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The Journey to Health

Jtalk4456

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I have failed traditional weight loss. Mostly as others due to lack of motivation and commitment. Diet is not horrible, but not great. I never took the initiative to learn to cook as a kid, even though my mom cooked constantly. So when college came around and I was free reign, I didn't take care of myself. It's taken years of mistakes to learn to manage myself better, but damage is done. 

The reason I'm writing this is two fold. 

1. If I expose it to criticism, I have to face it head on. I will be dealing with it, thinking about it, seeing reactions if any. Also it will help me keep up with it in general.

2. I've seen many talk about trying to lose weight and I want to share my experience and hope it helps others

 

The Current Situation:

I'm currently 325 lbs and 6' 2.5". I eat far too much meat, cheese and bread, and barely any veggies and fruits. While my height means I'm not too round looking, it is noticeable and between rashes and chaffing and belt imprints, I am feeling the effects. I have 4 kids and don't feel like I can play with them as much as I should.

 

The Goal:

Ideally I want to get back to 200, but I'd settle for 220. Breaking the goal down, my first goal is to get under 300, then work from there to 275, and so on.

 

The Methodology:

I get bored EASILY. running on a treadmill is very tough to be motivated with. I don't have a lot of time and I have 4 kids at home. Pretty much everything will have to be in house. My current approach is using Beat Saber VR and other vr games whenever I get a rift come tax return. Along with eating healthy, lots of water, and a little pedal that goes under the desk (as soon as I actually remember to take it to work), I hope I can start losing weight slowly but steadily.

I will try to post the number daily, but I might just do it weekly. I will be describing any significant choices I've made and how things effect me. I don't know if anyone will be reading all this nonsense, but I want to give as much information as possible.

 

The Conclusion:

*the thought of doing exercise and being motivated and eating healthy gave Jtalk4456 a stroke*

The End XD

Cya tomorrow

(Don't do drugs, kids!)

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Two things.  Get your music player/phone.  Add a bunch of Eurobeat and DBZ music = profit.

 

No seriously thats what worked for me and keeping me from being bored on the treadmill hearing the DBZ guitar get goin or the Initial D music drop instant adrenaline rush and boost to motivation.

 

Also while you're trying to lose weight figure in weight lifting people underestimate how much energy is really burned off lifting weights plus for guys it is a good boost for testosterone which has its positive effects especially for weight loss

 

Consider a supplement of Vitamin C nothing complicated just a basic Vitamin C pill.  Not only good for your immune system but helps counteracts the effects of cortisol (comes from stress) which can make weight loss difficult. 

 

 

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If you don't mind I can share things that have helped me. It won't fit with everyone but these things have certainly helped me.

 

I used to eat tuna, little caesar's pizza, and ramen noodles exclusively. This wasn't because I didn't like other food but because I never had the energy to cook other food and I didn't know much about cooking good foods in a way that wasn't time consuming and frustrating. My biggest recommendation to anyone who wants to eat healthier but isn't the worlds best chef is to buy a wok or some other large pan.

 

It has be unbelievably easy to make meals now, all I do it chop up any combination of veggies and or meat and then you just toss it in the pan with a tiny bit of oil. It doesn't take more than just a couple of minutes to cook and it is easy peasy. Having the big pan makes you feel like a pro too so that is fun. Some of my favorite things to toss in the wok in no particular order are: broccoli, carrots, mushrooms, onion, celery, chopped chicken, chopped beef, bamboo shoots or really anything else. Stir fry meals are really easy and super filling. You can also boil some noodles in another pan and then after they are done and strained you can toss the noodles into the wok with whatever else you happen to be making and it will make a really tasty noodley meal, rice is great too and works just as well. I have done this will dozens of combinations of foods and I have yet to see it turn out badly.

 

Sauces can be a lot of fun to make too. They are surprisingly simple and can spice up the flavor a bit too. I would be happy to share some of my favorites if anyone is interested.

 

I guess what I'm getting at is that it is really nice to have one kitchen utensil that you can go to to make a huge variety of food. You really can toss anything you want in it and make it taste good and have fun while making it.

 

 

Another thing that has helped me a lot is that I go on more walks now. It kinda sucks sometimes during the winter time but on warmer days or during the summer it can be really fun to go walking. Me and my wife often walk from our apartment down a hill a mile or so to the nearby village and while the walk itself isn't terribly exciting it is nice to have some time to get fresh air and talk. We also play Pokemon Go a lot and even though the game is pretty simple it is a nice way to keep my mind off of the fact that I don't want to half to walk back up the hill to get home. It gives you a hint of an extra reason to walk to the places you are walking too.

 

Like any exercise walking can kind of suck at first but it is one of those things that sucks less the more you do it. I quickly found myself going on walks because I wanted to and I enjoyed them, a nice transition from going on them because I was out of shape and felt like I had to.

