Need Advice for Watercooling loop

[AnTerZz]

Hello,

I think I'm going to invest into watercooling my computer at christmas, not only for better performance, but also for the looks.

I own an In Win 904 like this one : http://hpics.li/f264143

I would love to do something similar to this, as this is amazing : 

http://pcpartpicker.com/b/cfd6Mp

 

Firstly, I need to choose what type of loop i want,

I was thinking either go with this kit : https://shop.ekwb.com/ek-kit-x240 and install it the same way as the guy that did the build stated before did. But, the radiator being a 240mm, i  would put it on the back of the case like this http://hpics.li/8519c1f  The only problem is the rad is 6 cm wide.

 

Otherwise, i could buy this kit, https://shop.ekwb.com/ek-kit-l240-1   but then add this reservoir https://shop.ekwb.com/ek-res-x3-150   Would this be compatible ?

 

Also, I currently have an ATX card (Asus Z97 pro gamer) and need a Micro ATX to be able to fit the watercooling parts in this pretty small case, what card would you recommend for gaming, with at least 4 sata ports and 3 PCI slots. (if possible blue as my graphics card is windforce so blue)

 

Last, do you think i should watercool anything else, ram, graphics crad (Gigabyte G1 gaming GTX 970),

 

Cheers,

Antoine

[AnTerZz]

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Welcome to the Forums!

 

For a watercooling setup like that I usually like to recommend at least one 120mm rad space per component and more if your aiming for silent cooling while at load, say like a 360mm rad. The InWIN 904 isn't going to let proper airflow for a portion of your 240mm rad, why not go for something like the InWIN 909 instead since it has a 360mm space for rads while only being slightly larger.

[AnTerZz]

Welcome to the Forums!

 

For a watercooling setup like that I usually like to recommend at least one 120mm rad space per component and more if your aiming for silent cooling while at load, say like a 360mm rad. The InWIN 904 isn't going to let proper airflow for a portion of your 240mm rad, why not go for something like the InWIN 909 instead since it has a 360mm space for rads while only being slightly larger.

Thanks for answering, i already own the In win 904 so can't really change anything, i am now thinking about doing the exact same as this loop http://pcpartpicker.com/b/cfd6Mp ,

with 1 120mm rad and 1 92 mm rad.   What do you think of this : http://es.pcpartpicker.com/p/tTb4zy all i need to add is fittings and tubing right !

What do you think of this, i also need to change my motherboard (atx) to a microATX, what would you recommend for gaming, (blue scheme if possible)

 

Cheers, 

Antoine

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Thanks for answering, i already own the In win 904 so can't really change anything, i am now thinking about doing the exact same as this loop http://pcpartpicker.com/b/cfd6Mp ,

with 1 120mm rad and 1 92 mm rad. What do you think of this : http://es.pcpartpicker.com/p/tTb4zy all i need to add is fittings and tubing right !

What do you think of this, i also need to change my motherboard (atx) to a microATX, what would you recommend for gaming, (blue scheme if possible)

Cheers,

Antoine

If you can route the tube into the rear section to fit another 120mm rad that would be the best, ideally with rads that have a medium high FPI if they are thin rads to squeeze as much performance out of them.

As for the motherboard how about this one from MSI, another option would be to paint the heatsinks on your current board to match your color scheme:

http://ca.msi.com/product/motherboard/Z97M-G43.html#hero-overview

[AnTerZz]

If you can route the tube into the rear section to fit another 120mm rad that would be the best, ideally with rads that have a medium high FPI if they are thin rads to squeeze as much performance out of them.

As for the motherboard how about this one from MSI, another option would be to paint the heatsinks on your current board to match your color scheme:

http://ca.msi.com/product/motherboard/Z97M-G43.html#hero-overview

I was just thinking tha mobo looked great ! So ill go with that and unfortunatly wont be able to rout another rad, would you think those too are good enough (my cpu is 4690K oc) I could actually put a thicker 140mm rad at the back instead of the 92mm one.

What type of tubing should i use 10/13 ? 10/16 ? 12/16 ? 13/19 ?

Also lots of people say this is silly and prob won't look good/won't cool taht well, what do you think ?

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I was just thinking tha mobo looked great ! So ill go with that and unfortunatly wont be able to rout another rad, would you think those too are good enough (my cpu is 4690K oc) I could actually put a thicker 140mm rad at the back instead of the 92mm one.

What type of tubing should i use 10/13 ? 10/16 ? 12/16 ? 13/19 ?

Also lots of people say this is silly and prob won't look good/won't cool taht well, what do you think ?

 

Your temps might not be the best while at full load with a CPU and GPU with the smaller 92mm rad if you can fit the 140mm rad over the 92mm in the back then it would be much better. As for tubing thick wall tubing (6mm thickness) is usually best for tight curves and bends, as for larger or small diameter that's mainly up to what you like and what fittings you have readily available. 

[AnTerZz]

Your temps might not be the best while at full load with a CPU and GPU with the smaller 92mm rad if you can fit the 140mm rad over the 92mm in the back then it would be much better. As for tubing thick wall tubing (6mm thickness) is usually best for tight curves and bends, as for larger or small diameter that's mainly up to what you like and what fittings you have readily available. 

Just to make it clear, I don't think I am going to put the GPU on the loop, because i have the gigabyte G1 gaming Windforce 2.0 GTX970, it has a great 3 fan cooler on it, and i belive it is doing the job, so 1 140 rad and 1 120 should be plenty for my cpu no ?

