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Not to hijack this topic but I feel like I'm in a very similar situation.

In light of Zen 2 I am preparing a system upgrade and managed to pick up some G.Skill 4000CL19 at a very reasonable price and was wondering if it's worth sticking with these and downclocking much like the OP?

Make sure your windows is fully updated, and set to automatic donwload and install. Run cmd.exe as admin and type in wuauclt.exe /updatenow Should activate it.

Yeah, did all that, multiple times. It just tells me Windows 10 upgrade reserved. I guess it's due to them staggering the updates.

Did you accidently launch the install file manually

No. It downloaded and attempted to install directly through Windows Update.

Installed. Really nice so far. Every setting and software is intact and works, even drivers. Only needed to update graphics cards driver to the win10 version (8.1 still worked though). Edge is very nice, and very fast. Needs some more settings though, but so nice!

How did you get yours to install? I keep getting a windows update error when trying to install Windows 10.

Sounds amazing. As long as I don't have to trade a foot for it.

$999 probably Australian/Canadian dollars. Loving the stickers.

Project Quantum looks like a lava lamp and I LOVE it!

So many people seem to be confused as to what the 390X actually is. It's the rebranded 290X, NOT the Fury flagship card AMD are launching soon.

Looks like a nice solid unit.

when were we back to the old myth of more vram means faster

A Fury thread doesn't go by without someone complaining about the 4GB of vram, all the while having no real world experience with Fiji.

I remember they said something about how their current GPUs and games by default are not efficient with VRAM. I.e.they store loads of unnecessary stuff in VRAM and that they are going to be able to manage this more efficiently with the Fiji driver.

As with anything that requires game developers to not be lazy, I wont hold my breath. I just hope AMD provides good drivers at game releases, much like they did with GTA5, and none of this "GameWorks held us back..." bullshit.

Just saw this posted on OC3D facebook page as well. Not that it's anything new, but nice to see the marketing direction they've taken. To all those people touting that 4GB vram isn't enough for 4K and it will be the death of this card: AMD appear to putting ALL the emphasis on 4K with the marketing direction, so having "only" 4GB of vram appears to be a non-issue.

EDIT: Clarity.

How do you figure? Historically Nvidia has always held a slight advantage in synthetic benchmarks (per an example a 970 get a decently higher score than a 290x but in real world performance the 290x will run along it neck and neck) There's also drivers to consider. The 9xx series cards have had multiple stable public driver releases and at best the amd card is running on an internal beta? I'm still pretty excited to see real world performance once its out in the wild.

 

The TI was also overclocked and we only have an example of a non-OCd AMD card. From what i know we know nothing of the Fiji OCability.

 

That said its the 980 ti thats throwing things out of wack. Without that card being such an incredible value this card (the FURY X [Presumably]) would have blown the socks of even the clingiest fanboy if it had traded blows with a titan for 7-800 bucks. Nvidia basically killed off the Titan x and the 980, so they were indeed scared of something and here it is.

 

That said with the 980 Ti where it is in pricing is going to make it really rough for AMD. Was a real dick move pricing it so aggressively. Consumer benefits and with the potential performance of the FURY it makes tons of sense. But damn. that was brutal.

 

Also what was everyone expecting? 20-30% above a titan? That's just a silly expectation. 

In some respects it's quite desperate from nVidia. Cannibalizing their own product line essentially, and inadvertently penalizing those who elected to purchase the 980 or Titan X. It's bordering on unethical business practice on multiple levels. 

Not a flame or troll question. Just seeking an honest answer: why didn't Nvidia use HBM on the TiX & 980 Ti? Did Nvidia not see enough of a performance increase for it? Are they letting AMD practically "beta" testing it before HBM2 becomes standard?

Like I said, I don't know. I'm sure Nvidia has the technology to implement HBM1 maybe specifically for their highest end cards. Just wondering why they chose to forego HBM1 and wait for Pascal.