 

Like I said, this isn't going to be the solution for everyone but I thought I'd share some of my experiences.

 

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10 minutes ago, LordOTaco said:

Two things.  Get your music player/phone.  Add a bunch of Eurobeat and DBZ music = profit.

 

No seriously thats what worked for me and keeping me from being bored on the treadmill hearing the DBZ guitar get goin or the Initial D music drop instant adrenaline rush and boost to motivation.

 

Also while you're trying to lose weight figure in weight lifting people underestimate how much energy is really burned off lifting weights plus for guys it is a good boost for testosterone which has its positive effects especially for weight loss

 

Consider a supplement of Vitamin C nothing complicated just a basic Vitamin C pill.  Not only good for your immune system but helps counteracts the effects of cortisol (comes from stress) which can make weight loss difficult. 

 

 

I've tried the music trick, and it makes it a bit better, but still not enough to spend valuable time on a treadmill, that's why i'm going the vr route. It's fun so i want to keep doing even though it's exercise. 

I don't know how i'd do weightlifting at home or keep motivated at it, though I have considered some weighted ankle and wrist bands to make the vr more intensive

I'll try the vitamin c. in most cases supplements are a waste, but since i don't have enough fruit i'm probably in defecit and could use it

 

7 minutes ago, WhisperingKnickers said:
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If you don't mind I can share things that have helped me. It won't fit with everyone but these things have certainly helped me.

 

I used to eat tuna, little caesar's pizza, and ramen noodles exclusively. This wasn't because I didn't like other food but because I never had the energy to cook other food and I didn't know much about cooking good foods in a way that wasn't time consuming and frustrating. My biggest recommendation to anyone who wants to eat healthier but isn't the worlds best chef is to buy a wok or some other large pan.

 

It has be unbelievably easy to make meals now, all I do it chop up any combination of veggies and or meat and then you just toss it in the pan with a tiny bit of oil. It doesn't take more than just a couple of minutes to cook and it is easy peasy. Having the big pan makes you feel like a pro too so that is fun. Some of my favorite things to toss in the wok in no particular order are: broccoli, carrots, mushrooms, onion, celery, chopped chicken, chopped beef, bamboo shoots or really anything else. Stir fry meals are really easy and super filling. You can also boil some noodles in another pan and then after they are done and strained you can toss the noodles into the wok with whatever else you happen to be making and it will make a really tasty noodley meal, rice is great too and works just as well. I have done this will dozens of combinations of foods and I have yet to see it turn out badly.

 

Sauces can be a lot of fun to make too. They are surprisingly simple and can spice up the flavor a bit too. I would be happy to share some of my favorites if anyone is interested.

 

I guess what I'm getting at is that it is really nice to have one kitchen utensil that you can go to to make a huge variety of food. You really can toss anything you want in it and make it taste good and have fun while making it.

 

 

Another thing that has helped me a lot is that I go on more walks now. It kinda sucks sometimes during the winter time but on warmer days or during the summer it can be really fun to go walking. Me and my wife often walk from our apartment down a hill a mile or so to the nearby village and while the walk itself isn't terribly exciting it is nice to have some time to get fresh air and talk. We also play Pokemon Go a lot and even though the game is pretty simple it is a nice way to keep my mind off of the fact that I don't want to half to walk back up the hill to get home. It gives you a hint of an extra reason to walk to the places you are walking too.

 

Like any exercise walking can kind of suck at first but it is one of those things that sucks less the more you do it. I quickly found myself going on walks because I wanted to and I enjoyed them, a nice transition from going on them because I was out of shape and felt like I had to.

 

Like I said, this isn't going to be the solution for everyone but I thought I'd share some of my experiences.

 

Walking is out for me because of 4 kids, but i'm definitely trying to cook more. I haven't considered a wok pan, but that sounds good. I am interested in sauces, what are some of your favorite ones?

 

7 minutes ago, Tech_Dreamer said:

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okay..

i think you got some flour on your nose...

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31 minutes ago, Jtalk4456 said:

Walking is out for me because of 4 kids, but i'm definitely trying to cook more. I haven't considered a wok pan, but that sounds good. I am interested in sauces, what are some of your favorite ones?

Once your kids get a little older grab them and have them come along. It is a lot of fun to go out as a family and I have a lot of good memories walking with my family when I was younger.

 

 

I have a little disclaimer about the sauces, some of them are made with things that I would normal avoid out of complete lack of interest but it turns out a lot of sauces taste good despite the individual ingredients being kinda gross on their own. The sauces also aren't always entirely healthy but they are super flavorful an you don't need to use very much to make your whole meal tasty.

 

Sauce for meat and potato type meals:

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If you are having a meat or potato based meal you can cook up some white or yellow onion on the stove chopped up. one onion makes enough for about 3-4 people. Keep it at a low or medium temp for maybe 10 or 15 minutes. You aren't looking to fry them, just cook them until they are soft and shiny. If you like mushrooms you can slice up some brown or white crimini mushrooms and throw them in with the onion.

