Yes, me too. I was literally just about to post something else. I can't help but blame myself for expediting GodlyGamer's arrival, though. T_T
OT: I just want a 4.00 GPA in college this semester, to prove to my parents and the people who gave me scholarships that what they gave to me was worth it.
A camping trip with family and friends. $1k can make a memorable trip the experience of a lifetime if done properly. Last year I had the experience of hiking all the way up to Bishop Pass, just north of Mount Whitney. It was all worth it:
I may not look like much, but it was the experience of a lifetime. Not many people get to see lakes at 12,000 Feet in elevation or basically feel like they're at the top of the world. Considering we drove to our campsite, camped for 3 days, and also hiked to the top, it was quite impressive to say the least. This may not be everyone's forte, and it is serious work hiking with a pack, but if my uncles' fiance can do it, and my sister made it, I think its doable for a lot of people. Most people don't get to enjoy the natural beauty we have in this world.
So with that, I'd like to leave off with a quote from John Muir (and coincidentally, the trial we hiked on):
"Everybody needs beauty as well as bread, places to play in and pray in, where nature may heal and give strength to body and soul alike."
I would change the ssd to the mx100 from crucial, the m500 is not really the nest ssd. The mx100 is similar in price, but better in performance. You could also try the bx100 from crucial.
Okay guys there wasn’t a thread about a pc building guide, from planning to installation and so on. So if anyone needs more details please PM me or post on here, I will go as in-depth as I know. From finding the right parts to right to the end, if I make an error please feel free to correct me as I’m a bit tired. I will also go through what you should choose depending on what you are using it for. So if you’re a first time builder or a many time builder have a read, this may help you on your next build. I hope to get this into a pinned post :~D Reading time about 30mins!
Chapter 1.1 budgeting
Okay when you are considering building a pc you have to have a good long think on what is your budget, and what are you using it for? I think if your budget is $400 or under for just the tower alone, I think you should buy a pre-built one from your closet computer store e.g. Curry’s, Pc world. Okay so you have decided what you are using the pc for. If you’re looking for an average gaming rig (no peripherals or monitors) your looking between £600-£2000 that’s just an average, an editing rig would be again from £600 to about £1500 a mining rig I have seen go between £700 and £6500. So you have a rough idea on what sort of price you’re looking at, again I say this is an average, there will be lower there will be higher. The process is the same for all types of computer.
Chapter 1.2 do your research
So you have a budget that is great. One of the most important processes in the whole build, but you needs to remember to stick to your budget otherwise you end up spending too much money on something different to what you planned. You are starting to look for parts, the best thing is to do is read many reviews on pc parts on the linustechtips website; they will inform you on the pros and cons of all of them. You have a few choices in makes and models in all computer parts and you need to take that into consideration. Also you tube is a great website for reviews!
Chapter 1.3 start planning
Okay so you have done your research and you have a rough idea on parts, go on the PCPartPicker website and start picking parts. This is what it should look like when completed (its just an example)
GPU
Okay with a gaming and mining rig, this is the main piece this is most likely going to be the most expensive part to your whole build, when you start choosing your Graphics card you want to choose between AMD or NVidia, these are the main two makes of graphics cards. Again do you research whether you want to take advantage or NVidia’s drivers or AMD? AMD is a popular choice among miners and with gamers its personal choice. AMD has OpenCL which is great for mining. If you want more than one graphics card in your computer this is possible too. If you have chosen AMD e.g. the R9 series you can use CrossfireX which is a ribbon cable that goes from one graphics card to the other(s) you can crossfire a graphics card with 1,2,3 other cards. Same with NVidia but you use SLI. You can’t have an AMD and NVidia crossfires or sli’d to each other, if you want 2 different GPU’s in one system you have to run them signally. You can only sli or crossfire the same gpu to the same gpu. In a mining rig you will most likely have a few gpu’s. when searching for a graphics card in a gaming rig it should take about 30%-%50 or your whole budget, a mining rig they should take %50-%70 of your budget with a editing rig should only use %20-%30 of your budget. You also get different amounts of Vram higher the better e.c.t 4gb,3gb… you get the idea. You also get different speeds. Try get as much size and highest speed you can for your budget be careful don’t blow your whole budget on a GPU.
