The s1155 nightmare, requesting upgrading tips

[JoshBour]

Hello guys,

so my current build uses a i7 3770k CPU with a cheap ASUS mobo. I used to have a better one but it stop working and I had to buy something really quick to continue my work.

 

I wanted to upgrade the mobo for a long time, since the one I have right now is really messing everything up (it doesn't even support sata3 and I use ssd)

However, I can't find any available on my country (Greece) or even amazon and the new ones I find are pricey for my needs.

 

So my question is, should I keep searching/spend the money for the mobo or look into upgrading the whole rig? 

I'm leaning towards upgrading.

 

If you too think upgrade is the answer, what would you recommend? I was thinking between 2011-3 or the newer 1151.

To help a bit, I am a web/app developer (main job) and music producer, so I host various kind of server stuff for my applications in my computer.

 I might play some games but not really crazy ones. 

 

I don't need a full rig, just your opinions on the cpu/mobo combinations and which socket is more appropriate for my needs

 

Thanks a lot for your time!

 

[The Cool n00B]

If you want 2011-3 you'll need DDR4 memory and the mobos are pretty expensive also.

[Sakkura]

See what LGA1155 boards you could get second hand, or what you could sell your 3770K for second hand. If the motherboards are hard to find or expensive, while the 3770K can be sold at a good price, then go for the big upgrade. If it's the other way around, stick with your 3770K.

[skyress3000]

If you want 2011-3 you'll need DDR4 memory and the mobos are pretty expensive also.

DDR4 isn't all that expensive now that Skylake is out... you can get a 16GB kit for around $100

[The Cool n00B]

DDR4 isn't all that expensive now that Skylake is out... you can get a 16GB kit for around $100

That's why I said the 2011-3 mobos are expensive, I didn't mention the DDR4. I've seen Fury X Black 16GB kits go for like $95. SSDs have also come down a lot, too. The SSD in my sig cost like $150 when I bought it, now a 250GB 850-Evo costs the same $150.

[19_blackie_73]

for normal use a 1150/1151 will do a good job and will not be that expensive. If you're happy with the current performance, i'd decide between these too:

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($326.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z97X-UD3H-BK ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($139.89 @ OutletPC)
Total: $466.88
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-10-06 08:04 EDT-0400

 

here you can take your old ram

 

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($359.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus Z170-A ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($159.89 @ OutletPC)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($54.99 @ Adorama)
Total: $574.87
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-10-06 08:06 EDT-0400

 

here oyu have to buy at least new ram, and a cooler if you don't have one (1155 coolers work here fine)

 

I'd recommend upgrade 1

[JoshBour]

If you want 2011-3 you'll need DDR4 memory and the mobos are pretty expensive also.

Hello! Yes I know that I will have to upgrade the memory as well, but if it's worth it I guess there is issue with that.

 

See what LGA1155 boards you could get second hand, or what you could sell your 3770K for second hand. If the motherboards are hard to find or expensive, while the 3770K can be sold at a good price, then go for the big upgrade. If it's the other way around, stick with your 3770K.

Hey! The thing is that most boards for 1155 are pretty bad, some don't support 1600mhz rams for example (that I use), some others don't even have sata3 or usb3 etc.

And then if I decide to buy one of the few new ones that goes for like 250€+, would it be worth it since I might upgrade in the next 1-2 years?

 

 

for normal use a 1150/1151 will do a good job and will not be that expensive. If you're happy with the current performance, i'd decide between these too:

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($326.99 @ NCIX US)

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z97X-UD3H-BK ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($139.89 @ OutletPC)

Total: $466.88

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-10-06 08:04 EDT-0400

 

here you can take your old ram

 

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($359.99 @ Newegg)

Motherboard: Asus Z170-A ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($159.89 @ OutletPC)

Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($54.99 @ Adorama)

Total: $574.87

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-10-06 08:06 EDT-0400

 

here oyu have to buy at least new ram, and a cooler if you don't have one (1155 coolers work here fine)

 

I'd recommend upgrade 1

Hey there! If price is no issue, would you still recommend the first one over the second?

Is there a reason for that or does it match my needs better?

Thanks a lot guys for your responses!

[The Cool n00B]

Hey there! If price is no issue, would you still recommend the first one over the second?

Is there a reason for that or does it match my needs better?

Thanks a lot guys for your responses!

They will both perform what you want them to similarly. The main different between skylake and Haswell is that Skylake has more PCI lanes. Apart from that, they will both perform nearly the same.

[Sakkura]

Hey! The thing is that most boards for 1155 are pretty bad, some don't support 1600mhz rams for example (that I use), some others don't even have sata3 or usb3 etc.

And then if I decide to buy one of the few new ones that goes for like 250€+, would it be worth it since I might upgrade in the next 1-2 years?

 

Most LGA1155 boards support those things just fine. I have a cheap LGA1155 board that runs DDR3-1600, two SATA3 SSDs, and has plenty of USB3 ports.

 

The reason I suggested buying a used board is that there are no LGA1155 boards being manufactured any longer, so there are few available in stores - often with inflated prices. On the other hand, if for example I was selling my Asrock Z75 Pro3, I wouldn't expect to get much more than 50€ for it.

[JoshBour]

Most LGA1155 boards support those things just fine. I have a cheap LGA1155 board that runs DDR3-1600, two SATA3 SSDs, and has plenty of USB3 ports.

 

The reason I suggested buying a used board is that there are no LGA1155 boards being manufactured any longer, so there are few available in stores - often with inflated prices. On the other hand, if for example I was selling my Asrock Z75 Pro3, I wouldn't expect to get much more than 50€ for it.

Oh I meant the ones that I can find in my country, should have specified that. Anyway I guess I can keep an eye out until I have the money to go for the full upgrade. Thanks a lot.

 

 

They will both perform what you want them to similarly. The main different between skylake and Haswell is that Skylake has more PCI lanes. Apart from that, they will both perform nearly the same.

Oh okay then, good to know. I guess will have to think/search about it a bit more since both upgrades don't have that much of a price difference. Thanks!

[The Cool n00B]

Oh okay then, good to know. I guess will have to think/search about it a bit more since both upgrades don't have that much of a price difference. Thanks!

A revision to my previous statement: After watching today's Vessel video, I now understand that the 6700K has a better IPC, which means Instructions per Clock. What that means for performance is that certain tasks, mainly CPU renders, will be faster on the 6700K. I know that Luke compared it to a 5820K, but the 5820K is a Haswell-based CPU. Broadwell introduced a 14nm process, and Skylake introduces a new CPU micro architecture. The Intel Tick Tock system is outlined here, where ticks are smaller processes and tocks are new architecture.

 

TL;DR Skylake has better performance in CPU-intensive tasks.

[JoshBour]

Hey, thanks a lot guys you all helped a lot, I decided to try to sell my CPU and upgrade my rig to skylake most probably.