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Might be the first time Intel and AMD are working on the same size process. Intel has clearly been shifting their focus away from desktops over the last 5 years, while AMD has been working on a CPU to target high end desktop for the last 6 years and their efforts will finally materialize in less than a month. If you won't consider Ryzen, you lie and you don't care about money. We haven't seen third party benchmarks but a sub $500 underclocked Ryzen chip is outperforming a $1,100 Intel chip in AMD benchmarks. If you care about money, you have to take that type of thing into account. Maybe it was manipulated and real world performance won't match that, but there is also a possibility that it wasn't.

So a little over 6 years ago, Intel came out with Sandy Bridge. Sandy Bridge was a game changer. CPUs are very complex and it takes many years to come up with a completely new architecture and AMD is just finally launching its response to the new architecture end of Fenbruary and will be available beginning of March. So for the last 6 years, Intel was the only thing to recommend. A lot of people now have brand loyalty for Intel, not only because for the last 6 years they have been the only thing to buy, but that because if you bought a high end Intel CPU, you had no need to upgrade for 6 full years, which is damn impressive for enthusiasts. The problem is the reason why you have no need to upgrade was Intel hasn't really focused on improving performance on Sandy Bridge. In the last 6 years they haven't made any significant improvements and have been focusing on segmenting the market and making as much money as possible off of Sandy Bridge. Also, a main advantage Intel has had in the past is they're used smaller processes; but Intel has been stuck on 14nm and will be stuck on 14nm for at least 1 more generation after Kaby Lake, and AMD will also be on 14nm. AMD will most likely provide something better than Intel in less than a month, if you are building a PC soon, wait for it.

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yep, i totally agree. It seems like Nintendo is the only true console anymore. Sony and Microsoft are just PC wannabees with their consoles. Constantly trying to play catch up with the much more powerful, popular, and profitable PC GAMING is. But Nintendo knows its place and focuses on making a unique wholly Nintendo gaming experience.

i like both brands. They're both high quality. Yes, the mionix has slightly greater click latency, but also in my experience the buttons with higher click latency tend to last longer before double clicking starts happening. The g502 does have a superior sensor to the castor. Yes, they're both optical sensors and allow for a high degree of customization when it comes to DPI, but the sensor in the castor was never a high end sensor. The G502 is heavy and the mouse wheel likes to rattle if you flick hard though. The Castor though isn't really a light weight mouse, its an average weight mouse, so isn't the most appropriate if you're highly concerned with weight.
 
I guess one question is how much of a rush you are in to get one? Logitech just announced the  gPro, i got a free one. Its pretty nice. Or Final Mouse's Scream One would be another very light very good sensor mouse, but will probably be released even further down the road.
 
I would say if you use a high sensitivity and either want or don't mind a heavy mouse, the g502. If you want the best conventional fps mouse, wait for the gPro. If you don't want to wait and want a very good build quality mouse that isn't absurdly heavy and can handle low sensitivity FPS gaming, the Castor is a great choice, might even be my first choice in that scenario.
 
If you are mainly concerned with shape, well, no one can tell you which shape you're going to like or dislike...

So my new case arrived today and i'm trying to install my new noctua fans in it. I bought the NF--S12B redux -1200 fan. And i'm having a bit of trouble installing the fans. The screws are kind of odd. They're the metal screws and they don't taper at all but have like a wedge removed from the first third of the length of the screw. And the fan holes don't appear to be threaded either. Do i really just need to roughly jam it in there or is there a way to finesse them in?

500W is more than enough for a single GPU system. Also, there's a 600W SFX (and a 700W SFX-L coming soon ) if you're doubting me.

the best sensor spec wise is the 3366 sensor. Its Logitech exclusive. Its in the g502 and g303.

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generally, cloth mouspads are more popular then hard plastic mouspads and laser sensors perform poorly on cloth mouspads. The m65 and sensei have laser sensors that perform poorly on cloth mouspads. If a mouse has a max dpi of 8200, chances are its laser and will perform poorly on a cloth mouspad.
 
If you are committed to a hard mouspad, the sensei or m65 is fine . If you are getting a new mouspad, generally cloth is more desirable for several reasons. Cloth pads tend to be more control then hard plastic, hard plastic tends to warp, cloth pads are typically larger, cloth pads are typically easier on your hand and wrist, and cloth pads are easier to transport because they can easily roll up.
 
All the recent new fps mice have been optical for this reason. Recommendations would include the Mionix Avior 7000 (not 8200 which is laser) it has a great sensor, is slightly lighter then average, and great build quality. The Logitech g303 would be another good choice, which has great build quality, even lighter then the Avior, and probably the best lmb and rmb clicks of any mouse, the shape is unusual though and a lot of people dislike it. The Zowie ZA series would be another great choice, i'd guess the 11 or 12 for the average user would be appropriate as the 13 is very small, so unless you are into small mice (which lots of people are, nothing wrong with it). Great sensor and shape, and great rubber cable. The Scroll wheel is a little questionable though.The Roccat Kone Pure military would be another good light weight option, which is small and right handed, with a great scroll wheel, but has a fairly stiff braided cable.
 