 

In a separate dish mix a little bit (about 2-3 tablespoons) of white cooking wine with about a teaspoon of beef bullion. You can get jars of the bullion at costco and they will last you darn near forever. After the bullion and the wine are mixed you poor it on top of the onion and the mushrooms and let it simmer until the mushrooms are cooked to your liking. for the best timing I recommend adding the mushrooms and the wine/bullion at about the same time.

 

After that is done you can serve the solid stuff with whatever other food you made but leave the juice in the pan. Add a tiny but of corn starch (just a pinch or two to start) and it will thicken into a nice sauce you can poor over everything.

 

If you like spicy food:

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This sauce is great if you like spicy noodles/veggies/chicken chow mien what have you.

 

You will need:

- 1/3 cup soy sauce. If you want to limit the salt then get reduced salt soy sauce. I would recommend it if you make a lot of asian food like I do.

- 3 minced cloves of garlic

- 2 tablespoons of brown sugar

- 1 table spoon of chile paste or sriracha

- 1 tablespoon of oyster sauce (sounds gross imo but it is good when it is in this sauce)

- 1 tablespoon of grated ginger or if you have dried ginger powder use a little less

- 1 teaspoon of sesame oil (also gross on its own but it is a nice touch to the sauce. I don't recommend smelling the bottle though)

 

Mix it all together and set it aside, scoop two tablespoons of the sauce and add it to whatever meat or veggies you are cooking. Just before everything is done poor the rest into the pan as well and give it a good mix. I strongly recommenced using this with noodles or if you have a sizeable amount of food cooking unless you want your mouth to burn off. The more food used means it will be diluted more. If you don't want to make very much food then you can also reduce the chile past amount as well as the garlic.

 

These are two of my favorites. Sauces that use various kinds of other sauces and oils are nice because they all come in their own bottle and they will last you a long time.

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5 minutes ago, WhisperingKnickers said:

Once your kids get a little older grab them and have them come along. It is a lot of fun to go out as a family and I have a lot of good memories walking with my family when I was younger.

 

 

I have a little disclaimer about the sauces, some of them are made with things that I would normal avoid out of complete lack of interest but it turns out a lot of sauces taste good despite the individual ingredients being kinda gross on their own. The sauces also aren't always entirely healthy but they are super flavorful an you don't need to use very much to make your whole meal tasty.

 

Sauce for meat and potato type meals:

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If you are having a meat or potato based meal you can cook up some white or yellow onion on the stove chopped up. one onion makes enough for about 3-4 people. Keep it at a low or medium temp for maybe 10 or 15 minutes. You aren't looking to fry them, just cook them until they are soft and shiny. If you like mushrooms you can slice up some brown or white crimini mushrooms and throw them in with the onion.

 

In a separate dish mix a little bit (about 2-3 tablespoons) of white cooking wine with about a teaspoon of beef bullion. You can get jars of the bullion at costco and they will last you darn near forever. After the bullion and the wine are mixed you poor it on top of the onion and the mushrooms and let it simmer until the mushrooms are cooked to your liking. for the best timing I recommend adding the mushrooms and the wine/bullion at about the same time.

 

After that is done you can serve the solid stuff with whatever other food you made but leave the juice in the pan. Add a tiny but of corn starch (just a pinch or two to start) and it will thicken into a nice sauce you can poor over everything.

 

If you like spicy food:

  Hide contents

This sauce is great if you like spicy noodles/veggies/chicken chow mien what have you.

 

You will need:

- 1/3 cup soy sauce. If you want to limit the salt then get reduced salt soy sauce. I would recommend it if you make a lot of asian food like I do.

- 3 minced cloves of garlic

- 2 tablespoons of brown sugar

- 1 table spoon of chile paste or sriracha

- 1 tablespoon of oyster sauce (sounds gross imo but it is good when it is in this sauce)

- 1 tablespoon of grated ginger or if you have dried ginger powder use a little less

- 1 teaspoon of sesame oil (also gross on its own but it is a nice touch to the sauce. I don't recommend smelling the bottle though)

 

Mix it all together and set it aside, scoop two tablespoons of the sauce and add it to whatever meat or veggies you are cooking. Just before everything is done poor the rest into the pan as well and give it a good mix. I strongly recommenced using this with noodles or if you have a sizeable amount of food cooking unless you want your mouth to burn off. The more food used means it will be diluted more. If you don't want to make very much food then you can also reduce the chile past amount as well as the garlic.

