iamdarkyoshi

I fired up my most powerful rig yesterday to be greeted by j

 
This is literally all it does now.
 
This is the beefiest of the rigs, and its J'ing me
 
Not a good start

I fired up my most powerful rig yesterday to be greeted by j

 
This is literally all it does now.
 
This is the beefiest of the rigs, and its J'ing me
 
Not a good start

Oh god, all my stuff is down for various reasons :c
 
The triple GTX 480 rig works though

I ordered some circular 4 pin connectors and will be testing them soon, I'll update everyone when they get here.

They're standard 0.1in pin spacing, just like the old fashioned turned pin IC sockets.

The addressable RGB strips are just neopixels or WS2812Bs from what I've seen
 
And for the non addressable ones, the pinout above is pretty much good enough to work from. +12v on the first pin, then ground the remaining pins to light up green, red, or blue

guys I got a thing

Oh god, all my stuff is down for various reasons :c
 
The triple GTX 480 rig works though

So this may be a bit of a stray from the normal news formats, but Louis Rossmann just got in a Macbook Pro with a failed T2 chip.
 
Now, I know T2 has been covered here on the forums, but I think this instance is a really quite scary example of the issues it can cause, and is therefore potentially newsworthy.
 
For those who need a refresher, what is the T2 chip, and what does it do?
 
Straight from Apple's own website:
 
Added security and features sound great, right? Hold on.
This chip can ONLY be programmed by Apple, and it is TIED to the important hardware components inside the Macbook. The most important of which, is the SSD, which is ENCRYPTED by T2.
 
If something goes wrong in the Macbook, such as a bad wifi chip, you can't just desolder the old wifi chip and install a new one, the T2 chip must be reprogrammed to the new one. (I'd link another Rossmann video on this, but it seems to have been taken down, so I'm not going to quote this as a factually documented example for now)
 
The same applies to a T2 failure itself. If T2 fails, you can't replace it and get a working board again. Apple, and only Apple can repair such things, which they could very well simply refuse to fix, like they did with Linus's imac pro.
 
And since T2 handles encryption of your SSD, you can say bye-bye to anything on your SSD. Its gone, all of it. Time machine works great, but its not an excuse for such a volatile internal storage. If the point of encrypting the internal storage via a hardware solution was the idea, then time machine would be a bit pointless since it doesn't (to my knowledge) use T2's encryption, and by default isn't even encrypted, which seems like quite a security problem if someone were to nab your time machine backup, since it contains a full copy of the machine's disk.
 
Older macs used a System Management Controller or SMC, and it handled a fair amount of tasks, like power management, and although you couldn't program one off the shelf, you could desolder one from a donor board, and put it on the one you're fixing. They weren't specifically tied to the rest of the hardware, and they did not handle disk encryption.
 
Apple HAS documented that data recovery on a T2 mac is possible, however is requires that the machine be at least somewhat working. And in the event of a T2 failure, you're not going to get anywhere. T2 handles really basic but important stuff, like powering up the board's voltage rails.
 
In Rossmann's video, the customer was told by Apple that the mac had suffered severe liquid damage, which voided their warranty, and Rossmann shows is clearly not the case.
 
 
So because the T2 chip failed, and apple refuses to fix the faulty board, the customer has now lost all their data and needs a logic board replacement. Rossmann cannot fix this board, or any others with a similar failure.
 
What does this mean for the consumer of such products?
 
This means they have even less repair options for failures like this, and increased points of fatal failure.
 
On older macs, you could pull the SSD and put it into a new machine, or replace the logic board, and all would be as you left it.
 
On the newer but pre-T2 macs, the SSDs were almost always soldered, but a breakout point existed to connect to the soldered SSD and recover data.
 
But on these ones, not only has T2 locked out data recovery, it has also locked out a lot of repairs on the system that would have been possible before. Apple has essentially forced the consumer to go to them, and only them for repairs. And they don't really do component level repairs, usually just board replacement, as each unit is treated as a whole, like the fiasco with Linus's imac. This means you could need a new board at Apple instead of maybe just a new SMC, which would cost a fraction of the price to repair as a third party shop such as Rossmann's than a board replacement would.
 
