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I mean yeah, its gotta be either a bad cable, that somehow fixes itself without being moved, or dying controller that isn't throwing CRCs for some reason. Guess I should contact lian li to see about ordering a replacement backplane, I'm not entirely sure if the cables are removable or if the sata power/data cables are merged on the backplane though, probably figure that out first. Better that at least than throwing caution to the wind on a +900$ system overhaul that has the possibility of not fixing the problem though I guess. idk, maybe some grand sage who's experienced this exact kind of problem will appear with an easy solution though, lol.

Neither of the ssds are reporting anything unusual w/ cdinfo. Eventviewer is similarly useless. I'm fairly certain the issue isn't with the drives but with something else. Perhaps drivers corrupted in the background after a windows update, (happens all too often), But again the changing of sata ports I don't feel would alleviate a driver issue like that. Its just such a bizarre issue I've never encountered before. Sata1 is still dead, but sata3 is working now again, which makes no sense. I thought perhaps there was some cracked traces in the mb, and perhaps the heat I was dumping into my case running my 5900x/4090 at full tilt training some models was causing the cracks to close just enough for sata3 to start working again, but its been cooled down for a while now and its still fine.

Current rig is a 5900x non-x3d, it was previously a 3700x, but i updated bios and complete fresh reinstalled everything w/ the 5900x & 4090 upgrade. I mean, I haven't reinstalled windows since this issue has cropped up, it took me ages just to get 11 the way I wanted and get all my programs and repositories back up and running. Assuming though that because the issue went away after changing ports on the MB, that it isn't windows at least. Also, sata 3 decided at some point in the last couple hours to just start working again. Not at full read speed, but 480MB/s is close enough to 550MB/s that i'd say margin of error w/ windows

Aight so, here's the deal. About four weeks ago one of my two bulk SSDs, an 870qvo 2tb became straight up unusable. sub 1MB read speeds, but solid 550MB write speed. Troubleshooting it I switched which bay the two identical 870qvo ssds were in, (i.e. ssd1 to bay2, ssd2 to bay1) and the second 870 (ssd2) then became unusable, while the first 870 (ssd1) became completely normal again, 550 read/write. The sata cables are integrated into the backplane, I have no way to remove them, however reseating the connections on the motherboard did nothing. Reseating the ssds in the bays also did nothing. Restarting/updating windows & bios obviously did nothing. Removing the bays and backplane from the equation I changed the sata ports that the bays are connected to, from sata 1/2 to sata 3/4 and both drives began to function completely normally. Seemingly the issue was on sata1 Fast forward a few weeks, same issue has presented itself. sata3 is now completely dead on read speeds down to sub 5MB, while write speeds remain unaffected. Again, moving from sata 3/4 to 5/6 has solved the issue. Essentially, like, sanity check. This has got to be motherboard/cpu related, right? That seems to me to be what everything is pointing at. Even if its motherboard related, I don't exactly want to spend the money on a new x570, esp when 7kx3d is out, which means new board, cpu, and ram, which kinda sucks because the 5900x is still perfectly capable. System core specs 5900x 32gb hyperx 3200mhz x570 tuf gaming 4090 2x 2tb 870qvo 1x 1tb 970evo 1x 1tb sabret rocket supernova p5 1000w o11 dynamic xl

Drop the 120mm aio and get a good aircooler for the same price. Better performance, longer lasting, less maintenance. Something like the be Quiet shadow rock comes to mind, or an arctic freezer 50. Not as bling as an aio, but just better honestly.

for the love of god stop running the system under load when you see temps of 90+ and remount the block to ensure proper seating. Make sure as well you took the protective tape off the bottom of the pump if its new, and or that the thermal paste isnt dried out if you didnt reapply the stock paste. That very much sounds like either a bad mount, bad pump, or bad paste. Since you crossed the pump off pretty well then move on to the other two.

Anyone got strong opinions bout swapping a 64 falcon hardtop to a 289 with an early production c4? I mean, we're doing it anyway, and I'm pretty sure I know what I'm getting in to, but dont know if theres some kinda obscure thing I'm missing. the falcon has in it right now one of those dumpster 170s and a fordomatic 2 speed, and while it may run pretty damn well, its just far too anemic for highway driving, so sourced a good running 289 from a local restomod shop and we're gonna be dropping it in pretty soon. 302 and ls swaps were definitely considered, but my brother wants it to be period accurate to a couple years at most for the majority of the drivetrain.

