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do we have benchmarks yet? if not too early to say.

Gamers Nexus recently did benchmarks with a 2600k conservatively overclocked to 4.7Ghz and it outperformed every I5 in every benchmark. When games are taking advantage of extra threads well enough for that to be the case, can we really continue to recommend I5s? Shouldn't we just recommend buying like the newest I7 you can afford?

IDK, you can't really take 1 benchmark and say the H100i is better. It might be better, i don't know. It is weird, for the H100i it has 3 different settings. A quiet mode, a performance mode, and a performance mode with 4 fans. What mode is every other AIO on? That benchmark does show the x61, so its a generation older, pretty sure i've read the x62 is quieter at heavier loads than the x61. And really how loud the cooler gets is going to determine how high you run it and is going to be the largest factor in just how effective its going to be, so that imo that is a big deal. One thing i like about the Kraken is it has a 6 year warranty. I got a x52 kraken earlier this month. Pretty significant improvement in terms of cooling. The thing i dislike most about the switch to AIO is the software. Maybe newer and higher end motherboards don't require it, but i have a 6 year old motherboard and i need third party software always running in the background and that software was buggy as hell and made overclocking a major pain in the ass.

if she asks you what you think is wrong with it, make sure to suggest that a virus will slow down the computer

I think my next case is going to be mini itx, and i'm currently thinking about upgrading my videocard and I want one that will run well in a mini itx case. Beside avoiding excessively large ones, i have heard you want rear exhaust. Is rear exhaust really important? And are there better options for a rear exhaust card than the founders edition?

I'm trying to find different options for like 27" or larger 1440p monitors with at least 120hz refresh rate. And like, every monitor website is hell to look through. In the specifications page, it often doesn't mention the refresh rate. You don't know the resolution until looking at the spec page... And like before doing any searching it makes you select a category of monitors. Bitch, i don't care if you call that monitor a work monitor or a professional monitor or a gaming monitor.

Two main questions. I'm currently using a 27" and is a 34" the same height, or would i need to get even bigger, something like a 38" ultrawide? Also, how well do game developers support Ultrawides?

motherboard header so like, now that i am done configuring the krakken fans and pump, can i just like uninstall CAM and have it will keep running like this or do i have to like boot up CAM every single time i boot to keep these settings?

I don't think so. My board and cpu is over 6 years old now and elitegroup just does super low end boards now.

So i got a Krakken today. Downloaded CAM. It doesn't recognize that i have a Krakken. I reboot, and it does. So then i start changing settings in my bios to overclock, and start stress testing, and it crashes, and when i boot back into windows, Cam doesn't recognize that i have krakken. Then i reboot and it recognizes i have krakken, but my saved settings are gone. And this has happened 3 times over, crash, reboot twice, then have to redo the settings.Frustrating as fuck.

Anyone know how to determine the direction the fans blow? No arrow on the sides unfortunately

its really simple. Over the last like 10 years, CPU progression has meant increasing threads and increasing single core performance. Ryzen is important in that its bringing 16 threads with 8 very decent cores at a very affordable $330. The debate is whether the 8 cores are good enough, and the answer is different for different people. But I would argue that if the improvement with number of threads isn't good enough to get you to upgrade to the 1700 over a past i7, the improvement in individual core performance isn't good enough to justify you upgrading to a newer i7. If you have an i7 i think it is just a waiting game of how long until Intel or AMD makes an 8 core 16 threaded cpu with individual cores good enough for you to justify upgrading to it. The 1700 isn't quite there for me, but its close, If i wasn't a fan of old school shooters where 200+ frames per second is kind of expected, it would probably be enough. i think in the next 1-3 years Intel or AMD will get me to upgrade to a 16 threaded cpu.

Title pretty much says it all. This is my first AIO installation. Any tips ?

I guess microcenter normally sells CPUs for a loss, to get you into the store. There was a rumor that Intel dropped their prices in response to Ryzen because people saw how low their prices were at microcenter.

ah, ok, I was confusing LLC with ICC. Looking at my notes, I don't think I have anything labled LLC or Load Line Calibration in my bios, as i copied down almost everything in there onto a notebook. my mobo is ecs p67h2-a2. i tried the ROG Realbench, had a max temp of 73. It was really weird, my max vcore was 1.260 for awhile, but then right around when it ended it spiked to 1.308

So i'm using Linx to stress test. When the problem size was 10000, it was stable at 4.5ghz. I set the problem size to 20000, because 10000 was finishing in like 4 minutes, and 4.5Ghz crashes at 20000, but 4.4Ghz seems perfectly stable with the 26 minute long stress test, max temp on my current cooler is 76C. Yeah, so far all my overclocking is through the multiplier. Specifically through turbo mode. For whatever reason my motherboard won't let me overclock the base frequency. Is there an indication when you should be overclocking your LLC? Also any thoughts on the max safe temp and vcore for the 2600k? I was thinking 80C and 1.36V

Hey, right now I have a rather mild overclock of my 2600k to 4.4Ghz, but have an AIO arriving in a couple days and plan to go a bit further. I have noticed that HWMonitor shows a much higher voltage in VID than what I have set in vcore, and I was just wondering if i should be worried about it? Currently my vcore is showing as about 1.260 when under load, and VID is 1.391

meh, its meeting the expectation of being a competitor to the 6900k at half the price and being a viable choice for gaming already, which is impressive considering how little software optimization there has likely been for it. But yeah, I don't think its going to beat Intel's most current cpus at IPC, but i think most people thought that was likely. What i wouldn't be suprised about is if when AMD releases their r3, the highest end version has its turbo made clocked high enough to beat an 7700k in single core performance if both are stock, but then is a horrible overclocker, while if someone overclocks the 7700k it destroys the amd counterpart.

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oh great, random internet guy claiming he knows something he probably doesn't. Numerous youtubers have said that their talks with the motherboard makers have indicated that they had only 3 weeks to work on the bios before launch. So either they are making a claim any CS major knows is full of shit or you're full of shit. Because you're just some random internet stranger, I'm pretty sure the latter is more likely.

i'm not; i'm showing you how your logic is flawed, by showing you an example where it is obviously flawed. So your logic isn't sound so you can't reach the original conclusion through it.

yeah, and these youtubers that are saying they only had a couple days to review it are liars, they had years. There is only so much you can do as a reviewer or a motherboard manufacturer before the product is finalized.

i mean, realistically, we should probably be expecting Ryzen to be pretty damn close to broadwell-e in IPC. Keep in mind motherboard manufacturers had 3 weeks to make a Bios for Ryzen. And this is a completely new archetecture that software needs to be optimized for.

For now, the 7700k is better for gaming. This is bringing 8 cores, 16 threads to the mainstream, but games struggle taking advantage of more than 1 thread, let alone the 8 threads in a 7700k. I think the best way to view the R7 Ryzen chips is as competitors to Intel's Broadwell-E. I think in Q2 the R5 and R3 might be able to make more compelling gaming CPUs.

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