Apple's fighting hard against consumer and third party repair, and personally, I think it needs to stop. I work at an independent repair shop, and I've already gotten fed up with mac repairs. They're always so much more annoying and expensive to repair, but changes like T2 could change "annoying" to "impossible"
 
also its late and I typed this entire article on my cell phone so if something's not quite right, sorry, I might be changing some stuff up if someone points something out, or I feel like it >~<

So this may be a bit of a stray from the normal news formats, but Louis Rossmann just got in a Macbook Pro with a failed T2 chip.
 
Now, I know T2 has been covered here on the forums, but I think this instance is a really quite scary example of the issues it can cause, and is therefore potentially newsworthy.
 
For those who need a refresher, what is the T2 chip, and what does it do?
 
Straight from Apple's own website:
 
Added security and features sound great, right? Hold on.
This chip can ONLY be programmed by Apple, and it is TIED to the important hardware components inside the Macbook. The most important of which, is the SSD, which is ENCRYPTED by T2.
 
If something goes wrong in the Macbook, such as a bad wifi chip, you can't just desolder the old wifi chip and install a new one, the T2 chip must be reprogrammed to the new one. (I'd link another Rossmann video on this, but it seems to have been taken down, so I'm not going to quote this as a factually documented example for now)
 
The same applies to a T2 failure itself. If T2 fails, you can't replace it and get a working board again. Apple, and only Apple can repair such things, which they could very well simply refuse to fix, like they did with Linus's imac pro.
 
And since T2 handles encryption of your SSD, you can say bye-bye to anything on your SSD. Its gone, all of it. Time machine works great, but its not an excuse for such a volatile internal storage. If the point of encrypting the internal storage via a hardware solution was the idea, then time machine would be a bit pointless since it doesn't (to my knowledge) use T2's encryption, and by default isn't even encrypted, which seems like quite a security problem if someone were to nab your time machine backup, since it contains a full copy of the machine's disk.
 
Older macs used a System Management Controller or SMC, and it handled a fair amount of tasks, like power management, and although you couldn't program one off the shelf, you could desolder one from a donor board, and put it on the one you're fixing. They weren't specifically tied to the rest of the hardware, and they did not handle disk encryption.
 
Apple HAS documented that data recovery on a T2 mac is possible, however is requires that the machine be at least somewhat working. And in the event of a T2 failure, you're not going to get anywhere. T2 handles really basic but important stuff, like powering up the board's voltage rails.
 
In Rossmann's video, the customer was told by Apple that the mac had suffered severe liquid damage, which voided their warranty, and Rossmann shows is clearly not the case.
 
 
So because the T2 chip failed, and apple refuses to fix the faulty board, the customer has now lost all their data and needs a logic board replacement. Rossmann cannot fix this board, or any others with a similar failure.
 
What does this mean for the consumer of such products?
 
This means they have even less repair options for failures like this, and increased points of fatal failure.
 
On older macs, you could pull the SSD and put it into a new machine, or replace the logic board, and all would be as you left it.
 
On the newer but pre-T2 macs, the SSDs were almost always soldered, but a breakout point existed to connect to the soldered SSD and recover data.
 
But on these ones, not only has T2 locked out data recovery, it has also locked out a lot of repairs on the system that would have been possible before. Apple has essentially forced the consumer to go to them, and only them for repairs. And they don't really do component level repairs, usually just board replacement, as each unit is treated as a whole, like the fiasco with Linus's imac. This means you could need a new board at Apple instead of maybe just a new SMC, which would cost a fraction of the price to repair as a third party shop such as Rossmann's than a board replacement would.
 
Apple's fighting hard against consumer and third party repair, and personally, I think it needs to stop. I work at an independent repair shop, and I've already gotten fed up with mac repairs. They're always so much more annoying and expensive to repair, but changes like T2 could change "annoying" to "impossible"
 
also its late and I typed this entire article on my cell phone so if something's not quite right, sorry, I might be changing some stuff up if someone points something out, or I feel like it >~<

In a way, yeah

While I totally agree that anyone without a backup (especially time machine since it actually works) is a moron, it doesn't address the fact that apple is locking out third party repair. Everyone should have a choice on where to bring their car for repairs, or repair it themselves. The same should apply to their computer.

So this may be a bit of a stray from the normal news formats, but Louis Rossmann just got in a Macbook Pro with a failed T2 chip.
 
Now, I know T2 has been covered here on the forums, but I think this instance is a really quite scary example of the issues it can cause, and is therefore potentially newsworthy.
 