CPU
Okay this is a bit simpler, you only have 2 different companies who make cpu’s. AMD and Intel. Although AMD tend to have better speeds and more cores, they don’t work as well in the real world as they do on paper, as no games at the time of writing this essay guide thing take advantage of all 8 cores. AMD is more budget based computers. Intel on the other hand are more expensive but are the popular choice upon gamers, miners and editors. I am not a fan boy of either side I am quite happy with a CPU from any side. Its more personal choice. You get different speeds different amount of cores and hyper threading which only Intel use! at the moment cores do not really matter as most programs only use a single core. Try and get as good speeds as you can for your budget, also if you can afford it get hyper threading! A CPU for a gaming rig should use about %5-%15 of your budget, a miner %5-%20 and finally a editing rig should be about %15-%30. Again these are expensive parts.
Motherboard
This is were the price goes down a bit now you just have to think what you want, you want sata 6gb/s ports and usb 3, the motherboard doesn’t change performance, so it isn’t a big deal in all computers it should be roughly %10 or your budget. And make sure you get the same socket of motherboard as you got of the CPU. And choose a size between ATX, mATX, mITX, eATX. ATX being the most popular. (Choosing parts gets easier and cheaper from here)
RAM
With a gaming and a mining rig the ram isn’t a big deal which again should take about %10 of your budget. But with an editing rig ram is one of the main things and should take about %30 of your budget. You get different models of ram, most used is a DDR 3 nowadays, servers and enterprise systems usually use DDR 2 or DDR 1. But DDR 4 is just comming over the horizon! So the motherboard you chose most likely accepts DDR 3. So make sure you choose that. Gaming and mining and editing rigs you want to get the highest speed possible so you ideally want about 1600mhz. mining and gaming the storage doesn’t greatly matter but again try and get and get the highest amount possible, with an editing rig you want between 16GB and 64GB although 64GB is expensive it is well worth it! But that’s just stupidly expensive. And an important note that some people miss, buying expensive ram that looks good, with the same specs as cheaper ram does not make a difference.
Storage
This is just personal choice, but some very good advice that most tech enthusiasts will agree, spend the extra money and get a good make with a long warrantee, as these are the most temperamental parts in your rig, I would recommend anyone who is building a rig to get a SSD as a boot drive as this will increase the booting speed dramatically. SSD’s are great for reading information but when it comes to writing information, it can eventually start to damage you drive. But if you bought a small SSD you also need space to store things. Buy a HDD a few TB should do the trick make sure it SATA 3 for the best red/write speeds!!! When you buy a hdd you really want a 7200RPM. Again editor, gamer and miner should have a SSD and a HDD. This should take about 7% of your budget
Power Supply
Okay this is a bit harder to explain this one, if you get all you parts and put them on PCpartpicker in the top left hand corner it should give you an estimate. It is always better to get more Watts than you need. Not less. Okay ill try help a bit this is an average a gaming a Intel cpu, Gigabyte motherboard, 8gb of ram, 1 ssd and 1 hdd, gigabyte GeForce 770 is 433watts its good to get 600W in case you ever want to upgrade, and finally you get none modular, semi modular, and fully modular. Modular means you can take the wires out that you don’t need, i guess you can work out what semi modular and none modular means. i would recommend corsairs line of PSU's and a modular one! again about 15% of your budget!
Case
Just personal choice make sure you buy one that is the same size as your motherboard e.g. ATX, make sure you get one with the right size bays for the stuff that you have bought so if you have bought a 3 1/2 inch drive then you want a place to store it in your case! pricing is all up to you!