If you want a heavier mouse, the Logitech g502 is probably the highest regarded but beware, despite a customizable weight system, there is no truly light weight option with it. Even with all weights removed, its a bit heavier then average. The Roccat Kone XTD Optical would be another great option.

all mechanical keyboards are louder then non mechanical keyboards. Mechanical keyboards are mechanical because mechanically the circuit is completed with a piece of metal hitting another piece of metal, which makes a noise. Its this crisp click of the mechanical completion of the circuit that many people like about mechanical keyboards.
 
The cool thing about keyboards is no keyboard is clearly better then the next. A monitor can be clearly better then another monitor, a cpu can be clearly better then another. But with keyboards the value of every feature is very subjective. So there is nothing wrong with you if you don't like cherry switches. Infact, i don't think they're that good. I think its a bit of a fad right now. They're overhyped and have drawbacks. Like their debounce time is way longer then topre, making them clearly inferior for gaming imo. But Topre is probably way out of your price range.
 
With all that said, give yourself the time to try to get used to it. You may end up enjoying them once you learn how to properly type on them.

The roccat kone pure military is my favorite right handed ergonomic mouse. It actually has a flat right side instead of a taper, so very easy to get a good grip for clawing. Very good 3310 sensor and great scroll wheel. At 90g not counting the cable, its one of the lightest mice with a high end modern sensor and most pro fps players typically prefer lighter mice. I've seen some critics say its too small, although i wear XL gloves and don't have a problem with the size. I imagine they prefer palm grip mice, which it is not. My main complaint with the mouse is the braided cables is a little stiff and a little short for where i have my tower in relation to my mouspad. If the cable was like 3 inches longer, i might still be using it. My favorite mouse, which i'm currently using is Logitech g303. It is right handed as it has no side buttons for left handed users, but the shape is essentially ambidextrous, so i assume you're not interested.

i have asked someone in the industry why there weren't any gamepads with mechanical switches in the past, and their response was that on consoles, many games require pressure sensitive, analog buttons and while that wasn't the case on pc there wasn't the market for it. That most consumers of gamepads are used to rubber domes, and aren't interested in mechanical switches.
 
It is really annoying though because there are a lot of games i want to play, but the rubber dome switches of my xbox 360 controller annoy me to no end.

If you use a cloth mouspad, you want a mouse with the 3988, 3310, or 3366 sensor. Technically the 3366 sensor is better then the others, but it is debatable what if any difference it would make to the average gamer. If you use a hard plastic mouspad, the 9800 would also be an acceptable sensor.
 
If you don't know what you want in terms of weight. Lighter mice are more responsive just like lighter cars are. Pros almost always prefer lighter than average mice.
 
As for brands. Logitech, Mionix, Zowie, and Roccat are my favorite to recommend.

g303, best sensor, great claw shape, best lmb and rmb. And if you don't like the shape, i'd just get like a Roccat Kone Pure Military. Or the new Zowie EC-A mice. The final mouse is just a cheap, oem shell.

the problem is you are talking about the advantages and disadvantages of low sensitivities but calling it low DPI.
 
You can set your in game sensitivity very low in CS or TF2 and have a DPI above 2,000 and still have to move your mouse a far distance to turn 360 degrees in game.

the problem is you are talking about the advantages and disadvantages of low sensitivities but calling it low DPI.
 
You can set your in game sensitivity very low in CS or TF2 and have a DPI above 2,000 and still have to move your mouse a far distance to turn 360 degrees in game.

the problem is you are talking about the advantages and disadvantages of low sensitivities but calling it low DPI.
 
You can set your in game sensitivity very low in CS or TF2 and have a DPI above 2,000 and still have to move your mouse a far distance to turn 360 degrees in game.

the problem is you are talking about the advantages and disadvantages of low sensitivities but calling it low DPI.
 
You can set your in game sensitivity very low in CS or TF2 and have a DPI above 2,000 and still have to move your mouse a far distance to turn 360 degrees in game.

the m45 uses the 3310 sensor which is generally considered one of the best sensors for fps, far better then the sensor in the m65.

the mionix avior 7000, the Roccat Kone Pure Military, The Zowie fk1 and fk2, and the Logitech g502, g402, or g302 (only g302 if you don't use a super low sensitivity). All have superb tracking.

First piece of advice no matter what you are looking for: HIGH MAX DPI IS MEANINGLESS
 
If you sensor is very important which probably is because you want it for fps, you want an optical sensor. The best optical sensors on the market right now are the 3366, 3310, and AM010. Most mice with a max dpi of 5,000 are using the 3310 sensor, in addition to the zowie fk1, fk2, and the Mionix 7,000 series. THe 3366 and AM010 are in the newest Logitech mice, the 3366 in the g502 and the AM010 in the g602, g100s, g402, and g302.
 
