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Taguig City. due to some circumstances i cant really go to gilmore and i dont think i can go to dynaquest either im 95% sure that i will be buying from PCX even though the prices there are a bit higher compared to dynaquest. im also considering an r9 380 instead of gtx 960, what do you think?

 

r9 380 = 10k

gtx 960 = 13k

 

huge price difference + same performance (atleast 9% better according to some youtube guy)

 

there's a dynaquest in makati. still can't go there? R9 380 FOR DAYSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS shoot for a 4gb 380 though if possible

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Budget: $700

Aim: Gaming

 

I am not very knowledgable about computers so I am really having a tough time choosing in which parts should i buy to replace my 8 year-old unit. I cannot shop online and my choices are very limited to what is available on the nearby computer store.

 

http://pcx.com.ph/components.html

http://dynaquestpc.com/

$1 = ₱50

 

Motherboard:

1. as long as it can hold an i5 4690 or i7-4790

2. must have 4 ram slots

3. will only use a single GPU

4. wont do any kinds of overclocking

5. cannot go more than $100

 

CPU:

1. i prefer intel

2. i have read somewhere that i7 is a must for rendering(maya?) but i can also settle for i5

3. no overclock

 

GPU:

1. nvidia

2. i will only use a single GPU

3. 2g DDR5 (or the cheapest 4g)

4. single monitor

5. games i play: Dota2, CS:GO, Civilization5, Skyrim

6. games i plan to play: DragonAge3, ElderScrollsOnline, and BlackDesert Online

 

PSU:

1. around $50

2. can i go lower than 500w?

3. Non-modular

4. must be 80+ bronze

 

Memory:

1. 4g min 8g max

2. can i use a slingle memory stick on a dual channel memory slot? :)

 

Case:

1. mid tower

2. i dont care what it looks like

 

Storage:

1. can i still use my old Hitachi HDT721010SLA360 ATA Device ?

2. no SSDs

 

 

PS:

i dont really muti-task and am used in playing games at the lowest settings around 20-25 fps

PPS:

i dont mind buying second hand parts (maybe except for the GPU)

 

 

Thanks!

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Budget: $700

Aim: 3D modeling + rendering(Maya), Gaming

 

I am not very knowledgable about computers so I am really having a tough time choosing in which parts should i buy to replace my 8 year-old unit. I cannot shop online and my choices are very limited to what is available on the nearby computer store.

 

http://pcx.com.ph/components.html

http://dynaquestpc.com/

$1 = ₱50

 

Motherboard:

1. as long as it can hold an i5 4690 or i7-4790

2. must have 4 ram slots

3. will only use a single GPU

4. wont do any kinds of overclocking

5. cannot go more than $100

 

CPU:

1. i prefer intel

2. i have read somewhere that i7 is a must for rendering(maya?) but i can also settle for i5

3. no overclock

 

GPU:

1. nvidia

2. i will only use a single GPU

3. 2g DDR5 (or the cheapest 4g)

4. single monitor

5. games i play: Dota2, CS:GO, Civilization5, Skyrim

6. games i plan to play: DragonAge3, ElderScrollsOnline, and BlackDesert Online

 

PSU:

1. around $50

2. can i go lower than 500w?

3. Non-modular

4. must be 80+ bronze

 

Memory:

1. 4g min 8g max

2. can i use a slingle memory stick on a dual channel memory slot? :)

 

Case:

1. mid tower

2. i dont care what it looks like

 

Storage:

1. can i still use my old Hitachi HDT721010SLA360 ATA Device ?

2. no SSDs

 

 

PS:

i dont really muti-task and am used in playing games at the lowest settings around 20-25 fps

PPS:

i dont mind buying second hand parts (maybe except for the GPU)

 

 

Thanks!

this is gonna be really hard to do for 700$ for what you are using it for

can you increase that budget

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$700 is really all that i can spend, maybe i can settle with just the i5

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Go for a Xeon for rendering. 1231 maybe?