 

These are two of my favorites. Sauces that use various kinds of other sauces and oils are nice because they all come in their own bottle and they will last you a long time.

i'll give the second one a try, but the taste of onions and mushrooms is awful, and i can detect it no mater how much there is of it or how it's cooked. My mom has tried everything to get me to eat onions and mushrooms

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1 minute ago, Jtalk4456 said:

i'll give the second one a try, but the taste of onions and mushrooms is awful, and i can detect it no mater how much there is of it or how it's cooked. My mom has tried everything to get me to eat onions and mushrooms

I'll try to think of another one, I'm not hungry right now so my food memory is a bit weak. When one comes to mind I will let you know.

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Speaking of sauces, cornstarch is best added when mixed with cold water. It dissolves nicely in that, just add enough water to make it liquidy and not so thick that it's ooblek.

Also on the topic of food and cooking, try cauliflower to make mashed "potatoes". It's werid sounding, but if you boil cauliflower and then puree it with a little butter or margarine, salt, pepper, a little garlic and/or onion powder, it turns into a very nice tasting puree that can stand in well for mashed potatoes. You might want to start with part cauliflower added to real mashed potatoes to get used to the cauliflower, but I've grown so used to it that I prefer it over actual potatoes.

Finally, I recommend finding a source of large amounts of high quality vegtables, maybe even getting something like a farm share (the kind where you pay and pick up, not working on a farm). Have fun with the flavors, find new ingredients to add to your meals. Also, try thinking of meals in terms of vegtables first, then protein (meat or plant protein), then finally starches last. I've found it's very easy to overdo on fats and starches, not quite as much but still easy to overdo on meat, and very hard to overdo on vegtables.

 

I'm not a nutrition expert or anything, but I do really enjoy cooking and have learned a little about nutrition. Take any advice I give with salt, to taste :) (And pepper, garlic, onion, herbs, any other seasoning you fancy).

 

(P.S. I just realized you don't like onions or mushrooms. Everything stated above can go without, just skip over the word onion lol)

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1 minute ago, OJTheAviator said:

Speaking of sauces, cornstarch is best added when mixed with cold water. It dissolves nicely in that, just add enough water to make it liquidy and not so thick that it's ooblek.

Also on the topic of food and cooking, try cauliflower to make mashed "potatoes". It's werid sounding, but if you boil cauliflower and then puree it with a little butter or margarine, salt, pepper, a little garlic and/or onion powder, it turns into a very nice tasting puree that can stand in well for mashed potatoes. You might want to start with part cauliflower added to real mashed potatoes to get used to the cauliflower, but I've grown so used to it that I prefer it over actual potatoes.

Finally, I recommend finding a source of large amounts of high quality vegtables, maybe even getting something like a farm share (the kind where you pay and pick up, not working on a farm). Have fun with the flavors, find new ingredients to add to your meals. Also, try thinking of meals in terms of vegtables first, then protein (meat or plant protein), then finally starches last. I've found it's very easy to overdo on fats and starches, not quite as much but still easy to overdo on meat, and very hard to overdo on vegtables.

 

I'm not a nutrition expert or anything, but I do really enjoy cooking and have learned a little about nutrition. Take any advice I give with salt, to taste :) (And pepper, garlic, onion, herbs, any other seasoning you fancy).

cauliflower mashed potatoes are the best!!!!

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5 minutes ago, OJTheAviator said:

Oh, forgot one thing. Drinking large amounts of water has been great for me recently. It's very nice if you do it as herbal tea, warm.

Can't stand tea, but i'm shoving in as much water as I can

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Get on it fatty!

Ok, now that the shaming is out of the way...

 

I'd take a hard look at your diet. I know a lot of people who think they eat pretty healthily, but when you actually break down what they're consuming, it's downright awful. If you're serious about weight loss, it's going to take a very strict diet with not a lot of wonderful things. Since you're in a family environment, it'll probably mean having a meal separate from what everyone else is eating. Yes, it sucks, yes, it's extra work and cost, but such is life.

 

If you're target is 200lbs, I really hope you were originally a very slender Eastern European dude. That's way too light for that height. For comparison, I'm 5'7 and currently 170lbs. I'll probably end up being around 185lb - 195lb once I've put on the muscle mass I'm aiming for.

 

I'm not sure how your wired, but I'm going to say this: don't constantly check the scale. It's not healthy. It's going to take time to lose that weight, and as long as you're feeling some gain in that area, don't bother checking. Your waist size and energy levels should show progress. Check maybe once a month. Weight naturally fluctuates quite a bit from day to day, even time to time because of your body's digestion.

 

Also check your sugar intake. You'd be surprised how much sugar is in everyday things, and that's likely a massive part of your problem. Especially if you're consuming a lot of bread.

Sugar is the enemy. Sugar is a killer. Sugar is one of the worst things currently facing the world today.

 

Cardio is good, but at your size and condition, probably not the best start. Focus on diet first, and then work your way to running; it'll probably be too hard on your joints at that weight.