Other parts
CPU cooler, you have a few options, Enclosed water loop like a corsair H100i. you get a fully custom loop, which is very expensive and you get air cooling, do your research on all 3 for first time builders I recommend air cooling. So for the purpose of this essay I will be explaining air cooling (passive cooling) if you want me to explain water-cooling please say and I will.
Thermal compound, this is completely your choice but the best one I have used is IC diamond which has actual diamonds in it and gives you better results. Again it’s all choice!! but i would recommend not using the stuff that comes with your CPU!
Fans, silent are the best but do you want it to be quite or loud, you get better results on Noctua fans and they are silent they are about £12 each. make sure you buy the right size fans for your case. you get a huge range of different sized fans. double check on your case manufactures website to check how many more fans you need and what size!
Dust filter. This again is choice buy a magnetic one they stop the dust being sucked in by the fans. Monitors and peripherals are all personal choice and doesn’t really matter too much on what you choose.
if your buying a monitor then realisticly you would benifit from IPS, which gives richer colours and better veiwing angles! also use display port if possible. if not use HDMI!
Chapter 1.4 concluding planning
Okay so you have chosen the parts you want to use great now buy them :~D, when you receive them keep them safe and don’t drop them, examine the parts for defects.
Chapter 2 building the pc
Okay so this is pretty much the same for gamers, editors, miners.
Okay first you want to unbox your motherboard from its box. place the motherboard on top of the motherboard box, don't place it on the antistatic bag as it can short connections and pins! You also want to buy a anti-static wristband, put it around your ankle and ground it to something. you can buy grounding plugs that plug into your wall socket there not to expensive! If you have some spare money buy a anti static mat! but you don't need that just keep grounding yourself to the case! The best place to build a pc is on your kitchen worktop with tiled floors.
Right anyway back on with the build . you have your motherboard on the motherboard box. My advice is to build the pc outside of the case and then disassemble and put it in the case, to make sure all the parts work. Okay take the CPU out of the box and take the CPU cover of your motherboard and put it in the MOBO box for safe storage.
Never hold the bottom of the CPU, always hold it by the sides, and align the gold corner on the CPU to the one on the motherboard, and slowly place the CPU in the socket of the motherboard. Give it a little wriggle and pull the safety catch arm on the motherboard over the CPU, this will require a bit of strength but don’t be scared.
Okay I guess you don’t want to use the stock cooler. Get your cooler you are using and get some rubbing alcohol 97% or more, and rub it on the top of the CPU and on the bottom of the CPU cooler, to make sure it is clean. Then get your Thermal compound and put about the size of a pea down the centre of your CPU.
then seat the cooler on it and wriggle with little pressure, to make sure there is no compound spillage over the edge if there is clean it up. Then fasten the cooler to the board with help from the instruction manual for the cooler.
Okay now take out your ram sticks find your RAM slots and line up the ram and make sure its the right way round! ( they will only go in one way round) push the tabs on either side down! and slot in your ram and apply pressure! now put your motherboard aside.
Now we are going to prepare the case for the motherboard. if your case came with the stand off's pre installed check make sire there aligned, if not put them in by hand, you dont need to use a spanner! Okay if you got an optical drive slide that into 5.5 inch rack at the top and secure that with the screws that came with the case or the optical drive
Same with your hard drives and your solid state drives, don’t clump them together it’s good to keep them as far apart as possible to give it room to radiate heat.
Okay now get your power supply and work out which way is best to bolt it if there is a hole for air flow at the bottom make sure the heat exsausts through there you dont want hot air blowing on your GPU! and secure it with the 4ish bolts included with the case.
Go into your motherboard box and get the rear IO shield and carefully secure that in place, no screw are needed for that.
Now your fans, work out which ones you want to exhaust heat (pull ) and which ones should suck it in (Push) you want really 1 Pull which is the back exhaust and the 2 others Push, until you are ready to learn and swap the orientations of the fans. Okay now screw them in.
