Is my power-supply any good?

[DannyRyu]

thermaltake 600w tr2 bronze tr-600p
http://www.thermaltakeusa.com/products-model.aspx?id=C_00001656

 

How do you think it wiil be with OCing and what not?

[don_svetlio]

probably the worst.


As for OCing

[DannyRyu]

probably the worst.

As for OCing

Probably as in you've had experience or just guessing?

[don_svetlio]

Probably as in you've had experience or just guessing?

I've had a better TT PSU that ended in the junk pile - the TR is the lowest of the low in terms of quality - literally anything is better than that - even the Corsair VS are not as bad

[DannyRyu]

I've had a better TT PSU that ended in the junk pile - the TR is the lowest of the low in terms of quality - literally anything is better than that - even the Corsair VS are not as bad

interesting cause a lot of people say the TR600 non P version is bad but the TR600P is pretty solid. so I was kind of confused.

[don_svetlio]

interesting cause a lot of people say the TR600 non P version is bad but the TR600P is pretty solid. so I was kind of confused.

The only Thermaltake PSU series that is worth a damn are the ToughPower series - everything else is cheap garbage - whoever told you that is full of shit.

[DannyRyu]

The only Thermaltake PSU series that is worth a damn are the ToughPower series - everything else is cheap garbage - whoever told you that is full of shit.

its been written in plenty of reviews not just one person. anyways what do you recommend for a good 700 W PSU? for future reference?

[don_svetlio]

its been written in plenty of reviews not just one person. anyways what do you recommend for a good 700 W PSU? for future reference?

Anything from Tier 1 or 2

Take note: TR2 are tier 5

http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/406160-psu-ranking-and-tiers/

[STRMfrmXMN]

its been written in plenty of reviews not just one person. anyways what do you recommend for a good 700 W PSU? for future reference?

What are you powering? Unless you have dual 970s in your system 700W is overkill.

[DannyRyu]

What are you powering? Unless you have dual 970s in your system 700W is overkill.

I'll be SLIing or Crossfiring depending on my next GPU I get. with some heavy CPU And GPU OCing.

[STRMfrmXMN]

I'll be SLIing or Crossfiring depending on my next GPU I get. with some heavy CPU And GPU OCing.

Well if crossfiring 390s I'd suggest an 850W. If SLIing 970s I'd suggest 650W. So what kind of cards are you OCing?

[don_svetlio]

Well if crossfiring 390s I'd suggest an 850W. If SLIing 970s I'd suggest 650W. So what kind of cards are you OCing?

650W is not good for OCing 970s - stock each pulls 220W - 440W + 120W from the rest of the system you get 560W - OC the CPU and you get 600W - not enough headroom.

[STRMfrmXMN]

650W is not good for OCing 970s - stock each pulls 220W - 440W + 120W from the rest of the system you get 560W - OC the CPU and you get 600W - not enough headroom.

Dawg, they got 439w under full load http://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/geforce-gtx-970-sli-review,4.html

He's fine on 650W. That's the recommended minimum. 750W for 980s. 850W for 980tis.

[don_svetlio]

Dawg, they got 439w under full load http://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/geforce-gtx-970-sli-review,4.html

He's fine on 650W. That's the recommended minimum. 750W for 980s. 850W for 980tis.

once you OC power goes through the roof - remember the 1kW 780s?

[STRMfrmXMN]

once you OC power goes through the roof - remember the 1kW 780s?

970s are far more power efficient than 780s

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EDIT: This is probably a better graph:

 

[don_svetlio]

970s are far more power efficient than 780s

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EDIT: This is probably a better graph:

 

That's still 200-220W per card

[don_svetlio]

Once you raise the power limit by 20% - you get 20x220/100=44 more watts added for a total of 260W. 260x2=520+120 system=640W #Pushing it

[STRMfrmXMN]

That's still 200-220W per card

Something is wrong with the second graph. A GTX 980 uses less power than a GTX 970? Nah. Same goes with a 970 using more power than a 780ti. I don't trust that graph. The first one I would trust if they were using some sort of test bench setup with a 5960X but with a more common pairing like a 4690k they'll get a 970 system to around 250W...

