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update 30/12/15:

 

Finally got around to getting my solar powered BOINC rig running. Originally I had planned to use a dual xeon PC however the power draw is just too much and the calcs/watt just isnt enough higher to warrant using a dual-cpu system.

 

all in all I have done this on the cheap for fun. emphasis on cheap :-P

 

all up costs and parts list (all in AUD):

  • solar panels - 2x250w - $100
  • timber frame / plastic tubs - $50
  • solar charge controller - 20amp - $20
  • inverter - 600w pure sinewave - $110
  • long ass extension lead / wiring / relay - $40
  • office pc - i5-2400 - 4gb ram - amd 7350 - $free (worth around $200-$300)
  • old UPS batteries - 8x8amp - $free (worth around $5 each second hand)

total cost to me: $320

 

The system only uses 80~ watts of power under full load (comparatively my dual x5470 xeon rig uses 300 watts at idle...)

 

power where I am costs around $0.25/KWh so all in all its going to take 2+ years of usage to pay itself off :-P but honestly I could be running quite a bit more draw from the system during the day so I might look into throwing a few laptops or another pc in the mix - I also need to better ventilate the inverter box as I am getting thermal overloads...

 

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What program/workload should I contribute my project towards, and why? keeping in mind my servers will hard crash every day.

 

 

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If you want to go for maximum amount of efficiency I would skip converting to AC voltage completely and get yourself a really good quality DC to DC converter that can give you all the proper voltages for the system directly from the battery bank. If you need a separate ground line you can go with the old fashion copper wire to the water pipe solution as a safety thing.

 

http://www.hd-plex.com/HDPLEX-250W-Hi-Fi-DC-ATX-Power-Supply-16V-24V-Wide-Range-Voltage-Input.html

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Honestly, I'd get the i5 2400 and undervolt it as much as possible (without reducing clocks). It's the most efficient machine.

 

For the projects, I'd suggest playing with Boinc. World community grid, with their Mapping Cancer Markers and Outsmart Ebola Together checkpoint frequently. There's also Primegrid's newely released Genefer-15 apps, the CPU app takes only a few minutes to complete. Or the other short CPU apps (you'll see in the preferences page). Download a crapton of WUs, and then just remove the Wifi adapter to save on power. Upload stuff  all at once every few days.

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Hell no. He'll lose QRB. Also, the constant Wifi hogging needed will just rape his battery life. F@H aint suited for that kind of workload.

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If you want to go for maximum amount of efficiency I would skip converting to AC voltage completely and get yourself a really good quality DC to DC converter that can give you all the proper voltages for the system directly from the battery bank. If you need a separate ground line you can go with the old fashion copper wire to the water pipe solution as a safety thing.

 

http://www.hd-plex.com/HDPLEX-250W-Hi-Fi-DC-ATX-Power-Supply-16V-24V-Wide-Range-Voltage-Input.html

 

true - if I decide to chase efficiency then that would be a good way to go - I would be losing at least 20% power in the 12v DC - 240v AC - 12/5/3v DC process... the only advantage I have on the 240v AC setup is that my battery box/panels/inverter are 8 or so meters from my servers - carrying 12v DC over a 8 meter cable includes its own losses compared to 240v AC over the same distance

 

the same applies for the ground wire, I guess I can use some old speaker wire and run it from the inverter over to the water pipes. the ghetto crafter inside me is saying just use a powerboard inside the house and an old jug plug to create a "ground" tehehe

 

This allows me to plug this box into my home network rather than use a wifi dongle.

 

Honestly, I'd get the i5 2400 and undervolt it as much as possible (without reducing clocks). It's the most efficient machine.

 

For the projects, I'd suggest playing with Boinc. World community grid, with their Mapping Cancer Markers and Outsmart Ebola Together checkpoint frequently. There's also Primegrid's newely released Genefer-15 apps, the CPU app takes only a few minutes to complete. Or the other short CPU apps (you'll see in the preferences page). Download a crapton of WUs, and then just remove the Wifi adapter to save on power. Upload stuff  all at once every few days.

 

I think you might be right - there is a chance the xeons (being designed for energy efficiency and low voltage operation) may prove to offer some decent efficiency... 

 

the issue is my LGA1155 board is an OEM dell item so it dosnt have voltage control built in - I can disable cores but that's about it...

 

Thanks for the recommendations on workloads - short workloads are optimal given how I imagine my uptime will be... workloads need to be able to survive a power outage, or be very short to complete as to not waste energy on data that is lost.

 

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all in all - I want to get this working with what I have, and without investing any money in it. I have this gear lying around the place and some weekend time spare.

