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  1. the problem is you are talking about the advantages and disadvantages of low sensitivities but calling it low DPI. You can set your in game sensitivity very low in CS or TF2 and have a DPI above 2,000 and still have to move your mouse a far distance to turn 360 degrees in game.
  2. Price is no option: Best tracking light mouse: Logitech g303 Best tracking heavy mouse: Logitech g502 Best shit ton of button mouse: Razer Naga 2013/2014 Best awesome scroll wheel, awesome tracking: Roccat kone pure military
  3. You can definitely enjoy the high end peripherals, but i think competitively, you just want decent headphones, ATH-AD700x's is probably the best cheapish headphones, about $115. A decent cheap mouse with minimal speed related variance and no smoothing played at a DPI no higher then 1800, the Logitech g100s, a $20 mouse, would be a good cheap option. A 120hz monitor (only needed if hardcore into FPS). Then with keyboards, competitively, probably not much of a need. The most popular are mechanical which if anything are a competitive disadvantage because of their debounce time. If you were super hardcore, you'd probably want to spend like $200 on a capacitive switch keyboard. Otherwise, a cheap membrane is probably fine. But yeah, high DPI is worthless marketing bullshit. Most pros use 400-1000 DPI. I don't know anything about your current mouse, you might benefit from a mouse with a better sensor, but by no means just think higher DPI is good. Cherry switches are poor for competitive gaming, they are just a fad with people obsessed with the clicking sound they create. Good headphones are great for hearing your surroundings and knowing where sounds are coming from, but you just want solid stereo headphones, none of that surround sound crap and shouldn't need to spend more then $150 unless you want audiophile grade headphones to make it more enjoyable as well.
  4. my top 3 recommendations would be: Logitech 303 Zowie FK1 Roccat Kone Pure Military The Logitech g303 has the best modern sensor, light and short mouse clicks, flexible and durable cable, RGB lights, but the shape is kind of love it or hate it, its shorter then most mice, with a wide waist and a narrow butt. The Zowie FK1 more resembles the sensei shape then the FK2 imo (FK2 is just a smaller FK1), great sensor, mouse clicks a little stiff, probably the most preferred mouse cable on the market. The Roccat Kone Pure Military has a great sensor as well, it has an appealing shape, ergonomic right, but with a vertical side on the right side of the mouse, to give you ring and possibly pinky a flat surface to grip, which mouse ergonomic mice don't have. Its does have the worst cable of the bunch, its a stiff braided cable that is even a little shorter then the others as well.
  5. there isn't anything optical mice or laser mice are able to do that the other isn't able to. However the best modern implementations of the laser sensor, the 9500 and 9800 are inferior to the best modern implementations of LED aka optical sensors, the 3310 and 3366. It isn't which technology is better, its well, pixart which has a monopoly on sensors decided to make the best enthusiast grade sensors at the moment LED based and just rely on the futuristic image lasers has with the general population to push those units.
  6. the rumors before i received my s3988 in December were that SROM update reduced the smoothing, i used the most up to date razer software, and it felt like garbage in December. I'll try to find the mouse and test it again although i don't remember where i put it, i have to reorganize my storage and this next week at work is going to be super busy.
  7. g303 is all i am looking for in a mouse, pre ordered 2. Would of pre ordered more, but i spent $1,000 recently, don't have enough disposable cash at the moment.
  8. g502, best sensor bar none, performs excellently.
  9. the king of sensors is the 3366 in the Logitech g502 and Logitech g303. The Logitech g303 is probably the best fps mouse ever made if you like smaller mice. light claw grip mouse with best in industry sensor, flexible and durable cable, best in industry lmb and rmb clicks, very stable polling, onboard memory, surface calibration software, and RGB lighting. No smoothing, acceleration, filtering, pixel rounding, or pixel doubling. But it was just announced last week and may take a week or two to be available in your area. The g502 is fairly heavy and more of a palm grip mouse, with the same amazing sensor and doesn't have RGB lighting, or as awesome lmb and rmb clicks and just a blue LED. Outside of Logitech, i'd recommend getting a mouse with the 3310 sensor, which is probably the next best thing. Mionix's 7000 series(please don't get the 8200), Zowie's FK1, FK2, EC-A, Steelseries Rival, Roccat Kone Pure Military and probably many more use the 3310 sensor. Razer spends most of their money on marketing and skimps on their products, the S3988 sensor in the 4g DA and the chroma is the worst sensor i've tried in the last 2 years.
  10. razer is the best peripheral company with marketing. They spend so much money on marketing, they have to make up for it by cutting costs on the products.
  11. there is hardware based mouse acceleration and software based mouse acceleration. hardware based mouse acceleration is bad because its the sensor struggling to accurately track your movement and is unpredictable. Software based mouse acceleration is consistent, and can give you the benefit of the accuracy of low sensitivity with the ease of turning like high sensitivities. However, software based mouse acceleration is hard to get used to and is only for the really hardcore, and if you want to try it, you would be better off using third party software that lets you customize the acceleration curve, not just flip an acceleration switch on.
