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  1. genghisquan
    Yes, 5700XT is your best bet, but, for the love of all that is cool, please look at tear-down videos. I can't believe that we still have to deal with poor memory and VRM cooling in 2020, but that's totally a thing with some cards.
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    Yeah, I definitely think the 5700XT is worth it for 1440p. I don't think it'll give you 120+ FPS at max settings, but nobody should expect that kind of FPS outside of e-sports titles. If you're not afraid, then get a 5700 with good cooling and dual BIOS and then flash an XT bios onto it.
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    Not to resurrect an old thread, but I just wanted to give an update for anyone who might be experiencing similar RAM issues. After upping the SOC voltage, the system seemed to boot more consistently, but a few days later, I was still getting random BSODs during web browsing and watching videos on YouTube. Once again, I ran MemTest and came up with multiple errors. I got an RMA from G. Skill after citing MemTest errors. I haven't gotten any issues with the new RAM kit since.
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    Sorry, not sure if this belongs in General Discussion or another section, but I just have a question about RMA: Do all companies make you (the consumer) pay for any return costs for an RMA? I only ask because I've only had to RMA two things in my life, a Corsair PSU and recently a G.Skill RAM kit, and both companies didn't cover the return costs. In contrast, I've made returns to retailers, and they've always covered the return costs (shipping, restocking, recycling fees, etc). It's odd to me that the consumer has to pay more money on top of the original cost when they received a defective product.
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    Yeah, I figured it wasn't reporting it correctly at all. And yeah, I did look at HWinfo at first, but there's no label for VDDP, so I wasn't sure which one I was supposed to look at.
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    I've tried to Google what exactly VDDP voltage is, and I don't really understand it from the descriptions. Can someone help me understand what this voltage is? And more importantly, why is mine 0.0V?
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    I currently have my system on "Auto" vcore as suggested by a few people early in the thread. I went thru a full day of work with no performance issues, thermal issues, or BSODs (I mean...not that graphic design on Adobe apps would ever be super heavy workloads or anything). It's reaching 1.33-1.36V during load. Should I still be concerned?
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    I could've sworn I quoted you in my screenshot earlier today. But yeah, I misquoted the video—it said 1.35V, not 1.36V. Regardless, I think there should be an updated Zen 2 architecture overview video for people like me.
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    Ah, good. A 3600X owner. Thanks for the relevant comment. So that's weird that you can get a higher core frequency while using a lower vcore. This boggles my mind.
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    For sure. I never apply constant voltage to anything 24/7, but I wanted to apply a constant voltage because I erroneously thought that the voltage fluctuation was causing consistent performance.
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    OH, BTW, I'm not running PBO, which is why the 1.36V on all-core load is concerning me.
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    Ok, that's sorta good to hear. I find the GUI of Ryzen Master too cluttered and confusing. I'll stick to adjustments in UEFI/BIOS.
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    I don't even know what's the proper method for voltage control at this point. People recommend Ryzen Master, but others say it's too complicated / unnecessary. Albeit, Cinebench is an extremely stressful program, and I don't think I ever hit my CPU that hard during gaming / Adobe app usage.
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    God damn it. Now I'm worried that the auto setting is pumping too high of a vcore during all-core load!
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    Thanks for your input (as another 3600 owner). Yeah, I'm seeing the same ~1.36V under all-core load. And like you, I'm also reading/hearing a lot of conflicting info regarding Ryzen voltages...that's why I tried to undervolt in the first place.
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    Right. I tried to lower it from 1.36V because I saw from LTT's Ryzen overclocking video that it's the upper limit for vcore. Prior to tonight, I didn't know that it's normal for burst voltages to reach 1.4V!
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    Haha, I actually remembered this and rewatched it when @Jurrunio mentioned clock stretching. As shown in GN's video, performance dropped significantly from the 1.0V vcore while the GHz were the reported as normal. That's why my situation confused me because my results were the inverse; i.e, slightly lowered vcore actually increased my all core frequency and raised my cinebench scores by 250 pts. And yeah, I'm trying settings on auto right now. I was just initially afraid that those vcore spikes were a little too high. Given Zen 2 being so new, I'm hearing so many conflicting information regarding all its settings.
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    Thanks for your replies and recommendation. I'm using current BIOS and chipset driver versions. I'll try auto settings.
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    Hey, thanks for you reply. My SOC voltage was already at 1.1V this wole time. I tried setting it to 1.16V, and everything booted up just fine multiple times the next day. Thanks for your help!
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    I'm asking for help on forums to try to learn and understand how my system works. I never claimed to be smarter than you or the engineers at AMD. Where are you getting that notion?
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    Oh, thanks. I'll just stop messing around with performance parts and tuning. You're such a big help. LOL.
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    So what should I be doing to keep my voltage at a good level under load but allow it to drop when idle or low load? It's confusing because I saw the vcore at 1.45V (on auto mode) when in UEFI. Why would that voltage be sustained that high when there's no load on the system?
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    OK, so when I first built this b450 + Ryzen 3600 system, the vcore was at 1.45V when it was set to auto! Obviously that's a little too high, since the recommended upper limit for vcore voltages are between 1.3-1.35V. After overriding the vcore and dropping it down to a constant 1.36V, the performance & temps were as expected. However, I don't want a constant voltage and want it to be able to adjust to the CPU loads. This is where things get weird because changing the vcore to an offset mode (that kept the load voltage at 1.36V) resulted in the worst performance in Cinebench r20; i.e, ~3250 pts. My CPU never went above base clock (3.6 GHz all cores) at this point. I switched back to auto vcore, but now the BIOS set the vcore to just 1.1V! WHY? What does auto even do? So after that, I went back to the override voltage, keeping it at the constant 1.36V that it was at previously...Cinebench score instantly went up 100 pts (up to 3350 pts). The CPU boosted up to 3.7-3.8 GHz (all cores) during the benchmark. WHY? What's the difference between offset and constant voltage performance?! It also gets weirder because going back to a voltage offset (NEGATIVE offset this time) resulted in a vcore of 1.28V during load. Now the CPU boosted to around 3.974 GHz (all cores) during Cinebench run. Except now the score is around 3500 pts!!! Throughout all of these tests, using all these different voltages, my CPU never even touched 72ºC at the highest load voltage. So I don't think the performance was being thermal-throttled. WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON WITH RYZEN VOLTAGES & PERFORMANCE?! Please help me understand what's going on and figure out what voltage setting I should be using.
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    My system has been crashing at the login screen or immediately after login ever since I first built it. I've tried reinstalling the RAM modules, ran SFC, and of course cleared any SSD errors. Got this error during memtest86. Facts: New system with fresh OS RAM kit is G.Skill Ripjaws V 16GB (8GB x 2), 3200 MHz, 16-18-18-38 DOCP profile sets the DRAM voltage at 1.36V with it hitting 1.37V under gaming loads No CPU, FCLK, or RAM OC RAM kit is on QVL of MSI B450-A Pro MAX Should I even try undervolting the RAM or just get a replacement?
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