Because for most people. it. is. Its almost like UBM has literally millions of data points to pull from... or something... and has literally no bias or obligation to try and push an agenda when they aren't promoted, sponsored, or paid by intel, nvidia, amd, or any of them. I dont like it, but thats what it comes down to

12% higher weighted average user benchmark on up to 8 cores for the threadripper 3% higher weighted oc benchmark scores on up to 8 cores on the 8350k value and sentiment is irrelevant. Nice to haves this time, because you're comparing a cpu with more than 8 cores shows up to 64 core performance, where the threadripper obviously takes off into orbit compared to an i3. And if you actually look into the benchmark scores you see that yes the i3 has marginally higher 1-4 core performance, but then the 8 core performance is handed back to the threadripper. Its all there,

Once again... I'm starting to sound like a broken record here. Their arbitrary "effective speed" and ranking is irrelevant. Look at the other actual categories. Average benchmark on the 9800x for 8 cores is higher. Average overclocked benchmark for 8 cores is higher. Value and sentiment is pointless, and nice to haves are also irrelevant.

No man, it isnt. Let's not push a narrative. https://www.userbenchmark.com/Faq/What-is-UBM-Effective-Speed/95 This is precisely the reasoning that they changed it further and "de-emphasized" ignore* massively multithreaded workloads. For most consumers, that doesnt matter. And again, I dont like that, and at the very least feel they should change the category and add another that would show complete multithreaded performance. What were you comparing? I'd like to see for myself, because in my own usage I've yet to find issue except with their seemingly completely arbitrary rankings.

How they weigh scores is literally a single link away, directly under the score. It actually could not be more upfront unless they wrote the entire article in each score box. They are showing accurate scores for their testing, they simply ignore anything over 8 cores in their avg score ranking, and are upfront and directly state that. They were getting hate from normal consumers who dont care if a 24c/48t xeon is massively faster for rendering, if its slower for browsing facebook and playing call of duty. Thats an extreme example, but just a reason why they changed. I dont like it, because it only devalues my experience, but I am able to understand why. I still want them to change it however. They weigh their tests on the benchmark performance, which measures single core, dual, 4 and 8 core performance. Thats it. Thats why xeons and threadripper cpus do not absolutely dominate the rankings. That is perfectly fine, because they clearly state so in the scoring methodology available DIRECTLY next to each score. Once again, I want them to change, and at the very least add in a column that shows complete cpu performance as opposed to ranking 8 core performance as "avg score". They should change "avg score" to "Daily-Use Score" and create a new column called something like "Workstation Score" in the global ranking that shows fully multi-threaded benchmark results. That way those of us interested can see those cpus more easily and how they stack up with user-benchmarks. We need to keep in mind that once again, they are not being deceptive. They clearly, and plainly state that the "avg score" ranking is NOT based on actual cpu performance, but what most consumers will experience with the CPU. They have to cater to a majority, and in the computer world enthusiasts who care about 128c/256t cpus are in the absolute minority. lmao, im not the fastest, and i re-wrote that many times over before posting. I just use computers a lot, and have for many years now. I know people who double my WPM and have less than a tenth of the probably 65,000 hours i have put in at a computer in the last 15 years.

So, did you read my post? Doesnt seem like you did... I dont care about drama. I dont care what the guys maintaining the site do because they have 0 weight over the actual benchmark results, they only control the average arbitrary scores given for each category. i dont care what fake "ranking" they have. I showed how it can be used in a fairly accurate and useful way, and that they are clear and open in telling people that the score isnt an all round score. All it took was clicking a single link right next to the score that tells you exactly what the score means and how its determined. I explained why their overall avg scores are what they are. Explained that you should use it to compare specific benchmark tests and results only, and that it only serves as a broad sweeping tool when examining specific components, against specific components, not just by looking at a bunch of completely arbitrary numbers and scores handed out for what best suits the median consumer. This is a segment of the market online that is filled with sites that actively falsify benchmarks for brands, and suppress general information on testing methodology and benchmarks. UBM is by far and wide the least offensive of the bunch, and also by far and wide the most broadly accessible. I would rather they lose the global rankings and average scores all together, or at least include more than 8 cores into their "avg score" benchmark totals, instead of giving it its own category unrepresented on the global ranking page, but it is what it is, and they are upfront about it. Until some tech reviewer with reliable benchmarks or a conglomeration of them compile all their results both current and historic into an online, user-friendly database, then this segment of the market isnt going to change, or get any more accurate than what UBM is offering.