Also, do not over estimate the power of weight lifting. Go to the store, buy a few free weights, and download JeFit. It's one of the better fitness apps IMO, and shows you many, many different exercises you can do with said weights. Muscle burns fat at a significantly higher rate than anything else, so the more muscle you put on, the more fat it consumes. Plus the sexier you'll end up looking ;) Just make sure you work out all areas, as you don't want to over do only a couple muscle groups.

 

If you can, take a hard look at what you eat each day, and record how much sugar you intake. Do it over a 3 or 4 day period (every day), and see what you're consuming. I'd genuinely be interested to see what your sugar in take levels are like.

 

I've lost 40 pounds over the past 5 months, and I'm at where I want to be to start building muscle. it's a grind, but you'll get there. Consider taking family walks. Walking a lot can definitely help. I've taken to walking home from work most nights, even in -25, and it's quite energizing.

 

Hey, at least if you started smoking crack your teeth would fall out (less ability to eat food) and you're appetite would be near gone ;)

 

20 hours ago, LordOTaco said:

Two things.  Get your music player/phone.  Add a bunch of Eurobeat and DBZ music = profit.

 

No seriously thats what worked for me and keeping me from being bored on the treadmill hearing the DBZ guitar get goin or the Initial D music drop instant adrenaline rush and boost to motivation.

 

Also while you're trying to lose weight figure in weight lifting people underestimate how much energy is really burned off lifting weights plus for guys it is a good boost for testosterone which has its positive effects especially for weight loss

 

Consider a supplement of Vitamin C nothing complicated just a basic Vitamin C pill.  Not only good for your immune system but helps counteracts the effects of cortisol (comes from stress) which can make weight loss difficult.

Totally agree. Weight loss is an excellent way to burn off unwanted weight.

19 hours ago, Tech_Dreamer said:

bruh, i can imagine why you're having hard time getting on with your plan to loose weight, 4 kids. that's brutal. you have more than enough stress to focus on all. let alone yours.

Stress can be an excellent way to lose weight ;)

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2 hours ago, dizmo said:

Stress can be an excellent way to lose weight

isnt it the opposite?  i knew he had a kid , but 4 a surprise to me, i was expecting one , that kinda thing is really stressful i assume.

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10 hours ago, dizmo said:

1. Get on it fatty!

2. I'd take a hard look at your diet. I know a lot of people who think they eat pretty healthily, but when you actually break down what they're consuming, it's downright awful. If you're serious about weight loss, it's going to take a very strict diet with not a lot of wonderful things. Since you're in a family environment, it'll probably mean having a meal separate from what everyone else is eating. Yes, it sucks, yes, it's extra work and cost, but such is life.

3. If you're target is 200lbs, I really hope you were originally a very slender Eastern European dude. That's way too light for that height. For comparison, I'm 5'7 and currently 170lbs. I'll probably end up being around 185lb - 195lb once I've put on the muscle mass I'm aiming for.

4. I'm not sure how your wired, but I'm going to say this: don't constantly check the scale. It's not healthy. It's going to take time to lose that weight, and as long as you're feeling some gain in that area, don't bother checking. Your waist size and energy levels should show progress. Check maybe once a month. Weight naturally fluctuates quite a bit from day to day, even time to time because of your body's digestion.

5. Also check your sugar intake. You'd be surprised how much sugar is in everyday things, and that's likely a massive part of your problem. Especially if you're consuming a lot of bread.

Sugar is the enemy. Sugar is a killer. Sugar is one of the worst things currently facing the world today.

6. Cardio is good, but at your size and condition, probably not the best start. Focus on diet first, and then work your way to running; it'll probably be too hard on your joints at that weight.

7. Also, do not over estimate the power of weight lifting. Go to the store, buy a few free weights, and download JeFit. It's one of the better fitness apps IMO, and shows you many, many different exercises you can do with said weights. Muscle burns fat at a significantly higher rate than anything else, so the more muscle you put on, the more fat it consumes.

8. Plus the sexier you'll end up looking ;) Just make sure you work out all areas, as you don't want to over do only a couple muscle groups.

9. If you can, take a hard look at what you eat each day, and record how much sugar you intake. Do it over a 3 or 4 day period (every day), and see what you're consuming. I'd genuinely be interested to see what your sugar in take levels are like.

10. Weight loss is an excellent way to burn off unwanted weight.

1. Thanks :D

2. I already eat separate meals, I make my kids something, then make something for myself. My diet is pretty horrible. Like i said I don't really have veggies and fruit often. The only reason I'm looking at exercise is I have an IT job taking calls at a desk, so no movement all day...

3. I was just going by BMI calculations. To get a BMI of 25, which is the high end of healthy, I should be 200 lbs. With gaining some muscle, I'm aiming for 220. Is BMI a bad calculation to use?