I don't think there was much incentive for nVidia to compete on HBM1. They already maintain the vast majority of dGPU shares and thus don't really need to be at the forefront of innovation to drive sales. Plus there's the risk of early adoption with new tech and the innate issues that can potentially come with it. They can allow AMD to "beta" test the technology (as you pointed out) and, should it perform well, they wont lose too much in terms of revenue, but they can improve on whatever short-comings it may have in its current iteration ready for Pascal.

nVidia maintains a lot of its success through aggressive marketing, and refining existing technology. AMD are almost forced to rely on early adoption of new technology as a selling point. I just hope that AMD can claw back some market share so both companies can start pushing innovation.

Also they have a "R9 290X" on teh chart with 4gb of RAM at $549 dollars...wut..

Even if that was mislabeled it and it should have been 390x a 4gb? every other rumor has it at 8gb. I dont believe any of them but at first glance i'll take my chances with the majority in stead of the minority

They may be comparing it to the previous generations flagship. Could be a mistake though. 

On paper this card is shaping up to be well worth the wait. Hopefully it performs in gaming benchmarks at the same performance.

Am I the only one that noticed the rumour in the source link at the bottom that Star Wars: Battlefront is gonna ship with Fury?

Indeed. That $60 cash-back is actually quite appealing if you were considering the game anyway, which I'm sure most are.

"Does your oven run Nvidia or AMD?"

"Oh I have a AMD oven."

"Haha, probably inefficient."

"No, my food is cooked quicker."

The only time where running hotter might be considered an advantage. 

Wasn't it most likely he was talking about the PS4 version?

 

Because you don't have such fixed targets as 30fps on PC. Everybody has different hardware and gets different performance on PC.

30fps on a geforce 760 or a R9 280 my be 60fps on a geforce 970 or a R9 290x.

He was referring to the early access version on PC.

EDIT: Clarity.

EDIT: 11:30 they start talking about FPS and performance.

Why exactly is necroing a thread if you have valid input a bad thing? But posting epic-memes about said necroing is perfectly acceptable?

I watched an interview with one of the developers on Lirik's twitch stream, and he mentioned that they are currently optimizing the game for 30FPS. I can only assume that's due to the console version they're developing, but it's a real deal breaker for me. Lirik runs Tri-Titan X's and he was struggling to get 15 FPS with ultra settings, which is just insane when you consider the amount of power available to him.

To go on further from the lack of current optimization: they ultimately plan to implement the game with DX12. Now, we've already heard the stories that it's going to be up to the game developers to implement a lot of the features from DX12, and looking at the games current optimization it doesn't really fill me with much confidence.

I know I know, it's early access, I'm sure a lot of the performance issues will be resolved before the game is officially released, but they clearly stated their intentions of optimizing for 30FPS, so I'm not holding my breath. 

Here's hoping Fiji delivers. I have money with your name on it, AMD, don't let me down.

I don't underestimate its performance, I actually think the 290x is an outstanding piece of kit and would have got one myself if I could have afforded it, I just think that it's not the solution to regaining market share. NVidia released an entire lineup of new architecture cards with maxwell, and look how much market share increased when that happened. People want to feel like they're paying for something entirely new and improved, not just old stock, which is the feel a lot of people are likely getting from AMD at the moment. Yes it's stood the test of time, but it's not innovation, which is what people like to see.

And in a world where money wasn't an issue, we'd have non-stop innovation. Unfortunately the reality is that AMD simply cannot invest enough to warrant an entire new line of GPU's from the entry level to enthusiast grade. So they target the area in the market where they haven't been a contender for a while with the lure of new technology in HBM, meanwhile maintaining some relevance in the mid-high range with the rebrands.

With the budget AMD have, it's a sound strategy.

Radeon Fury MIGHT also sprout wings, fly out of your case, and try to take over the world.

Sounds like the plot line to an overly-dramatic 80's action film about a renegade cop who fights crime with super-human martial arts techniques.

Interested to see how this runs but in all honesty I don't see what market this is aimed at. I don't see console users buying this as its a platform they might not be familiar with, and seeing as the current consoles have huge loyal fan bases I doubt that'll change. Current steam users maybe, if they're considering a console, though if the streaming box is good enough I imagine that being a more likely, and less costly, alternative.

A little confused about the soldered-on GPU considering how they first marketed the system.

The controller looks interesting. Will likely pick one up for my PC.

In all its non-thermal-paste-riddled glory.