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Hell no. He'll lose QRB. Also, the constant Wifi hogging needed will just rape his battery life. F@H aint suited for that kind of workload.

 

whats QRB?

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whats QRB?

Quick Return Bonus. The faster you return the WU, the more points you earn. It's something Folding has, and I think should be removed.

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It would depend on the efficiency of the inverter going from DC to AC and the PSU going back to AC to DC again, but as for cabling something like that using a 12-10 awg wire for the length would be a good idea if you went that route to ensure low resistance and high current capability.

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decided to go with BOINC - contributing to world community grid and mind modeling

 

specs of computer:

 

i5-2400 (3.1ghz)

2gb ram

300gb raid1 array

n600 pcie wifi card

80 plus gold psu

 

specs of solar:

2x250w mono panels

600w pure sine wave inverter

40v/20amp PWM charge controller

nasty old car battery (will replace one day)

 

right now under full load the PC is pulling 75 watts of power - as long as my battery isnt too shit I reckon this setup will be fine for 24/7 operation

 

 

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This is a really cool idea. I have always thought of having a solar Bitcoin miner farm

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update:

 

Initial build is working. but not lasting the night. after a few nights of being totally drained the car battery I have been using is now a useless block of lead. Mainly the fault of my wiring... I wired the charger and inverter straight to the battery so there was no control over when the inverter would cut out, it would just keep working until it killed the battery... This was done as my charge controlers load output is only good for about 240watts - a spike in draw (turning on a PC) could damage the controller...

 

I have decided to rewire the system and use the controllers load cicuit to control a relay between the inverter and the battery... The controller can be programmed to cut out the load at certain voltages or on a time schedule... I will experiment with what works best.

 

This also means I will have excess power during the day and not enough batteries to store the power. So I have decided to go with a "slightly" more powerful PC - that is MUCH worse on electricity...

 

As well as replacing the car battery with a small array of old UPS batteries

 

"new" PC specs:

  • Dell precision T7400 workstation
  • dual Xeon e5430 quad-core
  • 12gb ECC-ddr2
  • GTX660
  • 1kw PSU (unsure on efficieny rating on this one it just shows "80 plus"

currently building the "new" pc and awaiting some fuses (to make sure the batteries don't explode) for the UPS batteries. Even though there is 20kgs of batteries there they are only about 10ah each... 10ah is roughly enough to supply a 100w power draw for 1 hour of time. so I expect this will only be enough to "idle" the PC for 8 hours... hence the requirement to use the charge controller to totally kill power to the system to prevent the batteries being killed.

 

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GPUs have much better folding efficiency and power than your CPU. I'd suggest disabling the CPU worker to save power.

Edit: power supplies also have much better efficiency when at around 50% load. I'd suggest swapping for a 450 or 550 watt PSU at some point (with higher efficiency as well).

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GPUs have much better folding efficiency and power than your CPU. I'd suggest disabling the CPU worker to save power.

Edit: power supplies also have much better efficiency when at around 50% load. I'd suggest swapping for a 450 or 550 watt PSU at some point (with higher efficiency as well).

 

thanks - I am using it mainly for BOINC and thats using CPU flat out, I think ill also use the GTX660 for F@H but will have to see how power usage goes...

 

good point on the power supply - the issue would be that dual-cpu server/workstation boards use more than 4-pin / 8-pin - ATX cpu power supply for example this T7400 uses a 20pin for the CPUs

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update: this thing works - edited op

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You should replace all batteries with some of these. They will provide so much more power for longer and last 300X longer. But then again the price http://www.maxamps.com/proddetail.php?prod=Lipo-22000-259-Pack

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You should replace all batteries with some of these. They will provide so much more power for longer and last 300X longer. But then again the price http://www.maxamps.com/proddetail.php?prod=Lipo-22000-259-Pack

 

not really a good choice... they are only 22ah each. LiPo is good for quick charge/discharge rate and has great power/weight ratios but the capacity/price ratio can't come near AGM or traditional lead acid.

 

to put it into perspective I could buy 400ah worth of AGM for that price

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This is a really neat setup, though the most amazing thing is a 250W solar panel only costing $50, godfuck that'd be like $600 normally no?! Maybe prices are dropping faster than I thought + used?

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This is a really neat setup, though the most amazing thing is a 250W solar panel only costing $50, godfuck that'd be like $600 normally no?! Maybe prices are dropping faster than I thought + used?

 

thanks :-)

 

A local business owner was selling 90 of these panel for $50 each - they failed to meet the local requirements for grid-tie in systems so he basically couldn't use them - bargain. between myself and two other friends we bought 24 panels from him

 

they are normally $200-300 per panel. 

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