4. No Worries, I'm not one who sees a temporary increase and gets depressed and gives up. I need to see it constantly to motivate myself. If it goes up for a day, that just keeps me motivated. It's when I stop looking that I also stop doing other things I should.

5. I'm genuinely scared to break down my sugar intake XD I'm sure it's horrible, I LOVE bread!

6. But.. BEAT SABER!!!! MUST SWING ARMS WILDLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm taking it slow, nothing too hard at first. *did an expert song today...definitely not pushing myself*

7. I will give it a shot once i can afford to go grab some. I'm worried I'll lose motivation with those since it's boring for me.

8. Are you saying my beer gut that has no beer in it ISN'T inherently sexy????

9. I'll give it a shot, though it may be a bit before I actually remember to record that during the day

10. I'm gonna assume you meant weight lifting, but i'm gonna keep reading how you wrote it cuz it's funnier

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8 hours ago, Tech_Dreamer said:

isnt it the opposite?  i knew he had a kid , but 4 a surprise to me, i was expecting one , that kinda thing is really stressful i assume.

i'm guessing you didn't see my status from about a month ago... #5 is on the way...

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Fluctuation that means almost nothing until it remains for a whole week #1: 322.8

yay, now i just have to not eat anything for breakfast or lunch tomorrow so i can maintain this and not let it fluctuate back up XD

Come to think of it, I'll be posting as often as I can with things I'm doing, but I don't think i'll post the actual number more than once a week. I'm keeping track on my phone, but I don't want anyone getting notification just to see my stupid numbers

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8 hours ago, Tech_Dreamer said:

isnt it the opposite?  i knew he had a kid , but 4 a surprise to me, i was expecting one , that kinda thing is really stressful i assume.

Depends on the person I guess. I've been super stressed. Lost even more weight ? Though, if you binge eat when you're stressed, I suppose the opposite effect would take shape.

41 minutes ago, Jtalk4456 said:

1. Thanks :D

2. I already eat separate meals, I make my kids something, then make something for myself. My diet is pretty horrible. Like i said I don't really have veggies and fruit often. The only reason I'm looking at exercise is I have an IT job taking calls at a desk, so no movement all day...

3. I was just going by BMI calculations. To get a BMI of 25, which is the high end of healthy, I should be 200 lbs. With gaining some muscle, I'm aiming for 220. Is BMI a bad calculation to use?

4. No Worries, I'm not one who sees a temporary increase and gets depressed and gives up. I need to see it constantly to motivate myself. If it goes up for a day, that just keeps me motivated. It's when I stop looking that I also stop doing other things I should.

5. I'm genuinely scared to break down my sugar intake XD I'm sure it's horrible, I LOVE bread!

6. But.. BEAT SABER!!!! MUST SWING ARMS WILDLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm taking it slow, nothing too hard at first. *did an expert song today...definitely not pushing myself*

7. I will give it a shot once i can afford to go grab some. I'm worried I'll lose motivation with those since it's boring for me.

8. Are you saying my beer gut that has no beer in it ISN'T inherently sexy????

9. I'll give it a shot, though it may be a bit before I actually remember to record that during the day

10. I'm gonna assume you meant weight lifting, but i'm gonna keep reading how you wrote it cuz it's funnier

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i'm guessing you didn't see my status from about a month ago... #5 is on the way...

So, what did you eat today? Break down everything you had, make a list, post it here and we can tear you apart! But actually I'm genuinely curious. I want to see what your sugar intake looks like.

 

You can do things to increase your activity at work, depending on how helpful your employer is, and how much expendable income you have.

  • Get a sit/stand desk
  • Get a small treadmill deal where you can walk in place
  • Get an exercise bike that allows you to work out and work at the same time
  • Do stairs on your lunch breaks

No, it's definitely not. Here's a decent read, but there's many other articles that basically enforce the same views.

http://theconversation.com/we-asked-five-experts-is-bmi-a-good-way-to-tell-if-my-weight-is-healthy-96985

Though keep in mind, fitness advice is cancerous. You can often find many sources backing up one claim that might not be true. This is pretty solid though. I mean, just take into account that most football players would be considered "obese" if you were to base it on their BMI, but they're more fit than a huge percentage of people.

 

I always take my friend and use him as an example. He's on the larger side, 5'9 and 240lbish. However he can go up to 255lb one day, and drop to 230lb the next. To determine if you're getting anywhere, ignore the scale and simply look at your body. See improvement? Good job, something's working.

 

I just hope it's at least not white bread ? How much bread do you eat a day? Bread is simply an empty vessel for what's within most of the time.

 

It doesn't take a whole lot of time out of your day. Maybe half an hour, 40 minutes at most. Building muscle will really help more than anything else.

 

Haha I'm sure it floats someone's boat (or house, at this point) ;)

 

LOL I think so? I can't even really remember. I typed it quickly before I left for work and was mucho tired.

