3 ~60fps
Mobas it crushes, csgo it crushes, plainly speaking its still a perfectly capable card at 1080p60. And those are all at max settings, turn some heavy hitting options down and fps gets even better my dude.
 
edit, now that im honestly thinking about it, we live in a great time as far as budget gpus and cpus go. I've been building systems and pcs hardcore since about 2009, and I scant recall a time where 150$ could get you a card that freaking good, or 170$ could get a cpu capable of whipping competitors as much as a 3600, and they're both NEW not used! Sure the high end may be absolutely F****************CKED (thanks nvidia) and believe me I know that, the 2080 super is one of my most painful purchases to date, and I bought a fury on release :L at least this time I knew i was spending 80% more for 20% more performance, but all of that aside the budget end of things is going brilliantly, and we seriously have AMD to thank for that. if not for them wrecking nvidia and intel with prices and really freaking solid products, then the budget would be just like the high end market.

Misleading and exaggerating

The 580 8gb and the 1660 base go back and forth, but in general the 1660 does pull ahead iirc.
If they're about the same price I would end up going for a 1660 but only because of the marginally newer design and slight edge in most games.
 
a 4gb card in 2020 should at 1080p be "eh fine" for a card of that power, but if you're above 1080p60, or are playing a lot of the newer games then 6gbs or 8gbs would just be better for the headroom. There aren't a ton of games at 1080p60 that pull more than 4gbs of vram when they can, but there are still some that do.

Because something is 4 years old doesn't make it obsolete, especially when you're working on a tight budget.
I still know plenty of people rocking 390s my man, and doing damn well in everything but the obscure korean games we play from time to time. And not even at 1080p, none of my group is even on 1080p anymore lol and they still manage quite fine at 1440p144hz. settings get turned down, and people just get used to not being able to get perfect 60fps in every game they play.
 
Not just anyone can drop $250-$300 on a single component in their system my dude.
 
Also, of the games people are actually playing the 580 does remarkably well at 1080p max settings.
Destiny 2 ~60-70fps
fortnite ~90fps
pubg ~60-70fps
BF4 ~50-60fps
witcher 3 ~60fps
Mobas it crushes, csgo it crushes, plainly speaking its still a perfectly capable card at 1080p60. And those are all at max settings, turn some heavy hitting options down and fps gets even better my dude.
 
edit, now that im honestly thinking about it, we live in a great time as far as budget gpus and cpus go. I've been building systems and pcs hardcore since about 2009, and I scant recall a time where 150$ could get you a card that freaking good, or 170$ could get a cpu capable of whipping competitors as much as a 3600, and they're both NEW not used! Sure the high end may be absolutely F****************CKED (thanks nvidia) and believe me I know that, the 2080 super is one of my most painful purchases to date, and I bought a fury on release :L at least this time I knew i was spending 80% more for 20% more performance, but all of that aside the budget end of things is going brilliantly, and we seriously have AMD to thank for that. if not for them wrecking nvidia and intel with prices and really freaking solid products, then the budget would be just like the high end market.

Thanks nice find. I just ordered 2. Wish me luck!

yeah the 3950x is definitely a bit overkill for that situation. maybe if he was hosting game servers for cooperative games, and streaming them at the same time while playing them, then you might be able to make the argument, but then I'm sure the 3900x would do that just fine., especially considering I do exactly that with a 3700x and havent hit a single issue yet.
 
The price to performance is certainly a hard talking point about current Nvidia stuff... the 2080 super only provides around a 15-20% fps jump over a 5700xt but costs more than twice what they do, its just nuts. The 2080ti has a slightly better price/performance ratio than the 2080 super, but it still is just the best gaming card on the market, and if you're after that all max settings on triple A games at 1440p 144hz then theres no real way to get that other than the 2080ti right now with its nearly 18-23% over the 2080 super in many games.
 
And yeah, powersupply stuff is extremely confusing from time to time. brands like corsair, evga, and seasonic have made some of the best powersupplies on the market at time of release, and at the same time had on market some of the worst and most dangerous power supplies. Every brand has good and bad, and im myself only just now starting to come back around to liking corsair after having dealt with their shitty low-price headsets for years nearly half a decade ago. h1500i... i will never forget how many of those I broke and kept going back to... like an abusive relationship...

Not really the 3950X, but yes the 3900X. It's the best gaming CPU out of the Zen 2 lads, a bit faster than the 3700X AFAIK. 3950X isn't any faster at all, no games really scale with that many cores. 
 
OP, just get the 3900X, unless you do a lot of heavily multicore stuff outside of gaming, then the 3950X could be a good choice, but even then the 3900X is pretty damn powerful. 

