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Ouch those prices look horrible, especially with some rumors of new Nvidia gpus in June. I'm tempted to buy a 2070S too to replace my 970 (RIP), but even at US prices ($500 for 2070S here) I'm probably not going to do it when 3070 might be a lot better for $500 in four and a half months. If I had a working 970 it would be a no-brainer to wait. Too bad Cyberpunk got delayed too, might have been worthwhile to see if there was anything interesting done with RT in it.

Overall I would say no.  From what I have seen the performance hit is so drastic that even a 2080 ti can struggle to hit 60 fps at 1080p if you max it out.  The reason to buy the 2070 Super is because Nvidia has better drivers and compatibility though you have to pay $100 extra for that.  Myself, I think I would go for the 5700XT just because you can't beat its price vs performance right now.

I was blown away seeing Control needs something like 720p DLSS to 1080p to get above 60 fps in Control on RX high with a 2070 Super in the benchmark Gamegpu.ru did. Though the 2060 Super managed to just squeak by too above 60 fps at those settings in their benchmark.
 

 
God look at it without the DLSS
 

Good lord that’s horrible without dlss. I’ll wait til ray tracing has been out a few gens and hopefully we get decent price/performance from nvidia or I’ll be sticking with this rx5700 for a while which I’m ok with 

The current bugaboo in the AMD camp is the 5700 downclocking issue, which really seems more like people aren't willing to RMA bad cards. Navi cards seem like the point of failure is the power delivery system, so we get diatribes about drivers when it's really "you got the 2% chance for a bad card, so RMA it; if the next one doesn't work, it's your system".
 
So, that's why I noted the fresh install bit. Also, Navi is the first PCIe 4.0 generation cards and there's always been problems with new PCIe generations. The forward compatible nature of PCIe is great in theory but practice has always been bad.

Control's DLSS system, which isn't actually "DLSS" but a really advanced reconstruction technique, makes the really awesome visuals work. But it took a while to get there. Control is the standout DXR game right now, but it's all going to look really different here very soon.

For the next few years, Raytracing will be simply an extra lighting engine. It's once the products are fully shifted to tech with baseline RT ability we'll start to see the real power of the technology. This is because the Textures & Models will be designed differently, both to take advantage of the new techniques and to streamline the process. Base-line designed RT models should actually be a lot faster to produce because you need to do so much less texture work. Though it's probably about 4 years before we really start to see the "Next Gen" look on games.

Yeah well when you live on one of the most remote area's in the world there's bound to be some setbacks. it's all relative though? I'm earning pretty good money for over here and I'm thinking about upgrading because im finding my GPU is starting to feel a little sluggish in some games. funny how the price is nearly double though huh? $500 vs $1k lol not even considering the Waterblock haha.
 
Yeah I think I will tbh. seems like the best higher quality price to performance gpu out atm.
 
Also my Plan  
 I think there's always going to be a few hiccups when moving to a new generation design. At least they aren't locking things down though I guess? in my industry there's 2 brands and neither of them have any compatibility and both have hugely advantageous Features that the other doesn't have. no industry standards so they end up with their own incompatible designs. 
 
 
I'm looking forward to seeing how the industry shifts over the next few years. I get the funny feeling with the whole Sony, Xbox exclusives thing might really make PC gaming seem more appealing potentially? I mean things like Ray-tracing you might not get at all on the new consoles. who knows though, my crystal ball can't see that far into the future atm haha.
 

Just make sure you have a fresh install of Windows 10. There's some weird issues with older win10 installs and installing a 5700 series card. (It's probably PCIe drivers, as no one can seem to recreate the downclocking issue in isolation.)

Gen 1 in any tech is usually like the first pancake: looks horrible but still edible. Any subsequent releases will have better looks, performance etc. 
 
Why people are buying RTX is in the secret hopes that the somewhat useless RT cores could be switch to generic compute unit roles, thus boosting performance without much penalty. 
AMD has two strong points: 7nm and Infinity Fabric. And price, but seeing how Nvidia dropped 2060 prices in the wake of 5500XT, not a big sellingpoint imho. 