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Just to make it clear, I don't think I am going to put the GPU on the loop, because i have the gigabyte G1 gaming Windforce 2.0 GTX970, it has a great 3 fan cooler on it, and i belive it is doing the job, so 1 140 rad and 1 120 should be plenty for my cpu no ?

Yes that would be enough if your not going to include the GPU into the loop.

[AnTerZz]

Yes that would be enough if your not going to include the GPU into the loop.

This is my final components, can you confirm everything i need is there and everything is compatible (i know there is a 120mm fan missing, i have an extra one at home)

http://es.pcpartpicker.com/p/BRQCTW

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This is my final components, can you confirm everything i need is there and everything is compatible (i know there is a 120mm fan missing, i have an extra one at home)

http://es.pcpartpicker.com/p/BRQCTW

 

Yes that all work you will need a total of 10 fittings though 2 per component.

[AnTerZz]

One last thing, is this https://shop.ekwb.com/ek-af-angled-90-g1-4-black what i need to use to get 90 degree angle fittings, do i combine it with a compression fitting ?

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One last thing, is this https://shop.ekwb.com/ek-af-angled-90-g1-4-black what i need to use to get 90 degree angle fittings, do i combine it with a compression fitting ?

 

Basically yes, you would use that and a compression fitting with the angled adapter.. 

[AnTerZz]

Ok thanks, 1 last think, looking at this again, http://pcpartpicker.com/b/cfd6Mp the pump i am using (doesnt have a res) will be above the reservoir, this will cause a problem won't it ...

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Ok thanks, 1 last think, looking at this again, http://pcpartpicker.com/b/cfd6Mp the pump i am using (doesnt have a res) will be above the reservoir, this will cause a problem won't it ...

 

If your side mounting the res it it will be a problem since the pump needs to always be below the res to ensure it never runs dry, probably also why they had a two res setup. You can however side mount pump combo units as long as the port that feeds into the pump from the tube res is not not pointing up.

https://shop.ekwb.com/ek-xres-140-ddc-3-2-pwm-elite-incl-pump

 

[AnTerZz]

If your side mounting the res it it will be a problem since the pump needs to always be below the res to ensure it never runs dry, probably also why they had a two res setup. You can however side mount pump combo units as long as the port that feeds into the pump from the tube res is not not pointing up.

https://shop.ekwb.com/ek-xres-140-ddc-3-2-pwm-elite-incl-pump

 

 

Are you sure i can mount the combo in my in win 904, are you sure they didnt mod anything ?

Also, i have a long graphics card (312mm)

 

So basically what you are saying is to replace my 150mm res by a 150mm pump-res combo ? 

All i need to do it to make 2 holes in the case right ?

 

Also, Don't you think that it would look nicer if the tubes are straight (my whole point is i want everything to look good) like in this pic on the right : http://hpics.li/8b0c39a  Would this require hard tubing and joints ?

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Are you sure i can mount the combo in my in win 904, are you sure they didnt mod anything ?

Also, i have a long graphics card (312mm)

So basically what you are saying is to replace my 150mm res by a 150mm pump-res combo ? 

All i need to do it to make 2 holes in the case right ?

Also, Don't you think that it would look nicer if the tubes are straight (my whole point is i want everything to look good) like in this pic on the right : http://hpics.li/8b0c39a  Would this require hard tubing and joints ?

Well for the res/combo unit if your planning to side mount it I would double check the measurements to ensure you have enough room, I really doubt you'll be able to mount it to the right had side with that limited space unless you get that super small pump/res unit like they have under the drive cages.

For straight runs it's more difficult on soft tubing so ideally hardline would be good for those kinds of work but would require different firings and more work overall.

[AnTerZz]

Do you agree it would look betther though with that kind of work. All it changes is i nee dmore fittings and then just a litttle extra time, 

For the pump-res, shall i put it instead of where i put the original long reservoir ?

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Do you agree it would look betther though with that kind of work. All it changes is i nee dmore fittings and then just a litttle extra time, 

For the pump-res, shall i put it instead of where i put the original long reservoir ?

 

For hardline you would also need the tools for cutting and bending it like heatgun, silicone mandrel to do that. I think a pump res either side mounted or the super short one below the hard drive are both good options either or would work great.

[AnTerZz]

Ok but how can i side mount it ? and as i won't be bending the heatgun, ill just need the cutting tool, furthmore, do you think the design with hardline will look better ?

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Ok but how can i side mount it ? and as i won't be bending the heatgun, ill just need the cutting tool, furthmore, do you think the design with hardline will look better ?

For side mounting there are reservoir brackets you can use to hold it sodeways. As for hardline it does look good if done right but you will need to bend it unless your plan is to use all fittings for bends which would be very costly.

[AnTerZz]

Ok, how do you think I can bring the price down with these parts ?

http://es.pcpartpicker.com/p/RBFdZL

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Ok, how do you think I can bring the price down with these parts ?

http://es.pcpartpicker.com/p/RBFdZL

You would only need 8 fittings now since your using a res/pump combo unit. For the mounting though you want to C clamps for side mounting not the spider which is vertical.

[AnTerZz]

Where can I find these C clamps ?

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Where can I find these C clamps ?

https://shop.ekwb.com/ek-res-x3-holder-60mm-2pcs