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this is gonna be really hard to do for 700$ for what you are using it for

can you increase that budget

Yeah I have to agree, maybe $200 or so more and it could probably be do-able

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CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($242.99 @ SuperBiiz) 


Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H97-HD3 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($80.98 @ Newegg) 


Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($88.89 @ OutletPC) 


Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case  ($64.99 @ NCIX US) 

Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 620W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($64.99 @ SuperBiiz) 

Total: $694.15

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-10-07 00:15 EDT-0400

 

this is what I would build for the rendering stuff

but it doesn't have a gpu for gaming right now

you'd need to increase your budget for that

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Here's a build:

 
CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($242.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-B85M-DS3H-A Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($49.89 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: Zotac GeForce GTX 970 4GB Video Card  ($309.99 @ B&H) 
Case: Cooler Master N200 MicroATX Mid Tower Case  ($43.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Power Supply: Antec Green 450W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($39.99 @ Directron) 
Total: $757.84
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-10-07 00:16 EDT-0400
 
Why a Xeon?? It performs same as i7 and it's cheaper :D
Didn't include ssd and hdd since you have the 2nd one and don't want the 1st one...
And went over-budget, just 58USD more, not a big deal??
The only way to fit a gpu and don't go over-budget would be to swap that 970 that i put to a r9 380 and an ssd will probably fit in :P
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CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($242.99 @ SuperBiiz) 


Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H97-HD3 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($80.98 @ Newegg) 


Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($88.89 @ OutletPC) 


Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R9 380 4GB SOC Video Card  ($228.99 @ SuperBiiz) 

Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case  ($64.99 @ NCIX US) 

Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 620W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($64.99 @ SuperBiiz) 

Total: $923.14

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-10-07 00:17 EDT-0400

 

this is what I would add for the gaming

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I dont really need a storage and SSD, i can settle with the cheapest case and mobo plus i can buy my friend's i5 for $150.

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which i5 is it?

i5 4690, and im gonna take note of mosin40's xeon

 

@Official Czex: thanks! i will consider it

 

@techguru: thanks man

 

 

 

EDIT: sorry for the double post

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Here's a build:

 
CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($242.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-B85M-DS3H-A Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($49.89 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: Zotac GeForce GTX 970 4GB Video Card  ($309.99 @ B&H) 
Case: Cooler Master N200 MicroATX Mid Tower Case  ($43.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Power Supply: Antec Green 450W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($39.99 @ Directron) 
Total: $757.84
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-10-07 00:16 EDT-0400
 
Why a Xeon?? It performs same as i7 and it's cheaper :D
Didn't include ssd and hdd since you have the 2nd one and don't want the 1st one...
And went over-budget, just 58USD more, not a big deal??
The only way to fit a gpu and don't go over-budget would be to swap that 970 that i put to a r9 380 and an ssd will probably fit in :P

 

 

Xeon sounds really great, thanks man i will really consider it

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IDK, I mean... the prices on the pcpartpicker could be decent but if you add up Philippine tax, they're usually jacked up. Taena kangkong.

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The Xeon is extremely good for its price but unfortunately, scarce is an understatement for Xeons in the Philippines. I'm unaware of any computer store that sells that specific Xeon and the only way you could possibly obtain one is for someone to sell it on olx. If you were to order it online, the shipping cost and customs fee would make it even more expensive than an i7 not to mention the serviceability if it gets damaged during shipping or during its warranty period.

 

I do animation and I use an i5 but sad to say it's not enough for me, well at least for the stuff I do since it involves dynamics. A render would take me about 25+ minutes in a scene. You could preview the dynamics inside Maya but you won't see how the environment would influence it such as lighting, shadows, reflections unless you render it. But then again I only render to see how it would look and for cleaning noises, then would usually just preview it inside Maya but that's because I know what I want to see and if I touch the channels and attributes I know what would happen so I don't need to render every small thing that I change which might be troublesome for beginners as you might have to render every change you do as you might do too much, too less or might even touch the wrong attribute.