  12. Logitech filed a trademark for it http://www.trademarkia.com/g303-daedalus-apex-86529849.html a shop has it on sale with no picture http://www.hppenterprises.com/computers/input-devices/mice/g303-daedalus-apex-gmg-mse/ among the info on the site is 12,000 max DPI and RGB lighting. Granted, take it with a grain of salt, the site might not be accurate. But 12,000 max DPI is exciting because its the same max DPI as the g502, meaning it might be the 2nd ever mouse with that sensor, which is the highest regarded sensor on the market. And it appears to have RGB lighting which i know a lot of people prefer. Finally the name itself, the g303 seems like its probably a similar size and weight to the g302, so it should be much lighter weight then the g502, so a light weight mouse with the best sensor on the market and rgb lighting potentially. Very exciting!
  13. Assuming you have windows mouse sensitivity set to the default 6, i would say there are 3 possible problems. The first is what Kachel94 mentions, with the receiver being too far away. A 2nd is you set the DPI too high, causing jitter, halving your DPI should fix this. The 3rd is the mouse is having trouble tracking on the surface you are using and if you used another surface, it would track accurately.
  14. 6 gives 1:1 movement, neither higher nor lower will give you acceleration. But they simulate higher or lower sensitivities inaccurately. 6 is the best. Enhance Point Precision is what gives you acceleration.
  15. the mionix avior 7000, the Roccat Kone Pure Military, The Zowie fk1 and fk2, and the Logitech g502, g402, or g302 (only g302 if you don't use a super low sensitivity). All have superb tracking.
  16. uses the 3310 sensor, which is a very good sensor, not renowned as a great implementation of that sensor. Not the best reputation for build quality either. So kind of in the same boat as the m45 in terms of tracking reputation. kind of in the same boat as the zowie fk1 and fk2 with build quality reputation. It is a good mouse. Pick what is comfortable and with a decent sensor. The question shouldn't be whose implementation of the 3310 sensor is best, or who has a slightly better reputation for build quality. The questions should imo, which mouse is ergonomically right for me that also has a great sensor and good customer service if something goes wrong. And then i would say the Rival and the m45 both have great sensors. I can't vouch for SS or Corsair's customer service though.
  17. corsair seems to have a solid reputation for build quality doesn't have the best reputation for tracking. Sensor isn't the only factor in tracking. However the 3310 is a very good sensor and the m45 is using it, so i wouldn't call it a bad choice. I would say that if any of the following are appealing ergonomically, they have solid reputations in both build quality and and tracking, the mionix avior 7000, mionix naos 7000 (don't get the 8200), the Roccat Kone Pure Military, the Logitech g502, g402, or g302 (only g302 if you don't use a super low sensitivity). Then the Zowie fk1 and fk2 have very solid reputation for tracking, and not a bad reputation for build quality, but not as good as corsair or the previous mice i mentioned for build quality.
  18. the m45 uses the 3310 sensor which is generally considered one of the best sensors for fps, far better then the sensor in the m65.
  19. just to expand on this a little because i saw this thread last minute before i had to leave. Also, i am not an expert at acceleration, so take it with a grain of salt. If you are looking to improve your aim, and have heard about some pro's using an acceleration curve, an acceleration curve isn't for you. Acceleration curves make aiming much more difficult. What Acceleration curves do is they give you the precision of very low sensitivities when you're moving your mouse slowly combined with the ability to make very quick turns. So you can aim with a sensitivity of like 20 inches per 360 and turn 180 faster then you possibly could with 20 inch per 360 sensitivity. finally, some advice if you want to try it. You can set the max sensitivity to your current sensitivity, then you already have your flick shot muscle memory set. To find out what speeds you move your mouse to do a flick shot, set your sensitivity super low and then have it set super high at a specific speed, then flick your mouse, if it barely moves it did not reach the speed where the sensitivity changes to very high. Once you find the approx speed you flick the mouse, you should set the acceleration curve so that it reaches the max sensitivity before that speed. Also, the shallower the acceleration, the easier it will probably be to adjust to it. so as an example, this is the acceleration curve i'm using the sensitivity i was using before acceleration was too low to set as the max, so i made the max sensitivity something like 1.125 times what my sensitivity used to be, then at the lowest sensitivity its .65 what it used to be, sensitivity cap is 1.73 because 1.73 times .65 gets you about 1.125. Finally, the Acceleration is set at 0.025 because at that acceleration, i reach the max sensitivity just before 30.0 mouse movements in a single update, which is approximately the slowest i move my mouse to do a flick shot.
