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  1. What's wrong with the AM4 socket? You can get a free AM4 bracket from NZXT for your kraken as well.
  2. If all you'll be doing is gaming, then yes, you will be completely fine with an i5 7600k.
  3. If your motherboard has a CMOS button, yes. If it does not have a CMOS button, then there should be 2 CMOS header pins that you can short out with something metallic, similar to how you'd start your PC without a power button. A metallic screwdriver typically works the best for this.
  4. What games do you play? I'd go with the i7 7700k just for gaming. In terms of a CPU that can handle streaming/photo editing, etc. extremely well, I'd recommend considering the Ryzen 1700.
  5. Bottlenecks a ridiculously powerful graphics card at low resolution and settings, yes. Also, I'm pretty sure everyone agrees that the 1800x and 1700x are pretty bad value considering the 1700 can be overclocked to the point where it's comparable with the 1800x for less money than an i7 7700k.
  6. Well, what kind of responses were/are you expecting to receive? Nobody knows, especially since Ryzen literally just launched..
  7. Have you tried reseating the CPU and cooler? Also, try resetting the CMOS.
  8. I completely agree that it will be a while until games really benefit from newer APIs such as Vulkan and DX12, but I continue to see people recommending the i7 7700k consistently over the R7 1700 for new builders and people that want to upgrade to a more modern chipset overall. This is fine as long as that user will only be gaming, but it seems that it's a common misconception among many users that Ryzen CPUs are absolutely horrible for gaming, so I just wanted to clear that up. In regards to the minimums, it seems I am mistaken and that the i7 7700k does beat Ryzen CPUs in most games. I would still imagine that these will increase drastically, however, once the SMT and scheduling issues are fixed.
  9. I completely agree that 1% and 0.1% minimums matter, which is why I'll be going with Ryzen. In pretty much every review that tested a Ryzen CPU with SMT disabled, the i7 7700k and the Ryzen CPU traded blows in regards to minimums. Once the scheduling issues regarding cache and SMT are fixed, then the minimum frame rates should be even higher. You also seem to disregard that the gaming industry as a whole is moving toward utilizing more cores/threads overall with newer APIs such as DX12 and Vulkan.
  10. The R7 1700 price difference is negligible (it is $30 cheaper in terms of MSRP actually), and can be overclocked to near 1800x performance, so I really don't understand why anyone would choose to go with an i7 7700k over an R7 1700 unless that person is only interested in gaming (which, admittedly, is probably the majority of people on this forum). Maybe I do just fit into a niche, but I truly believe that many users (again, probably not the majority on this forum, however) can benefit from the workstation benefits that Ryzen does provide with the additional 4 cores and 8 threads. With that all said, you seem to be over exaggerating the performance discrepancy between the i7 7700k and Ryzen 7 and are making it seem like hardcore gamers cannot play games on it which simply isn't true.
  11. Ah okay that makes sense, I was just concerned because I thought that was manual haha.
  12. I highly disagree that gamers should ignore Ryzen, unless they are literally only interested in gaming. Ryzen has only been out for a few days and performance should increase significantly once software issues with Windows 10, BIOS, etc. are ironed out. With that said, however, Intel will always be better in a CPU bottleneck situation due to the higher IPC and clock speeds and the lack of support for 8c/16t utilization. That's just the thing most people don't understand, though, this is in CPU bottlenecked situations. The vast majority of people will always be bottlenecked by their GPU, and as a result of that, Ryzen and Intel don't have that much of a difference at all. What does have a HUGE performance difference is any multitasking/CPU intensive tasks that have good threading support.
  13. There are plenty of valid reasons to go with an R7 1700 over an i7 7700k, and in fact, I'd be willing to say you'd be stupid not to unless you plan on using your PC for gaming only. I realize that this is what you essentially meant, but it shouldn't be understated that Ryzen CPUs are a fantastic choice for many that will continue to get better as software is optimized toward the new architecture.
  14. I will try this next weekend when I get home (had to go back to college). I ran Memtest for 18 hours on all CPU cores and it passed 3 times with 0 errors, so hopefully there is a short of some sort that will be eliminated once I try to breadboard it. Thanks for the help!
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