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The Xeon is extremely good for its price but unfortunately, scarce is an understatement for Xeons in the Philippines. I'm unaware of any computer store that sells that specific Xeon and the only way you could possibly obtain one is for someone to sell it on olx. If you were to order it online, the shipping cost and customs fee would make it even more expensive than an i7 not to mention the serviceability if it gets damaged during shipping or during its warranty period.

 

I do animation and I use an i5 but sad to say it's not enough for me, well at least for the stuff I do since it involves dynamics. A render would take me about 25+ minutes in a scene. You could preview the dynamics inside Maya but you won't see how the environment would influence it such as lighting, shadows, reflections unless you render it. But then again I only render to see how it would look and for cleaning noises, then would usually just preview it inside Maya but that's because I know what I want to see and if I touch the channels and attributes I know what would happen so I don't need to render every small thing that I change which might be troublesome for beginners as you might have to render every change you do as you might do too much, too less or might even touch the wrong attribute.

http://www.ipmart.com.my/main/product/Intel_Xeon_E3_1231V3_Processors_BX80646E31231V3_Intel_Warranty_463868.php?prod=463868

?

 

http://www.priceme.com.ph/Intel-Xeon-E3-1230-V3-3-30GHz/p-888038631.aspx

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couldn't he buy it from china?

with minimal tax/shipping

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then he's probably screwed on 90% of those parts we listed

 

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The Xeon is extremely good for its price but unfortunately, scarce is an understatement for Xeons in the Philippines. I'm unaware of any computer store that sells that specific Xeon and the only way you could possibly obtain one is for someone to sell it on olx. If you were to order it online, the shipping cost and customs fee would make it even more expensive than an i7 not to mention the serviceability if it gets damaged during shipping or during its warranty period.

 

I do animation and I use an i5 but sad to say it's not enough for me, well at least for the stuff I do since it involves dynamics. A render would take me about 25+ minutes in a scene. You could preview the dynamics inside Maya but you won't see how the environment would influence it such as lighting, shadows, reflections unless you render it. But then again I only render to see how it would look and for cleaning noises, then would usually just preview it inside Maya but that's because I know what I want to see and if I touch the channels and attributes I know what would happen so I don't need to render every small thing that I change which might be troublesome for beginners as you might have to render every change you do as you might do too much, too less or might even touch the wrong attribute.

 

this is exactly what i needed to know :)

i searched for xeons but i dont think i can get it so should i just go for a 2nd hand i7 4790? im pretty sure i can get it for a little bit over $200. i dont really want to overclock

 

there arent many parts that i can choose from and they are usually more expensive so it is really hard for someone like me to build a half decent unit :lol:

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this is exactly what i needed to know :)

i searched for xeons but i dont think i can get it so should i just go for a 2nd hand i7 4790? im pretty sure i can get it for a little bit over $200. i dont really want to overclock

 

there arent many parts that i can choose from and they are usually more expensive so it is really hard for someone like me to build a half decent unit :lol:

honestly in my opinion, the i5 you had for cheap would do fine. my sandy bridge i5 did fine in autodesk inventor.

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honestly in my opinion, the i5 you had for cheap would do fine. my sandy bridge i5 did fine in autodesk inventor.

those 2 cpus have the same 1150 slots right? should i just pick the gpu/psu/mobo first and decide for the cpu later?

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those 2 cpus have the same 1150 slots right? should i just pick the gpu/psu/mobo first and decide for the cpu later?

That sound like a good idea. Also, holy crap, only 84W TDP? Mine has 130w TDP O.o

 

that CPU will be easy to keep cool!

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That sound like a good idea. Also, holy crap, only 84W TDP? Mine has 130w TDP O.o

 

that CPU will be easy to keep cool!

hahaha i dont even know what that '84w tdp' means.. the power usage? maybe 500w is a bit too much? :)

 

 

also, im thinking of getting one of these:

http://dynaquestpc.com/product/asrock-h97m-anniversary/

http://dynaquestpc.com/product/asus-b85-pro-gamer-2/

 

i wont overclock, what do you think?

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