For those who need a refresher, what is the T2 chip, and what does it do?
 
Straight from Apple's own website:
 
Added security and features sound great, right? Hold on.
This chip can ONLY be programmed by Apple, and it is TIED to the important hardware components inside the Macbook. The most important of which, is the SSD, which is ENCRYPTED by T2.
 
If something goes wrong in the Macbook, such as a bad wifi chip, you can't just desolder the old wifi chip and install a new one, the T2 chip must be reprogrammed to the new one. (I'd link another Rossmann video on this, but it seems to have been taken down, so I'm not going to quote this as a factually documented example for now)
 
The same applies to a T2 failure itself. If T2 fails, you can't replace it and get a working board again. Apple, and only Apple can repair such things, which they could very well simply refuse to fix, like they did with Linus's imac pro.
 
And since T2 handles encryption of your SSD, you can say bye-bye to anything on your SSD. Its gone, all of it. Time machine works great, but its not an excuse for such a volatile internal storage. If the point of encrypting the internal storage via a hardware solution was the idea, then time machine would be a bit pointless since it doesn't (to my knowledge) use T2's encryption, and by default isn't even encrypted, which seems like quite a security problem if someone were to nab your time machine backup, since it contains a full copy of the machine's disk.
 
Older macs used a System Management Controller or SMC, and it handled a fair amount of tasks, like power management, and although you couldn't program one off the shelf, you could desolder one from a donor board, and put it on the one you're fixing. They weren't specifically tied to the rest of the hardware, and they did not handle disk encryption.
 
Apple HAS documented that data recovery on a T2 mac is possible, however is requires that the machine be at least somewhat working. And in the event of a T2 failure, you're not going to get anywhere. T2 handles really basic but important stuff, like powering up the board's voltage rails.
 
In Rossmann's video, the customer was told by Apple that the mac had suffered severe liquid damage, which voided their warranty, and Rossmann shows is clearly not the case.
 
 
So because the T2 chip failed, and apple refuses to fix the faulty board, the customer has now lost all their data and needs a logic board replacement. Rossmann cannot fix this board, or any others with a similar failure.
 
What does this mean for the consumer of such products?
 
This means they have even less repair options for failures like this, and increased points of fatal failure.
 
On older macs, you could pull the SSD and put it into a new machine, or replace the logic board, and all would be as you left it.
 
On the newer but pre-T2 macs, the SSDs were almost always soldered, but a breakout point existed to connect to the soldered SSD and recover data.
 
But on these ones, not only has T2 locked out data recovery, it has also locked out a lot of repairs on the system that would have been possible before. Apple has essentially forced the consumer to go to them, and only them for repairs. And they don't really do component level repairs, usually just board replacement, as each unit is treated as a whole, like the fiasco with Linus's imac. This means you could need a new board at Apple instead of maybe just a new SMC, which would cost a fraction of the price to repair as a third party shop such as Rossmann's than a board replacement would.
 
Apple's fighting hard against consumer and third party repair, and personally, I think it needs to stop. I work at an independent repair shop, and I've already gotten fed up with mac repairs. They're always so much more annoying and expensive to repair, but changes like T2 could change "annoying" to "impossible"
 
also its late and I typed this entire article on my cell phone so if something's not quite right, sorry, I might be changing some stuff up if someone points something out, or I feel like it >~<

So this may be a bit of a stray from the normal news formats, but Louis Rossmann just got in a Macbook Pro with a failed T2 chip.
 
Now, I know T2 has been covered here on the forums, but I think this instance is a really quite scary example of the issues it can cause, and is therefore potentially newsworthy.
 
For those who need a refresher, what is the T2 chip, and what does it do?
 
Straight from Apple's own website:
 
Added security and features sound great, right? Hold on.
This chip can ONLY be programmed by Apple, and it is TIED to the important hardware components inside the Macbook. The most important of which, is the SSD, which is ENCRYPTED by T2.
 
If something goes wrong in the Macbook, such as a bad wifi chip, you can't just desolder the old wifi chip and install a new one, the T2 chip must be reprogrammed to the new one. (I'd link another Rossmann video on this, but it seems to have been taken down, so I'm not going to quote this as a factually documented example for now)
 
The same applies to a T2 failure itself. If T2 fails, you can't replace it and get a working board again. Apple, and only Apple can repair such things, which they could very well simply refuse to fix, like they did with Linus's imac pro.
 