Don't get caught up in marketing gimmicks, you really shouldn't need more then 2 side buttons, super colorful lights should be your last concern.
 
Razer quality control and customer service are pretty poor, if you really want to do one of the two in the OP, go with the Roccat Tyon.
 
I personally tend to recommend Zowie, Mionix, Logitech, and Roccat.

First piece of advice no matter what you are looking for: HIGH MAX DPI IS MEANINGLESS
 
If you sensor is very important which probably is because you want it for fps, you want an optical sensor. The best optical sensors on the market right now are the 3366, 3310, and AM010. Most mice with a max dpi of 5,000 are using the 3310 sensor, in addition to the zowie fk1, fk2, and the Mionix 7,000 series. THe 3366 and AM010 are in the newest Logitech mice, the 3366 in the g502 and the AM010 in the g602, g100s, g402, and g302.
 
Don't get caught up in marketing gimmicks, you really shouldn't need more then 2 side buttons, super colorful lights should be your last concern.
 
Razer quality control and customer service are pretty poor, if you really want to do one of the two in the OP, go with the Roccat Tyon.
 
I personally tend to recommend Zowie, Mionix, Logitech, and Roccat.

lol, even if you don't know that high dpi is meaningless, a good sign that it isn't a good pc gaming mouse is that their icon for it being good at gaming is a gamepad! If when you think pc gaming you think gamepads, you probably aren't making very good gaming mice....

Too bad that most of the Information from "Experts" is plainly wrong(i hope there is no forum police that bans me , altough the cpi video is quite correct), i dont judge you for that because common misconceptions are everywhere, but you could have done your homework better, also wtf is a "faster tracking", this doesnt exist, CPI = Sensitivity, François Morier publicly explained why high CPI is going against performance, also there are much more important values to tracking than CPI.
 
You are also missing a whole line of sensors, the Philips Twin Eye, which are using doppler interference to detect movement, also these are the ones when somebody says that "Laser" sensors have lower power consumption, but this doesnt translate
towards optical systems in which the actual architecture and features determines how big the power consumption is, e.g. 3310 is the LED lit variant of the A9800(they use the same DSP and share some other stuff) and both have the same power consumption.
 
"Newer is better" also doesnt apply to sensors, every new method that came out was "flawed" in a way for quite a while, optical sensors had a low malfunction speed when they came out(2000fps agilent sensors) and people still used their ball mice for that reason, same goes for early Laser lit sensors(A6010/6018), ONS I and PTE shared this as well. But here is the catch, while LED lit sensors for the most part have gotten straight up upgrades(A3060-->3080-->3090), the Laser lit ones have gotten a new architecture(A9500), which fixes the malfunction speed but exhibits a higher variance than the optical gaming systems, CPI in optical systems are never stable and that is called (speed related)variance, and is on the A9500 big enough that the User can actually feel, or see, what in the end is mouse acceleration. With A3090 6x SROM we also got smoothing for the first time (which ofc creates some delay as every kind of smoothing does) to counter the jitter high CPI are causing in current optical navigation systems, smoothing was then later on implemented in the "improved" version of A9500, the A9800. When it comes to Variance Twin Eye is the undisputed King with a Variance of under 0.1%, but because of the way it works, it also tracks on the Z-Axis, commonly referred to as "Z-Axis Bug", to counter that they implemented in the PLN2033 an algorithm which lowers the cpi to a minimum when the mouse is moved slowly or not at all, previous Versions didnt have this and with the latest one ,2034, it is actually toggleable.
 
Current trend is actually going away from Laser lit sensors, and focus more on the actual characteristics of the tracking, best example are the PMW3310 and S3988, which are practically the A9800 sensor "retrofitted" with LED illumination, note that high Variance isnt a trademark of Laser illumination but of the A9500/9800 platform, and simply the endproduct of them in combination with Laserillumination.
 
Also many people feel the difference between different sensors, and not only with different illumination methods, and it is frankly not "negligible", and since you are doing a guideline you should give the recommendations for the best performance, especially when it comes to something affordable like mice, also the difference between 5000 and 1000hz is not only feelable but also observable, since it directly influences the cursorpath.
 
About Surface compatibility, it depends on the sensormodel in use, A9500 for example cannot track on glass.
 
Last but not least, sensormodel alone doesnt dictate Performance, best example would be Perixx MX-1800b, which is using A3090 and hass an insanely low malfunction speed because of firmware and bad LED´s.
 
And there are is a lot more when it comes to mice.
 
I might have been "bashful" at some points but in the end i just want to help and clear up misconceptions, i also suggest reading up a bit on OCN.
 
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Also check out the mouse suggestion thread on OCN, i made something similar on a german forum and it works a lot better than having 5000 threads which are full of "i has mouz xy, iz bezt mouze".