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  1. Just in case anyone else wants to see the video, this video shows the H105 as a front intake. The only problem is he doesn't talk about front intake vs top exhaust. He moves it to the front purely because he wants to do push-pull configuration and the front is the only place that could accomodate that (top area is obstructed by the motherboard). If anyone has any insight into pros/cons of front intake vs top exhaust, I'd appreciate it (both physically fit in the case).
  2. Thanks for all the responses, they are much appreciated. The cages are actually trays that can be removed and once removed you have lot of room in front. I saw in a video at one point with the H100i acting as a front intake the tubes didn't look straining or short, so I'm pretty sure it physically can fitted in that configuration. The question is, is it better or not? With this physically being able to be installed in either configuration (as a top exhaust or a front intake), what is the advantage of one over the other? My thinking is the front intake has the advantage of getting cooler air from outside and pushing that through the rad, where a top exhaust may be pushing warmer air (i.e. from the graphics card) through the rad and also the top panel hinders it's ability to exhaust the warmer air quickly. Having the top act as an intake, the rear as an exhaust and the front as intakes would cause some odd airflow would it not (i.e. this would cause the warm air to be pushed down and towards the back where it doesn't have an exhaust opportunity and towards the graphics card making it even hotter)?
  3. I've finally ordered my parts for my build. Most people that have the NZXT H440 case and the Corsair H100i are fitting the H100i as a top exhaust fan in pull or push configuration, leave the normal stock fans on the front as intake and leave the last stock fan as a rear exhaust. Instead I was thinking of configuring things slightly different and was wondering what people's thoughts are on this. I want to remove the two lower stock intake fans at the front and make these two exhaust fans at the top (the rear stock exhaust fan will be left as is). Then I will fit the H100i as a front intake and replace the H100i stock fans with 2x SP120 fans in a push configuration. So the rear exhaust is the case stock fan, the top has two of the case stock fans in exhaust, the front intake has 1 case stock fan as an intake and finally the front also has the H100i fitted with two SP120 fans as intakes (push configuration pulling the air through the radiator and into the case). I could in theory put in one of the H100i stock fans in the last spot at the top of the case as another exhaust fan if there is room but that may make the top intake fan useless. I was thinking of doing this like this as it may cool the H100i radiator a little better but still provide air to the graphics card. I was also thinking this may cool the radiator better as putting it at the top with low clearance from the top panel and lack of vents (where it would normally be exhausting) may hinder the radiators ability to cool down as it would hit the panel and not have much of a place to go. Any thoughts on this? Is this a bad idea? Is the top configuration better and if so, can anyone explain why? Normally I would just test this myself, but the parts aren't going to be arriving for a while so I figured I would get a conflab going in the mean time. Thanks!
  4. Thanks everyone, the Phanteks Enthoo Pro certainly looks like the inner guttings are in a similar layout. I caved and went for the h440 in the end after all, but appreciate you all letting me know alternatives.
  5. Looks like a thing of beauty, thanks for the info. Have you ever had any problems with AIOs? I hear horror stories of them leaking
  6. Dang, people are quick in responding on this forum! Appreciate the responses, think I'll just take the plunge and go for the H440 seeing as I love the inner guts of that thing. Appreciate all the responses, I know I'm being paranoid about the temperatures, but this is the first time I would have spent so much on a graphics card (GTX 970) so I'd rather not overheat that or the CPU on the account of not being an adequately vented case. Out of interest, could you tell me your cooling setup in your case? For instance are you using any AIO, watercooling options or is it pure air cooling (that's my plan in mine). Where are the various coolers located? I am pretty rubbish at deciding the best layout for cooling so any and all help is always appreciated. My plan is to leave the three stock intake fans at the front as they are, as the exhaust fan at the back. I am planning to put in a NH-D15 as the CPU cooler blowing the air directly towards the rear exhaust. I haven't completely decided yet if I will put exhaust fans at the top or not. My second idea was to use the H80i as the rear exhaust in push/pull configuration and leave the three stock intake fans at the front.
  7. Hello, Just like the topic says, does anyone know if there's very similar chassis designs to the h440 but with some more ventilation (or anywhere that I can purchase a h440 compatible front panel with more ventilation)? I love the design inside the case, the window and aesthetic look in general, but am slightly concerned with the ventilation when it comes to gaming. I understand why they have lack of grills (it's designed for being a quiet case), but I generally prefer a cooler system so I was wondering if there was a similar chassis (in terms of how the inside is handled) with grills on the front or top? Failing that, anywhere that sells custom panels of the front or top with a mesh grill for better ventilation (I understand this would be noisier and I would loose some of the foam that dampens out the sound)? I've never tried modding a case before myself, so I don;t think I have the confidence to get the Dremel out myself, so any advice would be great! Thanks in advance to any input you can offer!
  8. New question on airflow in this case. I've been looking at the NH-D14 and in all honesty, I'm impressed by what I'm reading on benchmarks. I even found a video where someone did a comparison between the H105 and NH-D14 in the exact case I'm looking at and the NH-D15 was really impressive. If I used the NH-D15 on the CPU, blowing the air towards the rear (where the stock fan exhausts the air), would it reduce the performance if I was to fit some additional exhaust fans in the top of the case (i.e. disturb the airflow as it has an exhaust to the rear and top or with the low clearance on the top of the case but no ventilation other than around the sides cause it to bounce back into the case)?
