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Is DDR4 3000 mhz RAM really worth it?

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I'm planning on buying parts for a PC today because its Black Friday, and I was wondering should spend the extra $40 to get 3000 MHz RAM. This PC is mainly going to be used for gaming and I'm not really sure if RAM speed really matters or not.

My build:http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/FKhgGX

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nope

ram speed after 2133MHz really doesn't matter in gaming 

@Murdersaurus follow your threads 

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sidenote, instead spend the extra 40 bucks on a better power supply.

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how the hell is that ram that expensive?

there's these sticks for at least $100 less: http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-memory-cmk16gx4m2a2666c16

and these at 3200 MHz: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231929&AID=10657534&PID=3938566&SID=&nm_mc=AFC-C8JunctionCA&cm_mmc=AFC-C8JunctionCA-_-na-_-na-_-na&utm_medium=affiliates&utm_source=afc-%zn

 

that said even some 2133MHz ram will do absolutely fine, ram has some effect on gaming when the CPU is the bottneck, but with a 6700K I don't think that's going to happen all that often. I would also not recommend the NEX PSU (one of EVGA's not-so-great units), something like the 550W GS will be fine for 1 Graphics card (if that's all you're getting)

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I couldn't help myself and I improved your build significantly while keeping the same price

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-5820K 3.3GHz 6-Core Processor  ($504.24 @ Vuugo)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i GTX 70.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($99.99 @ NCIX)
Motherboard: MSI X99A SLI PLUS ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard  ($249.98 @ NCIX)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR4-2666 Memory  ($125.98 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($89.99 @ Canada Computers)
Storage: Western Digital BLACK SERIES 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($144.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Video Card: XFX Radeon R9 Fury 4GB Triple Dissipation Video Card  ($696.98 @ Newegg Canada)
Case: NZXT H440 (Matte Black/Red) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($144.37 @ Amazon Canada)
Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($64.99 @ NCIX)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM (64-bit)  ($119.99 @ NCIX)
Case Fan: be quiet! SilentWings 2 50.5 CFM 120mm  Fan  ($24.90 @ Newegg Canada)
Total: $2266.40
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-11-27 18:45 EST-0500

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D GPU: AMD Radeon RX 6900 XT 16GB GDDR6 Motherboard: MSI PRESTIGE X570 CREATION
AIO: Corsair H150i Pro RAM: Corsair Dominator Platinum RGB 32GB 3600MHz DDR4 Case: Lian Li PC-O11 Dynamic PSU: Corsair RM850x White

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I couldn't help myself and I improved your build significantly while keeping the same price

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-5820K 3.3GHz 6-Core Processor ($504.24 @ Vuugo)

CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i GTX 70.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($99.99 @ NCIX)

Motherboard: MSI X99A SLI PLUS ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard ($249.98 @ NCIX)

Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR4-2666 Memory ($125.98 @ Newegg Canada)

Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($89.99 @ Canada Computers)

Storage: Western Digital BLACK SERIES 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($144.99 @ Newegg Canada)

Video Card: XFX Radeon R9 Fury 4GB Triple Dissipation Video Card ($696.98 @ Newegg Canada)

Case: NZXT H440 (Matte Black/Red) ATX Mid Tower Case ($144.37 @ Amazon Canada)

Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($64.99 @ NCIX)

Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM (64-bit) ($119.99 @ NCIX)

Case Fan: be quiet! SilentWings 2 50.5 CFM 120mm Fan ($24.90 @ Newegg Canada)

Total: $2266.40

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-11-27 18:45 EST-0500

Yeah this build would be decently faster

My Work in Progress PC http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/522048-xeon-build/ <-- That PC was built but never booted:(

My Work in Progress PC 2.0 https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/540583-xeon-build-20-code-name-xenox (Hopefully this one boots.) 

 

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nope

ram speed after 2133MHz really doesn't matter in gaming 

@Murdersaurus follow your threads 

bullshit. Stop spreading misinformation.