And since T2 handles encryption of your SSD, you can say bye-bye to anything on your SSD. Its gone, all of it. Time machine works great, but its not an excuse for such a volatile internal storage. If the point of encrypting the internal storage via a hardware solution was the idea, then time machine would be a bit pointless since it doesn't (to my knowledge) use T2's encryption, and by default isn't even encrypted, which seems like quite a security problem if someone were to nab your time machine backup, since it contains a full copy of the machine's disk.
 
Older macs used a System Management Controller or SMC, and it handled a fair amount of tasks, like power management, and although you couldn't program one off the shelf, you could desolder one from a donor board, and put it on the one you're fixing. They weren't specifically tied to the rest of the hardware, and they did not handle disk encryption.
 
Apple HAS documented that data recovery on a T2 mac is possible, however is requires that the machine be at least somewhat working. And in the event of a T2 failure, you're not going to get anywhere. T2 handles really basic but important stuff, like powering up the board's voltage rails.
 
In Rossmann's video, the customer was told by Apple that the mac had suffered severe liquid damage, which voided their warranty, and Rossmann shows is clearly not the case.
 
 
So because the T2 chip failed, and apple refuses to fix the faulty board, the customer has now lost all their data and needs a logic board replacement. Rossmann cannot fix this board, or any others with a similar failure.
 
What does this mean for the consumer of such products?
 
This means they have even less repair options for failures like this, and increased points of fatal failure.
 
On older macs, you could pull the SSD and put it into a new machine, or replace the logic board, and all would be as you left it.
 
On the newer but pre-T2 macs, the SSDs were almost always soldered, but a breakout point existed to connect to the soldered SSD and recover data.
 
But on these ones, not only has T2 locked out data recovery, it has also locked out a lot of repairs on the system that would have been possible before. Apple has essentially forced the consumer to go to them, and only them for repairs. And they don't really do component level repairs, usually just board replacement, as each unit is treated as a whole, like the fiasco with Linus's imac. This means you could need a new board at Apple instead of maybe just a new SMC, which would cost a fraction of the price to repair as a third party shop such as Rossmann's than a board replacement would.
 
Apple's fighting hard against consumer and third party repair, and personally, I think it needs to stop. I work at an independent repair shop, and I've already gotten fed up with mac repairs. They're always so much more annoying and expensive to repair, but changes like T2 could change "annoying" to "impossible"
 
also its late and I typed this entire article on my cell phone so if something's not quite right, sorry, I might be changing some stuff up if someone points something out, or I feel like it >~<

Maybe so, but win10 aint getting better either. Quite the contrary IMO, its getting worse with every iteration. Linux on the other hand keeps on getting better and better. There are some issues but so far it always gone back to HW manufacturers using weirdo configurations/solutions.... (like sdio wifi, never heard about it up until now)

So this may be a bit of a stray from the normal news formats, but Louis Rossmann just got in a Macbook Pro with a failed T2 chip.
 
Now, I know T2 has been covered here on the forums, but I think this instance is a really quite scary example of the issues it can cause, and is therefore potentially newsworthy.
 
For those who need a refresher, what is the T2 chip, and what does it do?
 
Straight from Apple's own website:
 
Added security and features sound great, right? Hold on.
This chip can ONLY be programmed by Apple, and it is TIED to the important hardware components inside the Macbook. The most important of which, is the SSD, which is ENCRYPTED by T2.
 
If something goes wrong in the Macbook, such as a bad wifi chip, you can't just desolder the old wifi chip and install a new one, the T2 chip must be reprogrammed to the new one. (I'd link another Rossmann video on this, but it seems to have been taken down, so I'm not going to quote this as a factually documented example for now)
 
The same applies to a T2 failure itself. If T2 fails, you can't replace it and get a working board again. Apple, and only Apple can repair such things, which they could very well simply refuse to fix, like they did with Linus's imac pro.
 
And since T2 handles encryption of your SSD, you can say bye-bye to anything on your SSD. Its gone, all of it. Time machine works great, but its not an excuse for such a volatile internal storage. If the point of encrypting the internal storage via a hardware solution was the idea, then time machine would be a bit pointless since it doesn't (to my knowledge) use T2's encryption, and by default isn't even encrypted, which seems like quite a security problem if someone were to nab your time machine backup, since it contains a full copy of the machine's disk.
 