Heres hopes that "Big Navi" RDNA2 and RTX3000 series will be the refined performers of their respective fields. Q3-4 of 2020 will show, I hope (so I can upgrade my R9 390X)

Thanks for the Reply  
Yeah I did wonder that. yeah as much as hair works looks great in Witcher and rtx and DLSS sounds great. probably gonna go with AMD on this one then, $250nzd is a bit steep.
 
Thanks for that  
 
 

If Live and Steam worked together in one app. With the same games. All on the DirectX 12 platform. 
It would be great. 

I LAN at Least Once A Week so if this were tidied up aesthetically and had better I/O and was light I would highly consider this atm a ITX sized gaming rig looks more appealing compared to my phantom and quad and dual rad I have atm.
 
The Sad thing is the front looks fairly rugged like something the US would use on the battlefield but then the back and the internal chasis looks like a stripped down version of my mums HP its a shame I had high hopes this could be the answer.
 
 
I was hoping that linus would leave the DVD drive in just for that look. 

Shhh...

Come on, Ubisoft. 

New top looks a little nzxt phantomy

Remember: Vote with your Wallets!!!!
 
if they wanna play the "we don't care what you say and do what we want" game, then they can keep farcry 4 and all the other crap they try and sell us and we keep our money and get something more worth while of our time... simple.

I know dude! its sucks so bad I like the AC series and farcry. but I am not going to support a company that is pushing micro transactions AFTER selling you a $60 game and i'm not going to support a company that is willing to compromise my gaming experience for a few extra $$$ lining there wallets, I get that its a business but I don't like the idea of spending buckets of money buying a top end PC and paying $60 for a game and receiving a poorly coded port of a console game and getting the exact same experience as I would on a xbone or a ps4 its insulting.

Exactly, I'm not giving ubisoft money for this bullshit. I'll save that money for AC unity... Dammit, it still goes to Ubisoft .

Remember: Vote with your Wallets!!!!
 
if they wanna play the "we don't care what you say and do what we want" game, then they can keep farcry 4 and all the other crap they try and sell us and we keep our money and get something more worth while of our time... simple.

Chalk up another torrent to download.

I wouldn't even consider far cry series even worth buying for the multiplayer... but ubisoft needs to stop messing with the titles I want.

Nice plan
 
 
 
Ctrl+a...

Dark theme users, I feel your pain.

Ok.

 

so before you go and think what a waste hear me out.

I work as a shift Fitter and turner at a mill I have 4x12hr days at work and end up with 4 days off and a fair amount of disposable income that either goes into my Nissan Silva S15 (my latest car project) or random stuff or my PC so money is not an issue, I occasionally do video edit and stuff for family so utilizing a powerful CPU could potentially be possible at some stage.

 

OK now that's out of the way lets move on.

 

I'm Living in NZ so most things unless stated different will be in $NZD

 

So I LAN a lot but I love Water cooling and having a big case, big cases are not practical to go LANing with especially if you have a coupe and subs in the boot.

 

solution? two rigs! a smaller one for on the go and the Big boy that stays at home and never leaves... ever.

 

but I hate having 2 PC's with 2 different OS'es?

 

Soloution? a External Raidbox with Thunderbolt!

 

Shout out to the scientist's that made this technology possible



 

So here's what i'm thinking/planning-

 

Main Rig:

 

5930K 

X99-E WS+thunderbolt 2 card if not included or the Asrock Extreme 6 because im going with a blue/black theme with both PC's

Corsair Dominator platinum's 4x4GB's-2133mhz

Dual 980's in SLI

Silverstone 1000W Gold of some discription

looking at a 800D but might change my mind i'm still looking for around.

and also looking at some rigid tubing with mahems UV blue and all EKWB gear 

 

Secondry rig (Most will be re-used from my current rig)

 

3770K

GA-UD4-TH

GTX 770

Corsair HX620 620W

not sure of case yet. maybe h440 blue?

same W/C gear but with tube res and pump combo

 

and then I was hoping for a "Raid Box" and boot off that and use that as the OS and install drivers from both. this will mean all my data is in one area and software raid will mean SSD's are not going to be damaged as they could in Raid 0 because of software or hybrid raid, well that's my thinking anyway? as well as a mirrored drive for redundancy and a 2TB for movies music storage etc.

 

anyway any ideas and/or suggestions welcome