 

read @magetanks article on THIS VERY SUBJECT.

http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/486004-impact-of-memory-speed-on-gaming-performance/

 

cheapst 2133 DDR4 8GB

http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gskill-memory-f42133c15d8gvr

 

cheapest 3000 DDR4 8GB

http://pcpartpicker.com/part/team-memory-tdked48g3000hc16adc01

 

price difference?

15 USD

 

performance difference?

+10% ish on average

 

How much does it cost to get 10% more performance out of a CPU?

at minimum, 20 USD for a decent air cooler able to overclock the CPU

 

How much does it cost to get 10% more performane out of a GPU?

depends... can be anywhere between 30 and 150 USD depending on whether you need a new PSU, or a new GPU

 

these 15 bucks invested into RAM, is worth it. Price to performance and dollars pr FPS wise, it is WORTH IT!

Current setup

Images of setup: http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/183-show-off-your-setup/?p=5872590

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nope

ram speed after 2133MHz really doesn't matter in gaming 

@Murdersaurus follow your threads 

May I ask what source you used for this claim and magical number?

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nope

ram speed after 2133MHz really doesn't matter in gaming 

@Murdersaurus follow your threads 

yes it does, especially on the new non-over clock-able cpu's. i'd get the fastest ram I could get. check the pdf at the board manufacturers site. as a matter of fact i would get 3400 if i could swing it.

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May I ask what source you used for this claim and magical number?

*really doesn't matter MUCH* for the average gamer you won't notice a difference. 

spending the extra money is not worth it.

especially when you can overclock, and you are aware of CAS latency right? How fast the RAM interacts with the CPU? 

Unless your an overclocker I would not suggest getting 2133+

practically anyone will say above 1886MHz won't make a difference.

you can claim what you want, you can make what threads you want but I have done 1600MHz and 2666MHz and have not noticed a FPS increase.

yes it does, especially on the new non-over clock-able cpu's. i'd get the fastest ram I could get. check the pdf at the board manufacturers site. as a matter of fact i would get 3400 if i could swing it.

non-overclockable

on a 6700k you won't see a difference 

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*really doesn't matter MUCH* for the average gamer you won't notice a difference. 

spending the extra money is not worth it.

especially when you can overclock, and you are aware of CAS latency right? How fast the RAM interacts with the CPU? 

Unless your an overclocker I would not suggest getting 2133+

practically anyone will say above 1886MHz won't make a difference.

you can claim what you want, you can make what threads you want but I have done 1600MHz and 2666MHz and have not noticed a FPS increase.

non-overclockable

on a 6700k you won't see a difference 

You do realize this is a Skylake build, right? 2133 is the base JEDEC standard for DDR4, running below that is not recommended for any DDR4 system.

Please read this article on DDR3 vs. DDR4 and true latency from anandtech http://www.anandtech.com/show/9483/intel-skylake-review-6700k-6600k-ddr4-ddr3-ipc-6th-generation/7

To site CAS latency as primary reason to not get higher bandwidth kits is not only misleading, it's completely inaccurate. Will higher speeds make a significant difference in most applications? No, it definitely won't. But on some platforms and for some particular use scenarios it is worth the slightly higher price tag.

 

@Murdersaurus that particular kit is most certainly not worth the price premium. There are plenty of other 2666-3000MHz kits out there that are almost at price parity with DDR3. Get the highest speed that you can get for ~$150-175 CDN (~$130 USD is the most I would pay for  DDR4 16GB kit ATM).

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*really doesn't matter MUCH* for the average gamer you won't notice a difference. 

spending the extra money is not worth it.

especially when you can overclock, and you are aware of CAS latency right? How fast the RAM interacts with the CPU? 

Unless your an overclocker I would not suggest getting 2133+

practically anyone will say above 1886MHz won't make a difference.

you can claim what you want, you can make what threads you want but I have done 1600MHz and 2666MHz and have not noticed a FPS increase.

non-overclockable

on a 6700k you won't see a difference 

maybe i should have said non "K"....?

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