  9. Thanks for the input guys. Looking into the NH-D14 now and that thing seems to be more efficient than the H70 (surprised me), I just need to see a comparison against the H100i plus find some benchmarks on noise comparison.
  10. Thanks for the heads up. Think I'll have to see how bad these are and then see if they need to be swapped out. This is going to be a 6 or 7 feet away from me so I won;t notice noise completely, but at the same time the room echoes a little so it may end up driving me nuts.
  11. I have considered mounting it to the front as an intake (that way it doubles up as bringing more air into the case) and it still may be something I pursue. If the radiator leaks (as opposed to tubing elsewhere or the CPU block) then in theory the coolant will at least have less of a chance damaging other parts (again, in theory). I could then put the two 120mm fans it replaces as top exhaust vents, but that's something I'll have to play around with to find the best layout. I understand the reluctance of having water/liquid in the case, in all honesty I have been like that a long time and this is the first time I'm seriously considering introducing it. I hate fan noise and the liquid cooling option in theory means I can reduce it and in theory provide some better cooling (but it looks like CPU air cooling has changed a fair bit since I last looked at it). I've also been seriously looking into AIO because at first, I was looking at mAXT and even mITX cases, before I decided I had to go for an ATX to fit my new grahics card (GTX 970 cards are pretty damn big unfortunately). This was a way of introducing both CPU/case airflow. As I'm going back to an ATX size case, I may reconsider the AIO now I have more space but can you advise on the noise and how hot your CPU runs at with those two air CPU cooler suggestions you made? What kind of temperatures does your CPU run at when playing a game on Ultra settings for instance?
  12. Awesome, really good information and re-assuring to hear a confirmation on these points running a similar setup to what I intend to do I'll probably go with stock fans for now and then see how I get on. If they do prove noisy I'll then consider swapping them like you have. Hopefully the fans that come with the H100i are pressure optimised as they're shipping them with the rad of course. Interesting. Didn't consider the GPU position in that regard. I don't have any plans for other cards at the moment, so moving it up shouldn't be an issue. I think I started putting these lower (in my head anyway) as most cases I have been looking at have base fans so I was putting them there to get cooled better. This case doesn't have that, so I think it was just done out of habit in my picture. Appreciate you pointing that out for me, chances are I would have done that at build time too. As you say, like the front, the top ventilation is also restricted somewhat. I think I'll have to fit the motherboard and bits first before I can see if there's enough space for a push-pull configuration, as some cases place the motherboard a bit too high but certainly appreciate the advice. I've only ever done air cooled cases before so this is my first time using an AIO so a lot of this is a learning experience for me before I've even bought any parts
  13. Greetings! First off, apologies for the noob like post, but I'm afraid I've always been lazy when it comes to airflow/cooling and on my next build I want to try and do this correctly this time. I really like the NZXT H440 case and am strongly considering this as my next case, but wanted to get some advice on cooling the case (more specifically the air cooling side of things). The case comes with 4 fans (awesome) which I think are all airflow optimised as opposed to static pressure; there's three in the front acting as intakes (120mm) and one at the back as an exhaust (140mm) by default. Now on paper this sounds great, but this is a case optimised for low noise levels so the panels have few vents. The front panel where the three fans are acting as intakes, has ventilation down one side and the bottom only. My plan is to leave these three as intake, leave the rear fan as exhaust and then put in a Corsair H100i at the top acting as a pull exhaust. At the front intake, I plan to have this pretty open so the hard drive trays will be mostly removed. So here's my questions now I explained the layout somewhat Can anyone confirm if the default fans (I believe they're called "NZXT FN V2") are air flow optimised or static pressure optimised (I couldn't figure out which)? With the front intake ventilation restricted, should the front intakes be static pressure optimised fans so it can pull in air better? If I'm using fans with the H100i as pull type fans as opposed to push (makes it easier to clean dust build up), should those be static pressure fans too? Do you think with three intake fans at the front, an exhaust at the rear and the H100i acting as an exhaust at the top be sufficient to keep this case cool if it's running a GTX 970 when playing something like Skyrim on Ultra settings? Appreciate any input you may have on this. Thanks in advance! Here's a rough layout of how I intend to set things up: Red crosses indicate which trays are being removed This pictures shows the vents on the front panel. The black strip down the side is the vent (it's only on one side and along the bottom. The top and other side have no vents.)
  14. Thanks Tsuki, very informative (it was the right video) and it did answer my questions Looks like all I need to do is decide on a case now and I should be good to go on building!
  15. Cool, I better make sure to get a case with dust filters on the intakes too to help a bit further In terms of cooling the radiators (and therefore the CPU which is being cooled by the AIO), is there a big different between pull and push? My assumption is push has superior cooling, but is it only minimal when compared to pull? If I was to use a push/pull configuration, does that help reduce the build up of dust in the fins? (Sorry for the noob questions!)
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