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best parts for deticated folding rig

i want to build a dedicated folding rig but not sure what parts i should use  intel or amd for cpu and nvidia or amd for gpu what would give me the best bang for my buck. also linux or windows

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From USA? just so i can pricespy and what's your cost range?

just want to know which parts are optimal but my budgets around 500-1000 dollars 

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just want to know which parts are optimal but my budgets around 500-1000 dollars 

In all honesty in my opinion (which a lot will argue with) intel is easily the best bang for your buck hands down with the high performance per core it wins in CPU, GPU is really preferable I have a AMD graphics card now but I'm going to upgrade to Nvidia .

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just want to know which parts are optimal but my budgets around 500-1000 dollars 

I'll be honest: the best bang for the buck would be getting a Gtx 980ti and slapping it into the rig on your sig.

 

No jokes; if you were to get a new system, you'd have to spend on RAM, mobo, PSU, case and storage (which are completely useless), as well as a CPU (which doesn't help much). Getting a 980ti to your current machine will not only convert all the money into actual compute performance, it'll also improve your gaming experience whenever you want.

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I'll be honest: the best bang for the buck would be getting a Gtx 980ti and slapping it into the rig on your sig.

 

No jokes; if you were to get a new system, you'd have to spend on RAM, mobo, PSU, case and storage (which are completely useless), as well as a CPU (which doesn't help much). Getting a 980ti to your current machine will not only convert all the money into actual compute performance, it'll also improve your gaming experience whenever you want.

i have spare ram psu and case also i am waiting for pascal to get new gpu (plan is to get 2 of top of the line pascal) and i currently am and will continue to fold on my main pc but i turn it down when i am gaming (which i do alot)  so i would like to have a dedicated rig just for folding and other computing processes (running simulations of various things)

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i have spare ram psu and case also i am waiting for pascal to get new gpu (plan is to get 2 of top of the line pascal) and i currently am and will continue to fold on my main pc but i turn it down when i am gaming (which i do alot)  so i would like to have a dedicated rig just for folding and other computing processes (running simulations of various things)

Well, that changes things. If you already have spare parts anyway, might as well make use of them.

 

At any rate, recomendation still stands: 980ti + pentium G + mobo h81. No need for the G3258, you'll be fine with cheaper ones. If your PSU is 750+ W, you may also want to consider a z87 / 97 with SLI support, in the offchance that you decide to add another Nvidia GPU (say, you get Pascal for your main sys and throw the 780 into the folding rig).

 

Oh, and pick up a 5$ IDE HD, just cuz why not? You'll need somewhere to put the OS....

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If you want bang for your buck, you're better off getting two graphics cards than spending an arm and a leg on a CPU. CPU folding generally gets less than 20% of the yield of GPU folding, and that's at the very best of times, with something in the region of 5% being more likely...

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Well, that changes things. If you already have spare parts anyway, might as well make use of them.

 

At any rate, recomendation still stands: 980ti + pentium G + mobo h81. No need for the G3258, you'll be fine with cheaper ones. If your PSU is 750+ W, you may also want to consider a z87 / 97 with SLI support, in the offchance that you decide to add another Nvidia GPU (say, you get Pascal for your main sys and throw the 780 into the folding rig).

 

Oh, and pick up a 5$ IDE HD, just cuz why not? You'll need somewhere to put the OS....

If you want bang for your buck, you're better off getting two graphics cards than spending an arm and a leg on a CPU. CPU folding generally gets less than 20% of the yield of GPU folding, and that's at the very best of times, with something in the region of 5% being more likely...

for the cpu i was thinking about getting an amd fx-8320 it supports sli what do you think

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for the cpu i was thinking about getting an amd fx-8320 it supports sli what do you think

 

You could do, yes, but even that might be overkill if you focus on GPU folding.

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for the cpu i was thinking about getting an amd fx-8320 it supports sli what do you think

Bad idea. The focus are the GPUs, you are better off getting a cheaper CPU. Besides, the FX are very inneficient CPUs. And if you ever decide to change your mind as to the goal of the machine (say, you'd want to help CPU crunching or change it into a gaming PC), the FX is not only bad, it also offers no upgrade options, as you would have with a pentium.

