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Pahddy

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    Pahddy reacted to Faa in FX-8350 for streaming?   
    Yep. Aslong it's not a 8350. It's just simple, most games usually have one main thread and a few trashthreads which rely on the mainthread, streaming loads every core with a bunch of crap and as we know AMD's single core performance being horrible that main thread's performance is extremely sensitive. Not much of a point having relatively good streaming performance when your game is running at 15 fps. Most massive multiplayer games 8350's run at 15 fps without streaming, add another good taxing fee and that would come down to 10 fps.

    Around 16:00 he starts showing the streaming results, look at how awful the minimum fps were getting that's what I meant. Looking at most encoding benchmarks on the net, I see the i5 doing nearly in all benchmarks better than the 8350 so totally no reason to get a 8350 for streaming. I wouldn't bother with what many AMD fanatics here are saying, take Fooshi for example, next day he'll be saying the same shit "no difference between AMD & Intel in Arma 3". This is the 5th time orsomething he's getting proven wrong. Not sure why you would trap in their lies though, I mean two QX9775's which are from 2008 on a dual socket board at 4.2GHz outperforms a 9590 meaning the singlethreaded performance is even much better on C2Q.
    About the i5 vs i7, well Hyperthreading usually adds a 30% boost, so yeah 30% more FPS theoretically, up to you if that's worth it or not.
     
    Your decision to buy a 8350 by thinking you get nearly the same performance for almost 100$ less being a personal preference is what I would call ignorant. You wouldnt even notice any performance degradation if 4 of your 8 cores died, that should tell you enough how really useless 8 cores are just for gaming only. For the same price you're getting almost up to twice as much fps in CPU limited titles so let's stop mything about it's price/performance. I bet our good friend at AMD Richard Huddy who's a PR leader orsomething yolo's a 5960x at home to test the full potential out of his GPU's. No wonder AMD is shipping Intel CPU's for their GPU reviews.
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    Pahddy reacted to Faceman in FX-8350 for streaming?   
    Tek Syndicate is wrong.
    Every other source on the internet has them as wrong.  They are the only ones claiming this.  They also claim an APU with GTX 780 outperforms an i7-4770k + 780.  Yea, they are real reputable.
     
    So, you want to recommend him that motherboard?  Will you also be writing him a check when his motherboard dies abruptly in the first day of use because its VRMs are no where near strong enough for an 8 core CPU?  You don't get it.  The Intel option is the better option and the less expensive option.
     
    @Pahddy
     
    Buy a new or used i5-3570k or i7-3770k.  Pair it with a Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO or better.  You will get worlds better performance in games and streaming.  This is not up for debate. It has been proven time and time again.
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    Pahddy reacted to Fate in FX-8350 for streaming?   
    Completely understandable, maybe I'll just stay away from these threads in the future, there's so many of them and it always ends up as a shitfest. 
    I need to learn that no matter what I say or no matter what benchmarks I provide, some people are still going to disagree without providing any evidence. 
     
    I'm done reading this thread, if you want to PM with concerns/questions you can, but I won't continue on with this one.
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    Pahddy reacted to Fate in FX-8350 for streaming?   
    Looks good, still has a warranty as well which is nice. 
    Reputable seller.
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    Pahddy reacted to Fate in FX-8350 for streaming?   
    deleted, disrespectful comment
     
    -Fate
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    Pahddy reacted to TheFalseHuman in FX-8350 for streaming?   
    I trust Linus's video series where he compared the FX 8350 vs 3570k more than that of Tek Syndicate's. Linus shows us his testing methodology, whereas Tek Syndicate doesn't.
     
    Part 1: 
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    Pahddy reacted to Faa in FX-8350 for streaming?   
    Start watching at 2:40

    Up to twice as much FPS especially in the beginning.
     
      Awhile ago you told me your friend had easily up to twice as much FPS in Arma 3.
     
      At 10 fps.
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    Pahddy reacted to Sotha Chill in FX-8350 for streaming?   
    Arma 3 is shit no matter what cpu you play it with. I have the 8350 and my friend has the i5 4690k and we both suffer with framerates. You just can't use Arma 3 as a comparison because of how badly optimized it is.
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    Pahddy reacted to Faceman in FX-8350 for streaming?   
    Upgrade to an i5 or i7.
     
    They both stream just fine, and they will play games much better than their FX counterparts.  You're already on the right platform, all you need to do is buy the right CPU.
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    Pahddy reacted to Fate in FX-8350 for streaming?   
    Then I suggest you try to get a 3770k, sure it'll be a little bit more expensive, but it blows the 8350 out of the water in gaming/rendering and you won't be held back in any games, like you will in some on the 8350 (Arma 3 is one of them). 
     
    @Fooshi I noticed 0 quality difference between Quick Sync and X264 at 10k and 20k bitrate.
    @Sotha Chill even a stock 3770 would be better than an overclocked 8350, and would be the same price by the time you factor in the CPU cooler you'll need to overclock.
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    Pahddy reacted to zinton in FX-8350 for streaming?   
    If its better or the same then go for the easy option (also prolly wouldn't have to re install OS for drivers). Also just realized that you are from Scotland so you would be harder pressed to sell your mobo/cpu in the uk vs usa
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    Pahddy reacted to Fate in FX-8350 for streaming?   
    @Fooshi, you say "without an alternative encoder" why not use Quick Sync? 
     
