genghisquan

Not to resurrect an old thread, but I just wanted to give an update for anyone who might be experiencing similar RAM issues.
 
After upping the SOC voltage, the system seemed to boot more consistently, but a few days later, I was still getting random BSODs during web browsing and watching videos on YouTube. Once again, I ran MemTest and came up with multiple errors. I got an RMA from G. Skill after citing MemTest errors. I haven't gotten any issues with the new RAM kit since. 

Aaaaaand this is how fast the tech world changes. 
 
Unless you need a video card today, and can wait until January/February, looks like the 3060Ti is now the $400 king (if you can find one at that price)
 
Merry Christmas, scalpers! - RTX 3060 Ti Review - YouTube
 
HWUnboxed did a great comparison between the 5700XT and the 3060Ti:
Nvidia GeForce RTX 3060 Ti Benchmark Review, Gaming, Thermals & Overclocking - YouTube
 
Again, if you can find one (good luck), or wait, no reason to get a 5700XT anymore

I'm not 100% sure if I'm correct, but if someone could correct me. A transistor switches from 1 and 0, this is how the computer does arithmetic and communicates, so what this voltage is doing is to stabilise the transistor that sets the content of a memory address. So it's basically the voltage for the memory controller. But I don't know why yours is at 0 V.

I checked out PBO settings, I had apparently put it to "motherboard". When I put it to Auto instead, its on average ish  1,34-1,35v ish instead of 1,36v in cinebench, but are getting about 50 points less. not that much.

Like it jumps between 1,32v and 1,36xv in the run now.

Should I touch anything more?

Also about 5c lower than before. (max 65c now)

For referece, I am getting 3450-3510 points multicore now (was up to 3560 before) 
 
Also, I did fold on it the last weeks as it was and it perform the same now as when I got it...

They prpbably did. We should perhaps influence LTT to revise their zen 2 overclocking video. If they did actually mention 1,36v being the "upper end" of safe voltages. 
 
 
While technically not wrong, we its still in the "unsafe" range for static voltage overclocks. (Uncore doesnt help here). 

Yeah its the upper end of "safe" voltages. 
 
Which isnt super widely known it seems. 
 
Like when pcmag ran 1,5v allcore on a 3970x........ Siting longevity concerns in regards to overclocking on the chips....... Why they give that writer more CPUs is beyond me.
 
And reviewers often run way to high voltages to just do an easy overclock. And people take those numbers as "safe voltages". 

3600x owner here, i leave mt CPU stock when i'm just using my PC for browsing etc but apply an OC profile from within Ryzen Master when i game/stream or run benchmarks.
 
Stock voltages on my chip for light loads i've seen as high as 1.5 but that's fine on Zen 2 for low current loads. Stock voltages on a heavy workload like Cinebench for example see mine around 1.375 with the chip boosting to 4150-4175MHz all core without PBO enabled.
 
With my OC profile in Ryzen Master enabled i can achieve 4250MHz all core at 1.2625v which does improve multicore performance and lower temps while i'm running games or benchmarks.
 
Depending on the chip even 1.325v maybe to much to run as a static voltage on Zen 2. Most likely fine on a 3600 tbf.

Yeah, stock behavior may do that. 
 
Just dont input any fixed voltages for vcore. 

Yeah its normal behavior for low current loads. 
 
There have been iterations of this since zen 1. And people keep trying to "fix" it. Even tho its not actually an issue. 
 
Yeah the upper limit has been lowered and lowered since day 1. Currently 1.325v is the upper limit. At which point. Outside of allcore performance, it makes very little sence to overclock. 
Probably in relation to what AMD runs themselves, which leads to a lot of confusion. 
 
Id rather keep an eye on what people have run, and experienced degrading with. Which is anything above 1.325v from what i can tell. 
 
Its not a definitive line and it varies ln a CPU to CPU basis, but its better to assume you lost the silicon lottery, rather than you have won it. 

My 3600 do 1,47v even idle in Windows in HWinfo, while it does 1,364v under all core load. Only thing I have done is put on PBO and AutoOC.
 
What's weird to me is that one place some people said 1,35v is the max safe, but other places some AMD representative or forum person or whatever said higher than that is also safe?

It will when you do what OP did......
 
Setting it to 1.36v. which at this point is considered "lethal" voltage. In the sense it will relativly quickly degrade your CPU

Hey, thanks for you reply. My SOC voltage was already at 1.1V this wole time. I tried setting it to 1.16V, and everything booted up just fine multiple times the next day. Thanks for your help! 

To actually respond to your questions-
https://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/3494-amd-ryzen-3000-undervolting-offset-override
 
Gamers nexus did a pretty interesting piece on this a while back, worth a read/watch 

Or, and just hear me out here, motherboard manufacturers constantly fuck up the default voltage settings!  Exhibit A being early gen asus x99 boards pumping 2v through cpus and killing loads of them on (you guessed it) stock settings.  How about all the z390 boards with entirely different Tjmax, voltage and allowed power draws?  Or maybe the time every manufacturer ever did their own little fucky thing with voltage controls and auto boost weirdness.  
 
Lowering vcore isn't going to hurt a CPU, worst case scenario OP gets some black screens, resets the bios and ups the score a little bit to correct for going too low

While the way @5x5 said it wasn't the way I'd have said it, what he said was true. Update the BIOS, install the latest chipset driver and leave it alone. Trying to manually override AMDs settings will hurt performance more than help it (thats a lesson I learned the hard way).
 
Edit - Also avoid using NZXTs CAM software
 

Remember that I said "high voltage for single core workload"? You cant get more single threaded and light than moving the mouse around.
 
Ryzen's power management focuses on turning off parts of the core rather than lowering voltage to save power (like Intel does), so auto settings pretty much doesnt lower voltage. I recall Zen and Zen+ capable of dropping voltage when literally doing nothing (background tasks disabled as many as possible, no mouse movements) so maybe Zen 2 can do that as well.

with Ryzen CPUs the most common cause of memory errors in testing and applications is too little SOC voltages. Try upping your SOC voltage to 1.1v and test. You are safe to go up to 1.2v for 24/7 operations. 

It is treated the same as a 10 bpc display.
 
https://forums.tomshardware.com/threads/does-asus-make-a-27-1440p-10bit-monitor.3270479/#post-20376746

Is it just your PC that is disconnecting from the internet?  Have you checked it's not actually your router that's disconnected?
 
If it's just your PC that's disconnecting and when that happens you can still access the internet from other devices etc and the logs show no disconnects, then it's most likely a PC problem. I can see you have tried some of the usual "fixes". Another thing you can do is delete your network adapter from your devices and re-install... first make sure you have up to date drivers handy though, just in case you need them.
 
There are some more things you can try here  https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/10741/windows-10-fix-network-connection-issues
 
But my bet is on the network adaptor uninstall/re-install fixing it.

The GPU limited, but I think you have a great chip, few cards get close to 2200mhz. 

RAZER DeathAdder 3.5G , SteelSeries Rival 100

You can disable them and you can also make them dimmer.
 

DAMN! That's beast for first gen. Core CPU! And that's a very nice bump after going Win10! What MoBo are you using?

You know what I mean—ancient in tech years! Haha. And yeah, I agree, it still rocks! I wont' give it up until it burns on me.