 

But if you can find a crazy cheap deal on used parts from someone upgrading his / her PC, I guess it wouldn't hurt either.

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Bad idea. The focus are the GPUs, you are better off getting a cheaper CPU. Besides, the FX are very inneficient CPUs. And if you ever decide to change your mind as to the goal of the machine (say, you'd want to help CPU crunching or change it into a gaming PC), the FX is not only bad, it also offers no upgrade options, as you would have with a pentium.

 

But if you can find a crazy cheap deal on used parts from someone upgrading his / her PC, I guess it wouldn't hurt either.

alright just motherboards are cheaper for the amd solutions ill see what pentium ones offer 3 way sli 

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alright just motherboards are cheaper for the amd solutions ill see what pentium ones offer 3 way sli 

Er.... good luck. 3way SLI isn't normally supported on Z97, as there aren't enough PCIe lanes for that (mobos need a PLX chip to do it, and it costs a ton!).

 

Also, 3-way SLI would require 3 threads for folding, and the pentium only has 2.

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alright just motherboards are cheaper for the amd solutions ill see what pentium ones offer 3 way sli 

Just so you know, folding does not utilize SLI.

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Just so you know, folding does not utilize SLI.

Correct. But it seems (as we really know nothing about Folding) that high end Nvidia GPUs have a considerable drop in performance when running in 4x mode or lower, so you want your cards to run at least on 8x mode..... which only SLI mobos have.

 

So while SLI is not important per si, it's a quick way to verify that a mobo has / doesn't have the actual desired feature.

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Correct. But it seems (as we really know nothing about Folding) that high end Nvidia GPUs have a considerable drop in performance when running in 4x mode or lower, so you want your cards to run at least on 8x mode..... which only SLI mobos have.

 

So while SLI is not important per si, it's a quick way to very that a mobo has / doesn't have the actually desired feature.

I'll agree with that.

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Just so you know, folding does not utilize SLI.

yes but they still use all of the gpu right otherwise i would just be buying extra gpu for no reason 

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yes but they still use all of the gpu right otherwise i would just be buying extra gpu for no reason 

 

Yes, folding uses all of the gpus processing power, but does not require a lot of memory since they aren't rendering to screens.

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i want to build a dedicated folding rig but not sure what parts i should use  intel or amd for cpu and nvidia or amd for gpu what would give me the best bang for my buck. also linux or windows

thanks

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As others have implied but not made clear, folding isn't just about results, it's about getting results with faster being better.  That's why the more powerful GPUs have a higher ppd for the same amount of work.  The projects benefit from a quick turnaround because later work units often depend on the results of previous ones.  Hence, the higher end GPUs, like a 980 ti, will get a much bigger bonus for turning in a work unit in in 25% of the time it takes a GTX 750ti (not that that is the actual ratio, but you get the idea...).

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As others have implied but not made clear, folding isn't just about results, it's about getting results with faster being better.  That's why the more powerful GPUs have a higher ppd for the same amount of work.  The projects benefit from a quick turnaround because later work units often depend on the results of previous ones.  Hence, the higher end GPUs, like a 980 ti, will get a much bigger bonus for turning in a work unit in in 25% of the time it takes a GTX 750ti (not that that is the actual ratio, but you get the idea...).

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wow! that's what I'm talking about!  That's a really good sweet spot power-wise also - from what I've seen they'll produce at or close to the best performance per watt production too!  

 

Great choice :)

thanks just hope folding at home doesn't have any bottlenecks like it probably would for anything else

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not really - the huge core count systems were all the rage when they had a program named BigAdv (iirc).  It was specifically designed to be worked on by multi-core behemoths like whalers rigs and gave huge quick return bonuses (QRBs).  The program was experimental, and had a number of problems, such as increasing the number of cores required to qualify and alienating everyone who made a big commitment and investment only to be told they didn't qualify anymore.

 

Anyway, that program was discontinued in January, 2015.  see https://folding.stanford.edu/home/revised-plans-for-bigadv-ba-experiment/ if you want more details on the BigAdv project.

 

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If your budget is significantly under $1000 dollars, go with an aftermarket GTX970 for folding, they have amazing performance and wattage per dollar, and can overclock like crazy.

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