Older macs used a System Management Controller or SMC, and it handled a fair amount of tasks, like power management, and although you couldn't program one off the shelf, you could desolder one from a donor board, and put it on the one you're fixing. They weren't specifically tied to the rest of the hardware, and they did not handle disk encryption.
 
Apple HAS documented that data recovery on a T2 mac is possible, however is requires that the machine be at least somewhat working. And in the event of a T2 failure, you're not going to get anywhere. T2 handles really basic but important stuff, like powering up the board's voltage rails.
 
In Rossmann's video, the customer was told by Apple that the mac had suffered severe liquid damage, which voided their warranty, and Rossmann shows is clearly not the case.
 
 
So because the T2 chip failed, and apple refuses to fix the faulty board, the customer has now lost all their data and needs a logic board replacement. Rossmann cannot fix this board, or any others with a similar failure.
 
What does this mean for the consumer of such products?
 
This means they have even less repair options for failures like this, and increased points of fatal failure.
 
On older macs, you could pull the SSD and put it into a new machine, or replace the logic board, and all would be as you left it.
 
On the newer but pre-T2 macs, the SSDs were almost always soldered, but a breakout point existed to connect to the soldered SSD and recover data.
 
But on these ones, not only has T2 locked out data recovery, it has also locked out a lot of repairs on the system that would have been possible before. Apple has essentially forced the consumer to go to them, and only them for repairs. And they don't really do component level repairs, usually just board replacement, as each unit is treated as a whole, like the fiasco with Linus's imac. This means you could need a new board at Apple instead of maybe just a new SMC, which would cost a fraction of the price to repair as a third party shop such as Rossmann's than a board replacement would.
 
Apple's fighting hard against consumer and third party repair, and personally, I think it needs to stop. I work at an independent repair shop, and I've already gotten fed up with mac repairs. They're always so much more annoying and expensive to repair, but changes like T2 could change "annoying" to "impossible"
 
also its late and I typed this entire article on my cell phone so if something's not quite right, sorry, I might be changing some stuff up if someone points something out, or I feel like it >~<

So this may be a bit of a stray from the normal news formats, but Louis Rossmann just got in a Macbook Pro with a failed T2 chip.
 
Now, I know T2 has been covered here on the forums, but I think this instance is a really quite scary example of the issues it can cause, and is therefore potentially newsworthy.
 
For those who need a refresher, what is the T2 chip, and what does it do?
 
Straight from Apple's own website:
 
Added security and features sound great, right? Hold on.
This chip can ONLY be programmed by Apple, and it is TIED to the important hardware components inside the Macbook. The most important of which, is the SSD, which is ENCRYPTED by T2.
 
If something goes wrong in the Macbook, such as a bad wifi chip, you can't just desolder the old wifi chip and install a new one, the T2 chip must be reprogrammed to the new one. (I'd link another Rossmann video on this, but it seems to have been taken down, so I'm not going to quote this as a factually documented example for now)
 
The same applies to a T2 failure itself. If T2 fails, you can't replace it and get a working board again. Apple, and only Apple can repair such things, which they could very well simply refuse to fix, like they did with Linus's imac pro.
 
And since T2 handles encryption of your SSD, you can say bye-bye to anything on your SSD. Its gone, all of it. Time machine works great, but its not an excuse for such a volatile internal storage. If the point of encrypting the internal storage via a hardware solution was the idea, then time machine would be a bit pointless since it doesn't (to my knowledge) use T2's encryption, and by default isn't even encrypted, which seems like quite a security problem if someone were to nab your time machine backup, since it contains a full copy of the machine's disk.
 
Older macs used a System Management Controller or SMC, and it handled a fair amount of tasks, like power management, and although you couldn't program one off the shelf, you could desolder one from a donor board, and put it on the one you're fixing. They weren't specifically tied to the rest of the hardware, and they did not handle disk encryption.
 
Apple HAS documented that data recovery on a T2 mac is possible, however is requires that the machine be at least somewhat working. And in the event of a T2 failure, you're not going to get anywhere. T2 handles really basic but important stuff, like powering up the board's voltage rails.
 
In Rossmann's video, the customer was told by Apple that the mac had suffered severe liquid damage, which voided their warranty, and Rossmann shows is clearly not the case.
 