    @Pahddy
    Again I really don't recommend investing into an 8350 if you're mainly gaming and streaming since you already have a Z77 board.
    If you didn't have a Z77 board and you would be doing a lot of video editing as well, 8350 might be the better choice, but that's not your situation. 
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    Pahddy reacted to WaitForMeImOnDialUp in FX-8350 for streaming?   
    in battlefield 4 my fx8350 never goes over 60% usage with a overclocked 280x (slightly lower than a gtx770) . it averages around 40% usage but that is with mantle.
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    Pahddy reacted to Fate in FX-8350 for streaming?   
    Why go through all that trouble to downgrade?
     
     
    Yea it's supposed to be about the 770, we'll see. If it's $210 you may as well get a 290 though.
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    Pahddy reacted to Fate in FX-8350 for streaming?   
    8350 is horrible for Arma 3, that's one of the main games the 8350 fails at.
    You won't run into any bottlenecks with a 750ti, but you might with a 960, but then again you might not. I'm not sure how the 960 will perform.
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    Pahddy reacted to Fate in FX-8350 for streaming?   
    Games don't benefit from an i7 over an i5 most of the time if clockspeed is the same, so I doubt we'll be seeing i7 requirements any time soon.
     
    Anyways, if you got an i7, you'd likely never run into any limitations/bottlenecks in the near future. With the 8350 you'll be running into bottlenecks in many games with a ~970/290 or higher at 1080p. 
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    Pahddy reacted to Fate in FX-8350 for streaming?   
    Tek Syndicate is pretty FX biased from what I've seen, a 3570k streaming with quick sync would be better than an 8350 (and much cheaper).
    You could probably get a 3770k for the price of an 8350 + motherboard anyways.
    The only time I recommend an 8350 is when you're mainly video rendering, photo editing, things of that nature or if you already have a decent AM3+ motherboard, which you don't, you have a Z77. I highly recommend against going with an 8350 judging by your current setup.
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    Pahddy reacted to Sotha Chill in FX-8350 for streaming?   
    An 8350 is a good card for streaming games. It's either that or an i7, and if I were you, I'd just save the money and get the 8350.
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    Pahddy reacted to CoolaxGaming in FX-8350 for streaming?   
    Well there is a red vs blue war going on always. Everyone says Intel is better, but to qoute Linus - 
     
    "Different Applications work better in different cases, lets not fanboy out here".
    Intel is good, but if benchmarks say something... Yeah AMD is better in this application.
     
    Also Linus is putting up a guide about a AMD FX build and its uses. The video should be up tomorrow as he teased in todays video. Wait till ten and get his thoughts on it
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    Pahddy reacted to CoolaxGaming in FX-8350 for streaming?   
    Tek Syndicate is a pretty reputable fellow. One of the good ones, I would believe him
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    Pahddy reacted to Ryan Leech in i3 4150 vs FX-6300   
    If that's what you can afford, then go for it. I would recommend an Ivy Bridge i5 (i5-3xxx) if you can find one for a decent price.
    Something like these:
    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SR0RQ-Intel-Core-i5-3330-CPU-6M-Cache-3-0-GHz-5-GT-s-LGA1155-CM8063701134306-/111488055363?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19f534b843
    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Intel-Core-i5-3470-3-2-GHz-Quad-Core-BX80637I53470-/321608704719?pt=UK_Computing_CPUs_Processors&hash=item4ae15f62cf
    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Intel-Core-i5-3570-3-4-GHz-Quad-Core-Processor-/111538952272?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19f83d5850
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    Pahddy reacted to FireFox in i3 4150 vs FX-6300   
    Intel Core i5-2400S - Clockspeed is a little low but for £70 it isn't bad ----> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/INTEL-i5-2400S-QUAD-CORE-PC-CPU-SR00S-2-5GHZ-UP-TO-3-3GHz-SOCKET-LGA1155-/121514741556?pt=UK_Computing_CPUs_Processors&hash=item1c4ad7cf34
     
    Intel Core i5-2400 ----> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Intel-core-i5-2400-3-10-GHz-/321613855379?pt=UK_Computing_CPUs_Processors&hash=item4ae1adfa93
     
    Intel Core i5-2500K - Depends whether you want to OC and if you're willing to buy a chip that may have been OC'ed to death though remember to ask questions ---> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Intel-Core-i5-2500K-3-3-GHz-Quad-Core-BX80623I52500K-Processor-/221630137094?pt=UK_Computing_CPUs_Processors&hash=item339a2f8306
     
    Intel Core i5-3330S ----> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Intel-Core-i5-3330S-Processor-6M-Cache-up-to-3-20-GHz-SR0RR-/261650135802?pt=UK_Computing_Other_Computing_Networking&hash=item3ceb903afa
     
    If you're feeling adventureous
     
    Intel Core i7-2600K ----> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Intel-Core-i7-2600K-3-4-GHz-Quad-Core-BX80623I72600K-Processor-/251752364334?pt=UK_Computing_CPUs_Processors&hash=item3a9d9c392e
     
    I hope that will give you a rough idea on the prices though rememeber that I only scanned the pages quickly, you might want to spend a lot more time studying them to work out the best deal for yourself, hope it helps a little.
     
    Disclaimer - I don't know any of the eBayers above (can't remember if it is against the CoC), this is just to give the OP an idea.
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    Pahddy reacted to FireFox in i3 4150 vs FX-6300   
    Just go with Intel mate and save a few more bucks for a Core i5-2500K/3570K and retain your current motherboard.
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    Pahddy reacted to i_build_nanosuits in i3 4150 vs FX-6300   
    that is a better choice than both CPU's mentionned in the title in regards to gaming, yes.
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    Pahddy reacted to IMPERIUS in i3 4150 vs FX-6300   
    yes, exactly something like this. About the case- what do you think of the nzxt source 210 elite? 
    Edit: skip the case suggestion. the 200r is good
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