Formatting tools are broken for me because I use vivaldi, so please dont mind the mess im bouta paste. "The UBM effective speed measures performance for typical consumers. For example, we de-emphasize deep queue depth data transfer and heavily multi-threaded CPU workloads as these metrics are not generally consumer orientated." The intel line of cpus is still technically faster in the single thread, and since the overwhelming majority of cpus tested on UBM are at stock speed, not overclocked, and many, many AMD systems are running sub-par ram speeds, it taints the scores even more. If you actually compare cpus like the 3700x to the 9700k you still will find that the 3700x dominates it in workload metrics even on UBM, and only loses marginally in gaming performance, as well it would. For example, actually comparing the "highest avg score" cpu, the 9900ks, and the 3900x, a cpu more than 200$ cheaper, still shows that in workload benchmarks and metrics the 3900x absolute dominates the much more expensive 9900ks https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i9-9900KS-vs-AMD-Ryzen-9-3900X/m929964vs4044 again, as well it should being a 12c/24t with only marginally lower single-core performance, compared to the 8c/16t hot garbage that the 9900ks is. If you want accurate down to the percentage for specific workloads, then you need to find good reviews on the individual processors or components. UBM is basically just to get a jist, but for the love of god, look at the detailed comparisons of components, not just the average scores. userbenchmark is a perfectly fine metric for examining particularly average workloads, not specific ones. I would never recommend using it to decide on a specific component upgrade, its not a guide, just a broad sweeping tool for system checking and general reassurance. Its perfectly fine for comparing in certain metrics, but once again as posted above if you want real detailed information then you need to retrieve more indepth reviews for each component and weigh them against each other. UBM isnt even remotely gpuboss, let's not put them in the same classification shall we?

Statistically their budget stuff is typically a bit less reliable. Personally I have only ever had awful experiences with their gpus across the board, high end and low end skews alike. Out of all the gigabyte cards i've owned which totals up to about 6 now, only 1 didnt fail within two years. I even had both r9 390s in a system fail within a week of each other, within the first year of ownership. Now, thats like insanely bad luck, but because of that personal experience I dont reccomend anyone buy a gigabyte card, as I've literally only ever had issues with everything gigabyte, even the aorus b450 i bought 3 months ago which the LAN on it started failing. not to mention that getting gigabyte to RMA stuff is like pulling teeth blindfolded and upside down, just like kingston/hyperx. A 2060 is more or less a card that will only last a couple years before it requires you to significantly turn down settings in games if you still game a lot, a 2070 would last longer and provide a bit more gpu acceleration for rendering videos and whatnot. If you're not really that into gaming anymore, than a 2060 is perfectly fine, the difference in rendering acceleration isnt huge, and if it saves money then it saves money you could put into other things as well like faster storage, or something else. I personally go with either evga for nvidia, or sapphire for amd depending on which card. I've only had a single evga card die on me, and they replaced it no questions asked, and i've never had a sapphire card die on me, or anyone I know.

Intel cpus usually only manage 3% higher fps. Its seriously not worth spending 150-200$ more for them, thats more just a purchase out of emotion than logic. I would highly, highly suggest a 3800x. If you do, make sure you purchase 3600mhz ram at the minimum to get the most out of the system. I would also suggest a b450, and back check w/e motherboard chosen against the forums tier list. Use the money saved to get a better gpu, which will net you far, FAR better fps gains than the 3% that intel offers. Intel just cannot compete in the budget market with AMD, and you're very comfortably in that zone. It makes no sense to spend 200$ more for a 3% fps gain, when you could otherwise spend that money and get a 10-20% increase with a 2070 or 2070 super. If you do go AMD, (theres no logical reason not to) then you can probably just keep the dark rock 4 if you find the adapter hardware from bequiet, it would be more than adequate to cool it, and save you even MORE money. If you have your heart set on going intel, even though there is almost no verifiable logical reason to, then at least I would suggest avoiding gigabyte gpus. No one, no matter their crimes deserve gigabyte gpus.