 

 

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9 hours ago, dizmo said:

1. So, what did you eat today? Break down everything you had, make a list, post it here and we can tear you apart! But actually I'm genuinely curious. I want to see what your sugar intake looks like.

2. You can do things to increase your activity at work, depending on how helpful your employer is, and how much expendable income you have.

  • Get a sit/stand desk
  • Get a small treadmill deal where you can walk in place
  • Get an exercise bike that allows you to work out and work at the same time
  • Do stairs on your lunch breaks

3. No, it's definitely not. Here's a decent read, but there's many other articles that basically enforce the same views.

http://theconversation.com/we-asked-five-experts-is-bmi-a-good-way-to-tell-if-my-weight-is-healthy-96985

Though keep in mind, fitness advice is cancerous. You can often find many sources backing up one claim that might not be true. This is pretty solid though. I mean, just take into account that most football players would be considered "obese" if you were to base it on their BMI, but they're more fit than a huge percentage of people.

4. I just hope it's at least not white bread ? How much bread do you eat a day? Bread is simply an empty vessel for what's within most of the time.

5. It doesn't take a whole lot of time out of your day. Maybe half an hour, 40 minutes at most. Building muscle will really help more than anything else.

 

 

1. Well I'll start with today, though today won't be typical, I'll just start today to get in the routine of tracking.

So in laws are visiting and got pizza yesterday. This morning, I woke up late, tossed left over pizza in my lunch box and hit bojangles on the way to work. I had their SEC biscuit combo with fries and 2 cheerwine. This is overboard I know, but I'm getting over something and my throat was feeling awful so i needed the Cheerwine to soothe my throat. So today will be a pretty unhealthy day, even by my standards. When I get home, I will probably grab a bologna and cheese on either a plain bagel or 2 slices of sara lee artisano bread (the whitest of white bread, but it's amazing!!) To try and balance everything out, I'm gonna find some veggies in a can somewhere in the cabinet and eat them and an apple with the sandwich for dinner

2. nope, got a under the desk pedaler if i remember to bring it, nope, i could, but if i'm being honest that's gonna be as demotivating as a treadmill and i'll have trouble convincing myself to do this one

3. I'll look into this today between calls

4. I never eat white bread!

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ummm... that was for a umm birthday party, yeah! definitely not normal behavior...

5. But can I get my beer belly to get muscle? XD I'm not too worried about being strong, I just need the belly fat gone, so whatever works

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16 hours ago, Jtalk4456 said:

1. Well I'll start with today, though today won't be typical, I'll just start today to get in the routine of tracking.

So in laws are visiting and got pizza yesterday. This morning, I woke up late, tossed left over pizza in my lunch box and hit bojangles on the way to work. I had their SEC biscuit combo with fries and 2 cheerwine. This is overboard I know, but I'm getting over something and my throat was feeling awful so i needed the Cheerwine to soothe my throat. So today will be a pretty unhealthy day, even by my standards. When I get home, I will probably grab a bologna and cheese on either a plain bagel or 2 slices of sara lee artisano bread (the whitest of white bread, but it's amazing!!) To try and balance everything out, I'm gonna find some veggies in a can somewhere in the cabinet and eat them and an apple with the sandwich for dinner

2. nope, got a under the desk pedaler if i remember to bring it, nope, i could, but if i'm being honest that's gonna be as demotivating as a treadmill and i'll have trouble convincing myself to do this one

3. I'll look into this today between calls

4. I never eat white bread!

 

ummm... that was for a umm birthday party, yeah! definitely not normal behavior...

5. But can I get my beer belly to get muscle? XD I'm not too worried about being strong, I just need the belly fat gone, so whatever works

Ugh. Not gonna lie, now I'm hungry, and Cheerwine sounds delicious! However, we have our first demon. What size did you drink? No that it matters much. Even a single small has more than your daily recommended intake of sugar, at 56g (recommended is 50g or less). 2 larges? We're looking at almost 5 days worth of sugar intake in a single blow (or many sucks, I guess). There are other drinks than Cheerwine. A hot green tea would do the same thing, and involve no sugar. Stop making excuses ;) White bread does virtually nothing for you. It's pretty void of any nutrients. If you were eating healthier bread, it wouldn't be as bad, but we'll chalk this up to what it is: an easy way to add 2g of sugar per slice onto your daily total. Please tell me you're eating real cheese, and not processed cheese slices...which is basically just consumable plastic. Can't speak too ill of veggies in a can, but flash frozen are a little better IMO.

 

Weight lifting isn't always about being strong. Muscle burns fat to maintain itself. Thus, it accelerates your goal.