Okay now most things are in your case, you need to install the GPU, unbox it then choose a PCI-E slot that's not going to blow hot air on not many components unscrew the PCI-E cover on the case simply slot the GPU in the PCI-e slot and screw the back of the GPU into the case!
now route the cables to the correct places like the 24pin to the motherboard and each cable only has one place where it can go . now is a great opportunity to explain cable management! cable management has to be done its extremely tedious i would recommend using twist wire that you get from your PSU and cables that you accumulate! and tie them together if they go to a similar place! use the rubber groves to route wires, this should achieve better airflow!
Okay now put all the fan cables into the correct places on the motherboard, plug in your GPU(s) into the pci-e slot(s) and put the cables needed in. now get your sata cables and plug them into your motherboard and into your drives. And any other cables consult the manual(s).
Chapter 3
Right okay you have the pc built great, now you need to install an os, we are going to install windows 7 The first step is to place your Windows 7 DVD into the DVD tray and boot the machine. Your computer needs to be configured to boot from DVD/USB. This is done via BIOS. On most computers, the BIOS menu can be accessed by pressing either the F2 or Del keys while the machine is booting. Once you have completed this stage, Windows 7 will start loading. After a few moments, you will reach the installation menu. Your first step is to choose the language and the keyboard. You will be now taken to the Install now menu. so you can click Install now and proceed.
The next step is to accept the licence agreement, then click custom. The next step is to choose where you want to install Windows 7. This is probably the most important part of the entire installation, so you need to be very careful here and make the right choices. Inexperienced users can simply highlight the unallocated space and click Next. You now have the option to create new partitions, format them with a desired file system, change the size of existing or newly created partition (Extend), or delete them. The Load Driver function is usually necessary if you want to create more complex setups like RAID, but this is currently beyond the scope of this tutorial.
We will create a new partition. According to official system requirements, Windows 7 needs 16GB of free space. However, you can do with less. The minimum recommended space for a partition where you want to place Windows 7 is 10350MB. Eventually, the installation itself will take approx. 7GB. Make sure you have enough space and install it to the SSDWindows 7 installer will now tell you that it will have to create an additional partition for the core system files. This will be a small primary partition ahead of your newly created one. We now have a system partition and a primary partition, plus some free space. In purely technical terms, there is no such thing as a partition of the type system. There are only two types of partitions: primary and logical. The above-mentioned partition is a primary partition.
If you're using ONLY Windows 7 to create a partition layout on your system, then you should just create a partition with a sufficient size to hold the Windows 7 data files and nothing else. The system partition will be added. Leave the handling of any unpartitioned, free space after the installation. If you're comfortable with your setup, highlight the created partition and click Next. Windows 7 will be installed to this partition. Depending on your hardware, this can take some time. During the installation, your computer may restart several times. Let it be.
Eventually, you will be asked to provide your username and a computer name. You will also have to password-protect your account. This is most advisable. You should opt for a strong password. Then get your activation key and type it in You will be asked to configure your updates. You can choose either setting you like. However, I recommend you configure this choice later, after Windows 7 is installed and running properly. Configure your time zone. Your location will determine the firewall settings for your newly installed Windows 7.
You have three choices: home, work or public network. Home and work networks are supposed to be trusted, so you should not experience any problems adding other machines to your group or sharing data with them. However, the public network is meant to be untrusted. So if you have installed Windows 7 in, let's say, Internet cafe, then you should choose the third option.
All done
Okay now go download your favourite programs, but make sure you Google all your part names and models and download the drivers for the part.
then dont even think about x99... the boards and chips are expensive, the ram is expensive, and then you wouldn't have money for a decent graphics card.
Here's how I masked mine. Only painted the tip fin. There was no performance decrease. Silver is visible on the short sides but the fans cover the rest! I used "Rust-oleum Flat Protective Enamel" in matte black.
I masked the copper pipes with electrical tape. That was pretty hard. The copper and fin will easily scratch if you bump them with an exacto knife. Take your time!