well if I only drove one thing a year then the break down would be... Driving my f150 its about 4650/yr usd driving normally driving my acura 4100/yr, but thats driving economically, which I rarely do. then finally about 1100/yr on my bike even if Im wringing it out. But I dont just drive one or the other exclusively, and trips like I take tend to skew things a LOT, like deciding to drive from LA to montana for a camping trip. My daily commute is about 54mi round trip, which i make 6 days a week, and I'll take my bike or car or truck depending on what needs to be done or how much of a hurry I'm in since that 27mi one way commute takes about 40-50m depending on traffic. 25-30 if I'm on the bike. So realistically I probably spend like 3300/yr between the three and going on road trips. Gas here is crazy expensive :L and we dont even get the good stuff either... Edit: wow i get shafted on gas prices, but also apparently drive a LOT more than other people, 16,800mi/year without taking into account road trips but also not taking into account the extra days off i get every once in a while right now, and also ignoring daily life things that have me running 60mi down into LA and back once or twice a week, or up to SB and back. I uhh, it would probably help if I rode my bike a lot more, I had no idea how much I was actually spending on gas till right about now an extra grand in my pocket at the end of the year would be really really nice.

I didnt say they couldnt do it, but that it would take a while. In our entire county we have like 3 bestbuys, 1 frys, and about 6 real walmarts. I highly doubt that frys could get a vendor price to compete that much lower than either of those chains, and frys has already burned out not just the hardcore, but the non-enthusiast crowd as well by being in its current state for coming on half a year at this point. When i hear jokes from the completely non-tech savvy clients at work about how frys is just a joke now, its really telling. Trust in the chain where I live, is gone entirely. Even if they swap and suddenly become competitive again it will take a long time to get back up to where they were at last year where I live. I live in a fairly high population county as far as most are concerned, but basically everyone in the county has tried going to frys at least once because they were the only store like it in the entire county, and as far as not wanting to compete against walmart or bestbuy, frys has been competing directly against walmart, bestbuy, and places like lowes and homedepot for a long long time now. Transitioning to just compete alone against basically bestbuy is probably in their best interest at this point. Wow... thats... really telling of how poor that lot is doing. For a full size retail store lot to SELL for 18 grand is... crazy... Yeah that location is extremely dead at this point.

I would be tempted to say it could have worked if they made the transition fast and painless and just skated on their reputation as being the nerdy techy place to get things, I could have seen that at least working for a while and keeping them alive longer, but if they are actually doing that then the transition has destroyed any kind of standing they had. for months now its been damn near impossible to get anything there, and in the rare occasion they do actually have what you need the stores feel soulless and empty, like you shouldnt be in there, that their already closed. Even if they magically get all of their "vendor issues" sorted out immediately and suddenly are all fully stocked again I dont see them recovering from this for a long, long time. They have damaged their public image far too much and their core repeat customers are too burned to come back. Also i just gotta say, I had no freaking idea that like all the other frys stores are themed and actually interesting to go to, or where at least at some point. The one here in oxnard is apparently themed as "agricultural history" and they did that by making everything bland, stale, and boring. I never even knew it was themed, i just thought it was a boring office environment, because thats what it seemed like.

Frys has been talking about this "vendor" issue as being resolved for months now, yet they get literally no more stock in ever than the tiny amount of what they have had for months. Back when I went in november to the Oxnard Frys an associate told me that their vendor had been changed, and they had just gotten a new one and shipments were just starting to come in, and things would get better in a few weeks. Fast forward 3 months and nothing has changed, they have even less than when I last bothered to try going there. Sucks real hard for me because they were the only place I could reliably get about any techy thing I needed for my business or personal projects for years now that wasnt a massive drive. The only competitor to them is bestbuy now, and the one across the freeway from the frys location is absolutely shite. I've intercepted people trying to break into my car there, they rarely have what I want, and the store itself is just dirty as hell. Nah, i gotta drive freaking 2 1/2 hours now down to the damn tustin microcenter through all of f*cking LA now for tech stuff if I want it same day. For those of you who know the pain of driving the 101 to the 405 or the 101 to the 5 through to orange, you know what I'm talking about. If you don't know what I'm talking about, then take my word for it and dont find out. Only thing that makes this at all bearable is I at least can get 1 day amazon deliveries most of the time, can't imagine what its like for people without that luxury. Now, I do have a bit of insider information, knowing people who know people, something source integrity something, but from what I hear they are looking to close down the stores where they don't actually own the lot for, and are then shifting to a completely different sales model. Seemed that this whole vendor thing is because they are looking to compete with amazon by offering a smaller selection of items that sell at much higher volumes to consumers at slightly better prices than before. instead of just stocking about everything and marking everything up to make profit. Which would mean they basically only stock macbooks, cheap prebuilts, chromebooks with very limited return periods, and that very normie kinda stuff. instead of trying to sell to the enthusiast crowd and the sheeple at the same time, they basically just want to sell to sheeple and become bestbuy2.0