  20. i have been trying it out for the last couple months. A good acceleration curve can be quite advantageous, lots of quale pros, use acceleration curves for example. But it takes a lot of work to get used to an acceleration curve.
  21. just so much is inaccurate. Instead of splitting it into 2, i would put it in 1 and say something like "Laser vs Optical: Laser and Optical mice work the same way, the difference is one uses a laser light source and the other uses an LED light source. Sometimes the LED light source uses visible light, but modern implementations seem to be leaning towards infared, which isn't visible to the naked eye. There isn't anything technologically possible with one that isn't possible with the other. While in the future this might not be the case, current laser sensors on the market have speed related variance, often referred to as acceleration or more specifically hardware based acceleration.This is not to be confused with software based acceleration. In hardware based acceleration, the mouse is struggling to track your movement which results in the mouse either reporting more or less counts then it should have. The results of hardware based acceleration is that the mouse can't consistently move the same distance even if you moved the exact same distance at the exact same speed, which means its impossible to build muscle memory for, making it impossible for fast and precise mouse movement in any game. Software based acceleration is often in the drivers for mice and is also available in third party software along with in your windows settings. Software based acceleration takes the reports from your mouse and then makes you move more or less depending on your selected preferences. This is accurate and consistent so software based acceleration is far superior to hardware based acceleration for those wanting speed to effect distance. So even if you like acceleration (i do) you are better off achieving it with a mouse that has no hardware based acceleration and getting acceleration through software. While high end optical sensors are currently the most desirable for good tracking performance in games, you need to beware of cheap optical sensors which often have low max speeds before they start to malfunction. Fortunately most mouse manufactures advertise the max speed of their mouse. Unless you use a relatively low sensitivity, you should be fine with a max speed of 3 meters per second or 115 inches per second. If you use a pretty low sensitivity, you should probably look for an optical sensor with a max speed of at least 4 meters per second or 155 inches per second. Laser mice also generally track slightly better on non ideal surfaces. Finally: HIGH MAX DPI IS MEANINGLESS MARKETING BS. IT DOES NOT MEAN A MOUSE IS MORE ACCURATE. IGNORE THE MAX DPI OF THE MOUSE!!!!"
  22. you fail to mention that all modern laser sensors have acceleration, which is the major drawback of laser sensors. "More expensive mice tend to use laser tracking these days, although this does not mean that laser mice are better by any stretch of the imagination. On paper (not literally on paper, but on the spec sheet), laser sensors tend to appear superior." you are such full of laser bullshit. Why even tell people more expensive mice tend to use laser tracking? How is that supposed to help them make an informed decision? It seems like you're just trying to imply that laser is better without saying anything that is factually wrong. On paper, laser sensors don't appear to be superior, the 3310, 3366, and 3988 are all better or comparable on paper to laser sensors and almost all non bargain optical mice being made today are using the 3310, or 3988. even Linus, strongly against laser sensors https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=S68VXGDyjFc#t=139
  23. atavax

    Razer Hate?

    First problem with razer is very few of their mice have a respectable optical sensor and the ones that do have my least favorite optical sensor. 2nd problem is they do treat their customers like idiots, they took the deathadder, which is their enthusiast mouse, interpolated it to 10,000 dpi and is like, hey look,more accurate sensor. 3rd problem very questionable build quality and quality control. 4th is poor customer support 5th problem is they obviously market a lot. They rely less on word of mouth that their products are good. Marketing costs a lot of money, so to be profitable which all companies need to be, you almost always get significantly less for your money because you're paying for that marketing. Not to mention all the stupid shit that marketing adds to the mouse, the 10k dpi, the chroma bullshit. Finally marketing means the quality of the final product is less important because you're primarily relying on marketing to sell the product, not word of mouth. That is why if you have a choice between some brand that spends very little on marketing but has a good reputation in enthusiast communities, you're almost always going to get a better product then buying some product heavily hyped by the company that made it. $300 Hifiman headphones are way better then $300 Beats headphones because most of Beats' money goes into marketing, not into their products.
  24. First piece of advice no matter what you are looking for: HIGH MAX DPI IS MEANINGLESS If you sensor is very important which probably is because you want it for fps, you want an optical sensor. The best optical sensors on the market right now are the 3366, 3310, and AM010. Most mice with a max dpi of 5,000 are using the 3310 sensor, in addition to the zowie fk1, fk2, and the Mionix 7,000 series. THe 3366 and AM010 are in the newest Logitech mice, the 3366 in the g502 and the AM010 in the g602, g100s, g402, and g302. Don't get caught up in marketing gimmicks, you really shouldn't need more then 2 side buttons, super colorful lights should be your last concern. Razer quality control and customer service are pretty poor, if you really want to do one of the two in the OP, go with the Roccat Tyon. I personally tend to recommend Zowie, Mionix, Logitech, and Roccat.
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