 

At the end of the day, if you're not willing to do drastic life changes, you're unlikely to see the results you're wanting. *shrug*

 

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8 hours ago, dizmo said:

Ugh. Not gonna lie, now I'm hungry, and Cheerwine sounds delicious! However, we have our first demon. What size did you drink? No that it matters much. Even a single small has more than your daily recommended intake of sugar, at 56g (recommended is 50g or less). 2 larges? We're looking at almost 5 days worth of sugar intake in a single blow (or many sucks, I guess). There are other drinks than Cheerwine. A hot green tea would do the same thing, and involve no sugar. Stop making excuses ;) White bread does virtually nothing for you. It's pretty void of any nutrients. If you were eating healthier bread, it wouldn't be as bad, but we'll chalk this up to what it is: an easy way to add 2g of sugar per slice onto your daily total. Please tell me you're eating real cheese, and not processed cheese slices...which is basically just consumable plastic. Can't speak too ill of veggies in a can, but flash frozen are a little better IMO.

 

Weight lifting isn't always about being strong. Muscle burns fat to maintain itself. Thus, it accelerates your goal.

 

At the end of the day, if you're not willing to do drastic life changes, you're unlikely to see the results you're wanting. *shrug*

 

I drank small, but yeah that was bad. Cheerwine is amazing tasting though and very fizzy so it helped my throat

I don't like tea or coffee, so for me drink options are water soda milk and juice

And god no, I got off that crap "cheese" years ago. I'm partial to havarti, muenster, and colby jack. We typically buy block cheese.

At this point almost any veggie/fruit is more than what i'm getting, flash frozen or canned

I'm more worried about doing it. As I said I can't motivate myself to get on a treadmill, i get bored too easily. I don't know how I can make weight lifting interesting enough to actually do it and not have the weights gaining dust

I'll grab some of the small weights once we get tax return and I'll keep you updated. What size do you think I should start with?

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4 hours ago, Jtalk4456 said:

I drank small, but yeah that was bad. Cheerwine is amazing tasting though and very fizzy so it helped my throat

I don't like tea or coffee, so for me drink options are water soda milk and juice

And god no, I got off that crap "cheese" years ago. I'm partial to havarti, muenster, and colby jack. We typically buy block cheese.

At this point almost any veggie/fruit is more than what i'm getting, flash frozen or canned

I'm more worried about doing it. As I said I can't motivate myself to get on a treadmill, i get bored too easily. I don't know how I can make weight lifting interesting enough to actually do it and not have the weights gaining dust

I'll grab some of the small weights once we get tax return and I'll keep you updated. What size do you think I should start with?

Sugar, sugar sugar. The enemy. Juice isn't much better, it's usually as bad and sometimes worse than pop. You can drink soda water. It has no flavor, but has the fizz you're probably after. Honestly, cutting out sugary beverages alone will probably have a profound impact on your health. Especially since they use high fructose corn syrup, which is actually worse than natural sugar. There was a documentary on sugar, and the CBC gave a family free groceries for 3 weeks that contained more natural items and ones that are lower in sugar. The result? Both lost considerable weight, with the husband losing about 4 - 6 inches from his waist. You really need to watch your intake, especially in the US where processed food seems to be more common and more packed with sugar.

 

More doesn't equal better though. Again, check what you're eating. Sometimes the canned stuff is packed in sugar water, especially when it comes to fruits. Then I just refer you to the above rant ?

 

Sometimes you have to do boring things in life. Welcome to the club. You're there to better yourself, not to have fun. If you have other friends in similar situations, see if you can make a challenge out of it.

 

Haha, ah that question always amuses me, it's like when I have customers ask me if something's heavy at work. Well, I just shoulder carried the 75lb box across the store with little problem. So to me, it's light. To you, that might be an impossible feat. It's the same weight weights; I don't know how strong you are, so it's hard to suggest a weight. IIRC you should aim for something you can do 8 reps with before failure. I do curls with a 35lb free weight. I'd hope you'd at least be able to do a 20, hopefully more? I'd also consider grabbing a set of resistance bands from eBay. They're cheap, maybe $30 for a good, fully equipped kit, and a book on how to use them.

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On 1/18/2019 at 5:50 PM, dizmo said:

1. It has no flavor, but has the fizz you're probably after.

2. Haha, ah that question always amuses me, it's like when I have customers ask me if something's heavy at work. Well, I just shoulder carried the 75lb box across the store with little problem. So to me, it's light. To you, that might be an impossible feat. It's the same weight weights; I don't know how strong you are, so it's hard to suggest a weight. IIRC you should aim for something you can do 8 reps with before failure. I do curls with a 35lb free weight. I'd hope you'd at least be able to do a 20, hopefully more? I'd also consider grabbing a set of resistance bands from eBay. They're cheap, maybe $30 for a good, fully equipped kit, and a book on how to use them.

1. God no that stuff is nasty. I'm after the flavor.

2. I'm strong enough to move stuff, it's the reps that get ya. I think going for 8 reps, 30-40 would be fine. 

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