thrasher_565

and some one can clean, replace the cooling on it... so your saying you have to look up the same card used in the same benchmark on the same hardware with the same software and hops that that video was used on a stock factory card... and hope silacon Lotty dose not off set the results... ok bud you win have a cookie

thats what i though. some one can clean it, remove mining bios.

that seem like alot more work... but i dont see how that shows its been mind on or not... if you had a pic gpuz show what bios it has maybe. or if the seller has like 60 gpus that could be a red flag but as far as i no there no way to tell if something been used hard, mind on, new vs used, and how long its been used for... other then like hdd/ssd.

whats the difrance form completed and sold?

how can some one prove its not been mind on? all it is is trust. so any one can say anything really...

thing to note is not all sold lisings are right like say 4090 selling for $4000... alot of them were" sold" then payer not pay for it... but its a good way to get an idea thow ebay has alot of bs stuff on it...also a 4090 can sell for say $1 and shipping can cost $3999 i dont no if sold listing include the total cost...

ya like i said the used market is an odd ball. i think its do to resellers not need the sell it right this mini so they will sit on it at a hier price. there are other things to consider then just say gaming profromace for a part like lower power consumption can also incress the price. things like low profile too. as to sell it modded or not i dont no i guess you could have the buyer have an option to have it stock or modded.

what i do is look on ebay. for the parts. gets you an idea of what there worth. if you sell on local used site might not get as much as what ebay listings are for. selling all will be less then each part just depends on the offer and what your time is worth and how long you want to sit on it. but also if there faster parts for cheaper then that also changes things unless your parts are collectors. some platform parts are too hi imo but it is what it is. other tings that can help is a good describing, pics, pics of it working, recets if you have em ,box's

ya some pcs do weird things when it come to the ports on the back and booting. my off line pc wont show the monitor tell it gets to the log in screen... i no gpus have a number one port and it prefers the port for booting. might be able to change it in the bios but i dont no. normally its and older port like hdmi. different oc also do different things... if the mb has on bord video that might be doing something too and can probly de disabled.

570 were heavy mind on and the drivers are a bit meh.

i got a broken d5 i got scammed off amazon... be interesting if i could fix it.

how is the even posable... almost seems ai... i beleave the fittings are probly uk. thrmaltake use em for a bit but that was way long ago...

the pwm and tac dont need to hook up. just the power and ground to the pot posable some fans might not sping with out a pwm maybe might work by grounding it?

well when all my 560 rads are hooked up it will kick the crap out of any cooeler or aio... and probly take like 3 hours to normalize in temp... i have a d15 for my 6600k and have a few thrmalright coolers witch is the best i dont no. i have a bequiet tf2, i have a crap thrmltake cooler for my am4 pc so between thows i dont no witch is the best because i cant use all of them on one system. ill have to see what mounts i have for to see if i can mount it to my new pc thow its delided so...and most likey all will thromlthrottle the tf2 is barley able to keep up withe the tr 140mm fan or gt the p12 it thrmalthrottles... probly because its at 1800 rpm well the gt is 2150 rpm. so see witch fan is the best ied have to drop the gt to 1800 rpm. or find an rpm that works with all fans. i dont have a way to test db other then my ear and the 140mm i think is better then the gt i think... but its also bigger.

dont no what test you want my hardware is completely different from your hardware... i cant compare an apple to an orange. if i had the same stuff you have same settings most likely there still be a difference because of silcaon lottery... i dont own any aios...

i dont no how to do it and gn didn't go in to details on how to do it also i dont have all the stuff to monitor temps. aio cooling varys do to plate material, fin size, water flow and how big the rad is and how fast the fans are. aslo how much water it has till its equalizes out. air coolers need the heat pipes to go drectly across the diy chips in order to cool it best and each cpu has a diffreny lay out. also some chips can be deisabled. some cores are better then other cores. were the temps are placed on the cpu also varys. say you have 3 cores ins a row. o,o,o and all 3 are working. well then the temps can vary depending on were the tmps is placed. say 0T0T0 the core in the midel will be hotter as it receives heat from 2 cores. say if one core is disabled. 0T0TX you now have a difrant heat sorce and the temps will also change. different cores boots hire then other cores some can do more load longer then others. so how many temps on the cpu, were the temps are, how each core proforams are all importend data also how the software reads that data.

this is why gn uses a heat plate to stimulate a consent load. the works for any cooler air cooled or aio and can be controlled.

amd self oc's based off temp lower temp the more it oc'c its self. thow you can probly disable it and manually oc i guess...

how aio cools down depends on how many rads or how big it is, and how much air gets pushed thow it. aios can keep things cooler in short test as it takes longer to normalise the temp. more water takes longer to heat up but also takes longer to cool down. that is why when you do test is not a 5 minit test as the aio will have an advatage thats why test are done atlest 30 mintes when compating aio vs air cooler. all in all it even its self out the pros and cons of both air cooler and aio. aio has expandable cooling well and air cooler all you can do is add a bigger faster fan.

ya we are vary slimier... i dont no what sites he use to be on long long LONG time ago i can ask him one day thow. i no he used fox as a name in games so guess something with that. he also was on bmw forms too till his bmd got damaged and was bought off of him so much for owning some cool for once... thats life i guess... my dad gos and buy a stick shift bmw for my sisters forst car. he gets a bmw and she gets a car good thinking dad she cryed when seeing it... hated driving it but she learned to drive it and then loved it.

ya liking quiet is nice thats what i thought too and why i spent moeny on a case's well my dad said it was a wast of moeny. thow hi did buy a $300 aluminum case back in the day. once we water cooled fans stayed at 800-1200 rpm. but they were set up when you game they ramped up and at idle the were quiet. you can see .the rad fan in the pic they gray ones were all the conetors together and the pwm and tac to the mb and power from psu.

but then if you dont care about nose the who cares what fan you use just buy the fastest, cheapest fan... the fastes fan is always going to win...

ok there are 2 people that "like" 3000+ fans you and freeagent...but everyone els dose not. your right people hear things differently. some people ware headphones when gaming some are old school and love having a server fan going as they got use to it back in the day. pc were louder back in the day. hdd made nose, cd drive made nose, the 70mm,8mm fan made nose, blower gpus made nose. but we have bigger fans these days that are quiet and still push lots of air. my dad had a thermaltake volcano 9 i think cpu cooler with a hi rpm 80mm fan and also had a metal 120mm fan that was on a toggle switch in front of his case for is athlon 64. i on the other hand had a copper thrmalright cooler for my p4 and i had a blue led 120mm that one led burnd out... back when the wires were raped aroud the fan with a pastic strap. that fan still worked when i build my x58 system the p4p800 was not my fist mb that was given to me at the time didnt no its value but its like one of the best ocing mb... and i sold it for $20 along with a radian x800...

i play mindcraft, diablo 2, and a few other game here and there... maybe crysis one day... its all for the fun of it. one pc is a windows 10 for games other one is surfing the net basically. i dont even oc... but i could ill be under ambient temp... might start freezing...