 
So because the T2 chip failed, and apple refuses to fix the faulty board, the customer has now lost all their data and needs a logic board replacement. Rossmann cannot fix this board, or any others with a similar failure.
 
What does this mean for the consumer of such products?
 
This means they have even less repair options for failures like this, and increased points of fatal failure.
 
On older macs, you could pull the SSD and put it into a new machine, or replace the logic board, and all would be as you left it.
 
On the newer but pre-T2 macs, the SSDs were almost always soldered, but a breakout point existed to connect to the soldered SSD and recover data.
 
But on these ones, not only has T2 locked out data recovery, it has also locked out a lot of repairs on the system that would have been possible before. Apple has essentially forced the consumer to go to them, and only them for repairs. And they don't really do component level repairs, usually just board replacement, as each unit is treated as a whole, like the fiasco with Linus's imac. This means you could need a new board at Apple instead of maybe just a new SMC, which would cost a fraction of the price to repair as a third party shop such as Rossmann's than a board replacement would.
 
Apple's fighting hard against consumer and third party repair, and personally, I think it needs to stop. I work at an independent repair shop, and I've already gotten fed up with mac repairs. They're always so much more annoying and expensive to repair, but changes like T2 could change "annoying" to "impossible"
 
also its late and I typed this entire article on my cell phone so if something's not quite right, sorry, I might be changing some stuff up if someone points something out, or I feel like it >~<

So this may be a bit of a stray from the normal news formats, but Louis Rossmann just got in a Macbook Pro with a failed T2 chip.
 
Now, I know T2 has been covered here on the forums, but I think this instance is a really quite scary example of the issues it can cause, and is therefore potentially newsworthy.
 
For those who need a refresher, what is the T2 chip, and what does it do?
 
Straight from Apple's own website:
 
Added security and features sound great, right? Hold on.
This chip can ONLY be programmed by Apple, and it is TIED to the important hardware components inside the Macbook. The most important of which, is the SSD, which is ENCRYPTED by T2.
 
If something goes wrong in the Macbook, such as a bad wifi chip, you can't just desolder the old wifi chip and install a new one, the T2 chip must be reprogrammed to the new one. (I'd link another Rossmann video on this, but it seems to have been taken down, so I'm not going to quote this as a factually documented example for now)
 
The same applies to a T2 failure itself. If T2 fails, you can't replace it and get a working board again. Apple, and only Apple can repair such things, which they could very well simply refuse to fix, like they did with Linus's imac pro.
 
And since T2 handles encryption of your SSD, you can say bye-bye to anything on your SSD. Its gone, all of it. Time machine works great, but its not an excuse for such a volatile internal storage. If the point of encrypting the internal storage via a hardware solution was the idea, then time machine would be a bit pointless since it doesn't (to my knowledge) use T2's encryption, and by default isn't even encrypted, which seems like quite a security problem if someone were to nab your time machine backup, since it contains a full copy of the machine's disk.
 
Older macs used a System Management Controller or SMC, and it handled a fair amount of tasks, like power management, and although you couldn't program one off the shelf, you could desolder one from a donor board, and put it on the one you're fixing. They weren't specifically tied to the rest of the hardware, and they did not handle disk encryption.
 
Apple HAS documented that data recovery on a T2 mac is possible, however is requires that the machine be at least somewhat working. And in the event of a T2 failure, you're not going to get anywhere. T2 handles really basic but important stuff, like powering up the board's voltage rails.
 
In Rossmann's video, the customer was told by Apple that the mac had suffered severe liquid damage, which voided their warranty, and Rossmann shows is clearly not the case.
 
 
So because the T2 chip failed, and apple refuses to fix the faulty board, the customer has now lost all their data and needs a logic board replacement. Rossmann cannot fix this board, or any others with a similar failure.
 
What does this mean for the consumer of such products?
 
This means they have even less repair options for failures like this, and increased points of fatal failure.
 
On older macs, you could pull the SSD and put it into a new machine, or replace the logic board, and all would be as you left it.
 
On the newer but pre-T2 macs, the SSDs were almost always soldered, but a breakout point existed to connect to the soldered SSD and recover data.
 