 

Moar edit:

 

He gets to 350W under load with a super overclocked system with a 680 and 3770k. I just can't see an OCd 970 using more power than an OCd 680.

[don_svetlio]

Something is wrong with the second graph. A GTX 980 uses less power than a GTX 970? Nah. Same goes with a 970 using more power than a 780ti. I don't trust that graph. The first one I would trust if they were using some sort of test bench setup with a 5960X but with a more common pairing like a 4690k they'll get a 970 system to around 250W...

 

Moar edit:

 

He gets to 350W under load with a super overclocked system with a 680 and 3770k. I just can't see an OCd 970 using more power than an OCd 680.

an OCed 780 Ti and 3770K got 420W on OC3D

[don_svetlio]

[STRMfrmXMN]

Once you raise the power limit by 20% - you get 20x220/100=44 more watts added for a total of 260W. 260x2=520+120 system=640W #Pushing it

I found a guy with a bit of a ghetto setup but he measures in dual 970s overclocked on a 620W PSU:

 

TL;DR, 465 watts when efficiency and the watt-o-meter has been calculated out. Heck, even @Aniallation ran dual 970s on his 550W Antec.

[don_svetlio]

I found a guy with a bit of a ghetto setup but he measures in dual 970s overclocked on a 620W PSU:

 

TL;DR, 465 watts when efficiency and the watt-o-meter has been calculated out. Heck, even @Aniallation ran dual 970s on his 550W Antec.

Dual? I thought he ran 1 G1 970

[STRMfrmXMN]

Dual? I thought he ran 1 G1 970

He ran two for a period of time, can't remember how long ago.

 

Also, the OC3D video had a 780ti OCd + 4670K OCd at 390W *from the wall*. RM450 is gold efficiency rated. Do efficiency math and that means he gets to 331W under load, SLI assuming we also SLI the CPU (using my math magic ) he gets to 662 W under load with an overclocked SLI system and two CPUs. Subtract 100W-ish for the "second CPU" that I used from rounding up and he's at 561W with an overclocked 4670k and two 780tis. Lots of power for sure but it's plenty on 650W, especially considering the 780ti uses more power than the 970.

 

EDIT: Farther into the video he gets 420W so 420*.85 = 357W. Not a low amount for one GPU but double that system in its entirety and you get a 700W usage scenario with, again, a magical second CPU in there for math reasons.

[don_svetlio]

He ran two for a period of time, can't remember how long ago.

 

Also, the OC3D video had a 780ti OCd + 4670K OCd at 390W *from the wall*. RM450 is gold efficiency rated. Do efficiency math and that means he gets to 331W under load, SLI assuming we also SLI the CPU (using my math magic ) he gets to 662 W under load with an overclocked SLI system and two CPUs. Subtract 100W-ish for the "second CPU" that I used from rounding up and he's at 561W with an overclocked 4670k and two 780tis. Lots of power for sure but it's plenty on 650W, especially considering the 780ti uses more power than the 970.

He had spikes to 440W from the wall tho

Still - while he *should* be fine with a 650W - I'd much rather grab a 750W since you also need to account for spikes - the guy with the 780s (non-Ti) that's pulling 1200W has spikes to 1500W - he managed to brick an AX1500i with them

[STRMfrmXMN]

He had spikes to 440W from the wall tho

Still - while he *should* be fine with a 650W - I'd much rather grab a 750W since you also need to account for spikes - the guy with the 780s (non-Ti) that's pulling 1200W has spikes to 1500W - he managed to brick an AX1500i with them

I would probably do 750W just because I've had shitty luck with PSUs that deteriorate over time and have lost the ability to output their rated wattage. Still I wouldn't bat an eye if I saw a dual 970 system with a good 650W.