On that list, would recommend getting a 2x16GB kit of RAM, easier on the IMC. Also:
The P2 is fine, but yes you can get a Corsair unit for a lot cheaper, anything TXM or higher is usually a stellar unit. Seasonic eeeh, most of their good stuff is on the higher end and more expensive than Corsair's, and the stuff competing on price has more drawbacks AFAIK. 

The p2 series is among some of the best psu my man. a little pricey, but still an excellent psu.
a 2080ti is fine, we dont know resolution he's gaming at, and if hes at high refresh 1440p is absolutely fine. if hes at 1080p, even a 2080 super is complete overkill.
For the cpu, I would say a 3900x is a bit overkill, you could very easily get away with a 3700x overclocked a little, their gaming performance is near identical and they are both adequate for streaming, but if you want to also render out videos for like compilations on youtube, then the higher core count 3900x and 3950x would be better indeed, the 3950x is still a bit over kill.
 
for note, i stream 1080p 60fps with high bitrate, record, and render videos on a 2080 super with a 3700x with no issues at all. I run all my games at high refresh 1440p as well, and mostly maxed settings setting except for snap shooters like destiny, RSS, and halo where I want every advantage available to me. to note also though, I usually dont cap out at 144fps for my monitor in most games, I'm fine with it running between 90-130 smoothly like it does for almost every game.
 
 

Wow... unironically that is the ugliest console I have seen in decades. It looks like a cheap chinese audio interface. Please tell me thats far from what it will actually will look like. like some kinda pre-pre-pre concept art fan render of what they think it will look like.
 
Oh god its based off the patent...
Edit- Thank god. Viewing the actual patent release (https://nl.letsgodigital.org/uploads/2019/08/sony-interactive-entertainment.pdf) this is the Dev kit confirmed. Would be nice to put that in the headlines and articles, instead of just saying its the ps5's "new sleek design" Lets just hope now that the console release looks nothing like this. 
 

Wow... unironically that is the ugliest console I have seen in decades. It looks like a cheap chinese audio interface. Please tell me thats far from what it will actually will look like. like some kinda pre-pre-pre concept art fan render of what they think it will look like.
 
Oh god its based off the patent...
Edit- Thank god. Viewing the actual patent release (https://nl.letsgodigital.org/uploads/2019/08/sony-interactive-entertainment.pdf) this is the Dev kit confirmed. Would be nice to put that in the headlines and articles, instead of just saying its the ps5's "new sleek design" Lets just hope now that the console release looks nothing like this. 
 

Wow... unironically that is the ugliest console I have seen in decades. It looks like a cheap chinese audio interface. Please tell me thats far from what it will actually will look like. like some kinda pre-pre-pre concept art fan render of what they think it will look like.
 
Oh god its based off the patent...
Edit- Thank god. Viewing the actual patent release (https://nl.letsgodigital.org/uploads/2019/08/sony-interactive-entertainment.pdf) this is the Dev kit confirmed. Would be nice to put that in the headlines and articles, instead of just saying its the ps5's "new sleek design" Lets just hope now that the console release looks nothing like this. 
 

Except... that is how it works in europe, and france's ruling cemented that in European law.
The ruling does not affect software. It affects the licensing key for it. Thats not just US law, that is blanket copyright theory. Software HAS to be controlled in this fashion or else it is entirely impossible to monetize without charitable donations. 1+1 is still 2 everywhere else, and software copyright and DRM is just a fact of how software and capitalism exist.

Well not just linus. There have been a number of community giveaways from other members over the years. usually its just stuff like games, but a couple times its been components too.
Linus just draws the big crowds because you know, he owns the damn place and has about oh... 9,740,000 x most of our audiences lol.

I dont really recall a time except during big releases and giveaways that the forum was ever super busy.
Activity seems to have dropped a bit in the last year or so. A lot of vets are also like, super super gone, or just log in once a week and stick to the vanguard threads, gun, anime, garage.
 
But activity even back when I joined wasnt insane. It was more active but not by that much.

Well not just linus. There have been a number of community giveaways from other members over the years. usually its just stuff like games, but a couple times its been components too.
Linus just draws the big crowds because you know, he owns the damn place and has about oh... 9,740,000 x most of our audiences lol.

Sapphire.
These are both reference design pcbs, but sapphires build quality and typically their customer support is better than MSI.

Happy gaming man, glad I could point out some stuff.

I dont really recall a time except during big releases and giveaways that the forum was ever super busy.
Activity seems to have dropped a bit in the last year or so. A lot of vets are also like, super super gone, or just log in once a week and stick to the vanguard threads, gun, anime, garage.
 
But activity even back when I joined wasnt insane. It was more active but not by that much.

You'll end up having to reinstall windows and all your programs when you start getting BSODs or failing windows updates or system hangs in a few months
Better to get it over with now.
 
lol

Yeah... about that...
"GIGABYTE Exclusive 8118 Gaming LAN" that might be to blame.