But on these ones, not only has T2 locked out data recovery, it has also locked out a lot of repairs on the system that would have been possible before. Apple has essentially forced the consumer to go to them, and only them for repairs. And they don't really do component level repairs, usually just board replacement, as each unit is treated as a whole, like the fiasco with Linus's imac. This means you could need a new board at Apple instead of maybe just a new SMC, which would cost a fraction of the price to repair as a third party shop such as Rossmann's than a board replacement would.
 
Apple's fighting hard against consumer and third party repair, and personally, I think it needs to stop. I work at an independent repair shop, and I've already gotten fed up with mac repairs. They're always so much more annoying and expensive to repair, but changes like T2 could change "annoying" to "impossible"
 
also its late and I typed this entire article on my cell phone so if something's not quite right, sorry, I might be changing some stuff up if someone points something out, or I feel like it >~<

So this may be a bit of a stray from the normal news formats, but Louis Rossmann just got in a Macbook Pro with a failed T2 chip.
 
Now, I know T2 has been covered here on the forums, but I think this instance is a really quite scary example of the issues it can cause, and is therefore potentially newsworthy.
 
For those who need a refresher, what is the T2 chip, and what does it do?
 
Straight from Apple's own website:
 
Added security and features sound great, right? Hold on.
This chip can ONLY be programmed by Apple, and it is TIED to the important hardware components inside the Macbook. The most important of which, is the SSD, which is ENCRYPTED by T2.
 
If something goes wrong in the Macbook, such as a bad wifi chip, you can't just desolder the old wifi chip and install a new one, the T2 chip must be reprogrammed to the new one. (I'd link another Rossmann video on this, but it seems to have been taken down, so I'm not going to quote this as a factually documented example for now)
 
The same applies to a T2 failure itself. If T2 fails, you can't replace it and get a working board again. Apple, and only Apple can repair such things, which they could very well simply refuse to fix, like they did with Linus's imac pro.
 
And since T2 handles encryption of your SSD, you can say bye-bye to anything on your SSD. Its gone, all of it. Time machine works great, but its not an excuse for such a volatile internal storage. If the point of encrypting the internal storage via a hardware solution was the idea, then time machine would be a bit pointless since it doesn't (to my knowledge) use T2's encryption, and by default isn't even encrypted, which seems like quite a security problem if someone were to nab your time machine backup, since it contains a full copy of the machine's disk.
 
Older macs used a System Management Controller or SMC, and it handled a fair amount of tasks, like power management, and although you couldn't program one off the shelf, you could desolder one from a donor board, and put it on the one you're fixing. They weren't specifically tied to the rest of the hardware, and they did not handle disk encryption.
 
Apple HAS documented that data recovery on a T2 mac is possible, however is requires that the machine be at least somewhat working. And in the event of a T2 failure, you're not going to get anywhere. T2 handles really basic but important stuff, like powering up the board's voltage rails.
 
In Rossmann's video, the customer was told by Apple that the mac had suffered severe liquid damage, which voided their warranty, and Rossmann shows is clearly not the case.
 
 
So because the T2 chip failed, and apple refuses to fix the faulty board, the customer has now lost all their data and needs a logic board replacement. Rossmann cannot fix this board, or any others with a similar failure.
 
What does this mean for the consumer of such products?
 
This means they have even less repair options for failures like this, and increased points of fatal failure.
 
On older macs, you could pull the SSD and put it into a new machine, or replace the logic board, and all would be as you left it.
 
On the newer but pre-T2 macs, the SSDs were almost always soldered, but a breakout point existed to connect to the soldered SSD and recover data.
 
But on these ones, not only has T2 locked out data recovery, it has also locked out a lot of repairs on the system that would have been possible before. Apple has essentially forced the consumer to go to them, and only them for repairs. And they don't really do component level repairs, usually just board replacement, as each unit is treated as a whole, like the fiasco with Linus's imac. This means you could need a new board at Apple instead of maybe just a new SMC, which would cost a fraction of the price to repair as a third party shop such as Rossmann's than a board replacement would.
 