I used some tape upside down on the top fin then cut the approximate size of the cooler to fit through and then taped the other side of the newspaper. I took the rest and just wrapped it around the cooler making sure it was all covered.
-Should I hit him with the stats?
-No, don't do it, you over use it.
-But how will he ever know the truth?
-But you're spamming!
-But he must see the light! Hit it!
People think they are getting a good deal when they buy an FX for gaming, and they are not.
If you enjoy games like MMOs(ArcheAge, WoW, Guild Wars2, World of Tanks, Planetside2 etc..) DayZ, ARMA2, ARMA3, Dead Rising 3, Indies, RTS, Emulators, etc.. the FX will fall WAY behind the equally priced Intel processors making them unplayable(at least by my standards), sometimes even dropping to 15-20fps when the action starts.
Then there are other games that are playable, but no where near as fluid as they would be on Intel. A few examples are: Starcraft, Skyrim, Civilization V, Assassin's Creed, etc..
Then there are a lot of games where the FX will perform similar to Intel, provided you're using a 60Hz Monitor and don't see the bottleneck happening.
I was using this CPU with my GTX780 beginning this year and my GPU was getting bottlenecked by this overclocked FX CPU as much as 45% in some games and on average i would say around 20 to 30% was common...
these CPU's are old and inefficient...AMD still has them on the market because they don't have anything better but the architcture for those cpu's was developped about 5 years ago with server purposes in mind
and even at launch they where a bad choice for games, the IPC on these is abysmal and most games won't run well with such CPU and your R9 290 will be chocked by this CPU most of the time...
a 3ghz core i5 from my experience poking around my bios, disabling hyper-threading and lowering the clockspeed as proved to be a much better gaming CPU and my GTX 780 was getting a mouthful in every games
even with a 3ghz i5...it was also running much smoother while consuming a lot less energy.
Don't be fooled by the numbers...clockspeed and number of ''cores'' won't mean jack when a CPU has that poor IPC...also what AMD call a ''core'' is in fact a ''module'' and the FX-8350 only has 4 ''modules''
so it's in fact a quad-core...it should be compared with a 2GHZ core i5, nothing more and nothing less...and if you look at benchmark you will realise that even a core i3 run's most games better than
an highly overclocked FX chip.
The FX CPU's are good for multi-threaded loads on budget, for example someone who is doing mostly video rendering, modeling, photo editing...things of that nature and don't want to invest in a core i7...
but for gaming rig it's a VERY bad choice...if you are too short on cash just get an athlon 860K and a cheap FM2 motherboard instead and you will get the same results in gaming...all of those AMD CPU's
are not meant to be paired with top tier GPU like an R9 290, sorry.
Check that...this is a modern multi-threaded games that uses all the ''cores'' from the AMD FX...and you can see a core i3 performing better than the FX-9590@4.7GHZ
Proof that this game is multi-threaded and use all the ''cores'' and should run well on the AMD FX and not at 50FPS with GTX980 in SLI:
NCIX:
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Radeon GPUs here in the Philippines is so overpriced! I think I can include that in my build if there is only a sale here.
I mean for future proofing like 2-3 years, shouldn't I get a z97? I don't know the lifespan of computer components, because the last time I've own a PC is about 13 years ago.
I'm from Sampaloc, Manila. The 700-800USD Build here in the forum or in the internet is about 1000-1200 USD on us! Storage is the most op component on our country.
I'll take a look with that build. Thanks mate!
Why did you pick 500w psu? shouldn't it be 700w?
A Hyper 212 evo will do fine for overclocking either, so I'd go with the 8320 just cause you can do other things besides gaming (and only two threaded gaming at that)
Again with the AM3 if you're going to get a video card later on, don't buy a brand new 240. Go on eBay or local kijiji for Toronto and find a used video card like an 8800GT that'll be half the price of a new 240 and will actually perform noticeably better.
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