robodude666

Hmm. I'm seeing the Ryzen 3600 selling for $159 and Ryzen 3100 for $109 (where in stock). Regardless of CPU, should I be concerned about a new chipset from AMD? Thanks, -robodude666

Well, I'd only be replacing the CPU in 3 months. Which I'm sure I could sell a 3600 easily.

Budget (including currency): $2500-3500 USD Country: 'Murica Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Gaming 30% / Software Development 70% I've mostly been playing Final Fantasy 14 lately, but want to play Borderlands 3, Halo MC, and Cyberpunk 2077. Other details: My current PC has been feeling dated for a while: Intel Core i5-4690k @ 4.3 GHz ASUS STRIX GTX 970 ASUS Z97-A Corsair Vengeance LP 8 GB (2 x 4 GB) DDR3 1600Mhz Samsung EVO 850 500 GB Fractal Design Define R5 Noctua NH-D15 Corsair RM650 I was thinking of holding out for Ryzen 4000 and Big Navi / RTX 3000, but was wondering if doing a 2-part upgrade might be a better idea. What do ya'll think? This month I'd get: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 w/ Wraith Stealth ASUS ROG Strix X570-E Gaming Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 64 GB (4 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Corsair MP600 1 TB Lian Li PC-011 Dynamic XL And carry over the GPU & PSU from my current PC. Then later this year I get: CPU: something equivalent to the 3900X/3950X from 4000 series, GPU: something capable of at least 4k @ 60Hz or 1440p @ 144Hz, PSU: SeaSonic PRIME TX 1000W (hoping PSU prices would get better by Q4), and a custom hard line water cooling loop + RGB. I'd also want to upgrade my monitor (currently using a $250 43" LG 4k TV), but haven't found any 43" 4k monitors that I like. I'm concerned AMD would release a X670 chipset which I'd want, but besides native thunderbolt and fanless chipset I don't think I'd want anything. Maybe it'd be better to get an $80 B550 now? Thoughts? Thanks, -robodude666

FWIW, I found this great article on bit-tech: http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2012/02/10/the-big-cooling-investigation/1 I will probably be looking at getting two intake fans for the front, and a top/rear exhaust fan. I'll also get a spare fan that I'll try to use as a side fan or an additional top exhaust. Based on the massive volume difference between 120mm and 140mm, I will more than likely be going with 140mm fans.

I've used Invision Power Board for over a decade; the search is just fine. It's not as good as vBadvanced, but it's good enough. Considering LMG is paying hundreds of dollars a year, they'd be able to get support to have it setup properly to the point it works. Just because the built-in search might not be as good as you'd like it to be doesn't disqualify you from going to google.com and searching for something yourself. -robodude666

I understand there may have previously been issues with IP.Board's built-in search, but search via google is very limited. No ability to search for specific author. No ability to search just titles, OP's message, or all bodies. No ability to search based on tags. No ability to search in specific boards. If people don't like the results provided by the built-in search, they can go on google and search there themselves; no need to have lmgtfy built into the forums.

Pay off debt.

What kind of change in temperatures do you see when you turn off the front fans, bottom fans, or top fans?

Howdy, I recently built a new system in a Fractal Define R5, and while my OC'd Core i5 4670k and ASUS GTX 970 STRIX temperatures are fairly normal (30 C CPU and 40 C GPU) at idle and under load (45 C CPU and 70 C GPU) at 23 C ambient... I do want some additional airflow. For reference I have a Noctua NH-D15, and an ASUS motherboard w/ Fan Expert being used. I am currently looking at either Noctua or Corsair fans; while I don't mind Noctua's color scheme their price is a bit high IMHO. As you may already know, the R5 supports 120/140mm fans: One rear One side Two front Two bottom Three top For me, as I have the system sitting on the carpet floor the bottom fans aren't usable. I also want to keep the top three vents closed (though may consider opening the rear one) to reduce dust/noise. I'm thinking of getting: 1x rear "air flow" optimized fan, 1x side "air flow" optimized fan, 1x front "air flow" optimized fan (top fan with HDD cage removed), 1x front "static pressure" optimized fan (for bottom fan in front of HDD cage). Performance wise: Is the side fan worth populating? Would a side fan help much, or is it not worth $20-30? I removed the vent cover and the GPU temps dropped ~2-3 C. Hoping a fan might help more. Specs wise, 140mm fans provide in some cases almost double the CFM as a 120mm fan. Is that visible in the real world? Am I just wasting my money and don't need to change my fans (2x stock fractal fines + 2x Noctua fans on heatsink)? Thanks, -robodude666

I still want to hear 3 reasons why socks and sandals are the optimal footwear.

Yup. I submitted an RMA request and shipped the card back. Just got a replacement today. Both fans stop spinning under 60c like they're supposed to. Thanks, -robodude666

@Darkman, yes. One fan is running at 100% no matter what. I'm sitting right now on my desktop with Chrome open and it's spinning at 100%... The other fan isn't even moving.

Howdy, I just built a new computer using an ASUS GTX 970 STRIX card. I got this card because of the cooler design being able to stay off under low load. Unfortunately... one of the fans stays running at 100%. Both fans spin up to full speed on bootup, but the fan closer to the front stops spinning right away while the fan to the left, closer to the rear of the case, keeps spinning at 100%. I'm able to view in MSI Afterburning the RPM of the fans being set to 0%. I can set the fan speed to 40%, for example, and see both fans spinning -- the rear fan spinning obviously faster and louder. From what I've read, this seems to be a known issue for MSI cards; however, I haven't read anything about a solution. I examined the card and all fan connections look intact. I just got the computer, so I'm hoping to avoid an RMA and waiting weeks without a video card . -robodude666

Not to highjack the topic, but what if we're talking about 4k 60hz vs 1440p 60hz vs 1080p 144hz?

On my current iMac, I can set the video settings to low and set the resolution to 720p... get about ~60 FPS on average, but get dips to ~2-5 FPS for 5-10 seconds at a time while going combat logging or auction house scanning. I'm hoping that's because I have a measly 2.7 GHz processor now, and maybe upgrading to a 3.5GHz+ OC'd i5 would help. Regarding PSUs, yes... sitting at 30% load isn't optimal. The 80+ standard has PSUs designed for maximum efficiency at 50% load. What would be a lower-cost supply that has a fanless under low noise mode, is modular, and is 80+ GOLD or better?