Apple's fighting hard against consumer and third party repair, and personally, I think it needs to stop. I work at an independent repair shop, and I've already gotten fed up with mac repairs. They're always so much more annoying and expensive to repair, but changes like T2 could change "annoying" to "impossible"
 
also its late and I typed this entire article on my cell phone so if something's not quite right, sorry, I might be changing some stuff up if someone points something out, or I feel like it >~<

I hope so... But its not the first time they used liquid damage as a false diagnosis

They claimed that the machine was badly liquid damaged, which rossmann discovered was not the case. Presumably they [apple] lied to the customer to back out of a warranty repair and having to come up with an excuse for data loss

While I totally agree that anyone without a backup (especially time machine since it actually works) is a moron, it doesn't address the fact that apple is locking out third party repair. Everyone should have a choice on where to bring their car for repairs, or repair it themselves. The same should apply to their computer.

So this may be a bit of a stray from the normal news formats, but Louis Rossmann just got in a Macbook Pro with a failed T2 chip.
 
Now, I know T2 has been covered here on the forums, but I think this instance is a really quite scary example of the issues it can cause, and is therefore potentially newsworthy.
 
For those who need a refresher, what is the T2 chip, and what does it do?
 
Straight from Apple's own website:
 
Added security and features sound great, right? Hold on.
This chip can ONLY be programmed by Apple, and it is TIED to the important hardware components inside the Macbook. The most important of which, is the SSD, which is ENCRYPTED by T2.
 
If something goes wrong in the Macbook, such as a bad wifi chip, you can't just desolder the old wifi chip and install a new one, the T2 chip must be reprogrammed to the new one. (I'd link another Rossmann video on this, but it seems to have been taken down, so I'm not going to quote this as a factually documented example for now)
 
The same applies to a T2 failure itself. If T2 fails, you can't replace it and get a working board again. Apple, and only Apple can repair such things, which they could very well simply refuse to fix, like they did with Linus's imac pro.
 
And since T2 handles encryption of your SSD, you can say bye-bye to anything on your SSD. Its gone, all of it. Time machine works great, but its not an excuse for such a volatile internal storage. If the point of encrypting the internal storage via a hardware solution was the idea, then time machine would be a bit pointless since it doesn't (to my knowledge) use T2's encryption, and by default isn't even encrypted, which seems like quite a security problem if someone were to nab your time machine backup, since it contains a full copy of the machine's disk.
 
Older macs used a System Management Controller or SMC, and it handled a fair amount of tasks, like power management, and although you couldn't program one off the shelf, you could desolder one from a donor board, and put it on the one you're fixing. They weren't specifically tied to the rest of the hardware, and they did not handle disk encryption.
 
Apple HAS documented that data recovery on a T2 mac is possible, however is requires that the machine be at least somewhat working. And in the event of a T2 failure, you're not going to get anywhere. T2 handles really basic but important stuff, like powering up the board's voltage rails.
 
In Rossmann's video, the customer was told by Apple that the mac had suffered severe liquid damage, which voided their warranty, and Rossmann shows is clearly not the case.
 
 
So because the T2 chip failed, and apple refuses to fix the faulty board, the customer has now lost all their data and needs a logic board replacement. Rossmann cannot fix this board, or any others with a similar failure.
 
What does this mean for the consumer of such products?
 
This means they have even less repair options for failures like this, and increased points of fatal failure.
 
On older macs, you could pull the SSD and put it into a new machine, or replace the logic board, and all would be as you left it.
 
On the newer but pre-T2 macs, the SSDs were almost always soldered, but a breakout point existed to connect to the soldered SSD and recover data.
 
But on these ones, not only has T2 locked out data recovery, it has also locked out a lot of repairs on the system that would have been possible before. Apple has essentially forced the consumer to go to them, and only them for repairs. And they don't really do component level repairs, usually just board replacement, as each unit is treated as a whole, like the fiasco with Linus's imac. This means you could need a new board at Apple instead of maybe just a new SMC, which would cost a fraction of the price to repair as a third party shop such as Rossmann's than a board replacement would.
 
Apple's fighting hard against consumer and third party repair, and personally, I think it needs to stop. I work at an independent repair shop, and I've already gotten fed up with mac repairs. They're always so much more annoying and expensive to repair, but changes like T2 could change "annoying" to "impossible"
 
also its late and I typed this entire article on my cell phone so if something's not quite right, sorry, I might be changing some stuff up if someone points something out, or I feel like it >~<

I hope so... But its not the first time they used liquid damage as a false diagnosis

They claimed that the machine was badly liquid damaged, which rossmann discovered was not the case. Presumably they [apple] lied to the customer to back out of a warranty repair and having to come up with an excuse for data loss