I must have jumped realities or something because the op is completely different from what i remember reading, lmao. wait... no... "Posted yesterday at 04:36 AM" oh, that was drunk civ6 with friends night... yeah i was apparently only reading keywords like dns, cpu overload, and then making assumptions my bad lol. At the end i could have sworn I posted that I could understand how the app, being what it is and does could cause issues with particular users, carriers, and phone skews, but it appears I never got that far lol and only very poorly worded that. Really should just toggle off my forum connection when its drunk game nights lol. I cant speak directly about 1.1.1.1, because I have no need for it having a subscription to a vpn with a mobile app already, but from just a cursory search of a few places I can confirm that you're far from alone in having issues with it. quite a few people seem to report issues with latency, poor connection quality, and overall just very sluggish phone performance across the board.

1.1.1.1 warp is an app for android/apple developed by cloudflare for securing internet connections. I dont have any experience with it, but if it was the legitimate version from the google play store or apple app store, then I dont think it was anything malicious, it probably just doesnt mesh well with your device or carrier.

I cant speak to the gpu side of things, but I saw a yuuge increase going from my b450 to the current x570 I have, but only in my pcie to m.2 adapter, because i had an nvme running off 4x pcie and being throttled to half speed. The jump to a 4x pcie4 just about brought it up to where it would be on an actual m.2 I also need to admit that my setup is a bit reckless when it comes to storage. 7 drives total right now, two m.2, 5 sata, certainly and absolutely not something that every, or even many gamers would resort to. oh, none of which are raid, its all just various storage for videos, raws, edits, and a disgusting 260gb photoshop folder i organize by just creating more subfolders in.

Because something is 4 years old doesn't make it obsolete, especially when you're working on a tight budget. I still know plenty of people rocking 390s my man, and doing damn well in everything but the obscure korean games we play from time to time. And not even at 1080p, none of my group is even on 1080p anymore lol and they still manage quite fine at 1440p144hz. settings get turned down, and people just get used to not being able to get perfect 60fps in every game they play. Not just anyone can drop $250-$300 on a single component in their system my dude. Also, of the games people are actually playing the 580 does remarkably well at 1080p max settings. Destiny 2 ~60-70fps fortnite ~90fps pubg ~60-70fps BF4 ~50-60fps witcher 3 ~60fps Mobas it crushes, csgo it crushes, plainly speaking its still a perfectly capable card at 1080p60. And those are all at max settings, turn some heavy hitting options down and fps gets even better my dude. edit, now that im honestly thinking about it, we live in a great time as far as budget gpus and cpus go. I've been building systems and pcs hardcore since about 2009, and I scant recall a time where 150$ could get you a card that freaking good, or 170$ could get a cpu capable of whipping competitors as much as a 3600, and they're both NEW not used! Sure the high end may be absolutely F****************CKED (thanks nvidia) and believe me I know that, the 2080 super is one of my most painful purchases to date, and I bought a fury on release :L at least this time I knew i was spending 80% more for 20% more performance, but all of that aside the budget end of things is going brilliantly, and we seriously have AMD to thank for that. if not for them wrecking nvidia and intel with prices and really freaking solid products, then the budget would be just like the high end market.

The 580 8gb and the 1660 base go back and forth, but in general the 1660 does pull ahead iirc. If they're about the same price I would end up going for a 1660 but only because of the marginally newer design and slight edge in most games. a 4gb card in 2020 should at 1080p be "eh fine" for a card of that power, but if you're above 1080p60, or are playing a lot of the newer games then 6gbs or 8gbs would just be better for the headroom. There aren't a ton of games at 1080p60 that pull more than 4gbs of vram when they can, but there are still some that do.