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Not for me. Not a month ago and not today. I got my RM for $99US. Closest to it then and now is $109. I probably could have split my order and found a deal on another site but my shipping was free because I got everything in one place. I got one box containing all my parts.

 

Again, I am not saying the Corsair is always the cheapest, I'm arguing that saying it's always overpriced is a generalization that I have provided evidence showing is not true.

 

Where you live=/=Where I live.

99 USD? EVGA G2 and GS are about the same price and are better.

 

Anyways, Corsair is the only option in many not North American countries so it makes sense there but there's nothing from Corsair that makes any sense here 90% of the time.

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99 USD? EVGA G2 and GS are about the same price and are better.

Anyways, Corsair is the only option in many not North American countries so it makes sense there but there's nothing from Corsair that makes any sense here 90% of the time.

I posted a link, please check it out.

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I posted a link, please check it out.

You posted it highest price first.... not sure if you meant to post price low to high but whatever.

 

And here you go:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371079

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817207033

 

And from not-Newegg:

http://pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-power-supply-110b20750vr

http://pcpartpicker.com/part/antec-power-supply-hcg750m

http://pcpartpicker.com/part/antec-power-supply-hcg850m

http://pcpartpicker.com/part/seasonic-power-supply-ss750am

 

Remember, the 80+ Efficiency doesn't really matter in terms of quality. Those are perfectly good options and cost less money.

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You posted it highest price first.... not sure if you meant to post price low to high but whatever.

And here you go:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371079

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817207033

And from not-Newegg:

http://pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-power-supply-110b20750vr

http://pcpartpicker.com/part/antec-power-supply-hcg750m

http://pcpartpicker.com/part/antec-power-supply-hcg850m

http://pcpartpicker.com/part/seasonic-power-supply-ss750am

Remember, the 80+ Efficiency doesn't really matter in terms of quality. Those are perfectly good options and cost less money.

those are good options and I may have gone with one of them if I was only concerned with wattage and modular design. I went with a 750w PSU even though it's WAY more than my PC requires so as to not have the fan in the PSU operate. You need a PSU set up for that to take advantage of that. My RMs fan has never run, not once. So for me it made sense. If I had had an extra 20 bucks I would have gone with another PSU. The Corsair was chosen for its price.

If anyone asks you never saw me.

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Please tell me you are lying when you say they make the best power supplys. No doubt, they have some quality power supplys but they are usally over priced or not very good. Also they do not even make their own power supplys, every single,one of them is a rebrand.

"ONE OF THE BEST" no the best. rebrand or not, they are still good and i would still recommend them even if they are, either way both parties still win.

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"ONE OF THE BEST" no the best. rebrand or not, they are still good and i would still recommend them even if they are, either way both parties still win.

Overpriced rebrands are not something you should reccodmend. As mentioned above you can 90% of the time find a BETTER or same quality PSU for a lower amount of money. They are not worth anyones time, it's not like you get special things from power supplies such as Corsair Link, ect. I would not classify them as one of the best, I do not truly know if they would go in my top 10 reccodmended PSU brands.

 

 

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those are good options and I may have gone with one of them if I was only concerned with wattage and modular design. I went with a 750w PSU even though it's WAY more than my PC requires so as to not have the fan in the PSU operate. You need a PSU set up for that to take advantage of that. My RMs fan has never run, not once. So for me it made sense. If I had had an extra 20 bucks I would have gone with another PSU. The Corsair was chosen for its price.

Both the PSUs I linked have that feature...?

 

Overpriced rebrands are not something you should reccodmend. As mentioned above you can 90% of the time find a BETTER or same quality PSU for a lower amount of money. They are not worth anyones time, it's not like you get special things from power supplies such as Corsair Link, ect. I would not classify them as one of the best, I do not truly know if they would go in my top 10 reccodmended PSU brands.

This.

I'll impromptu list them out.

 

Seasonic

EVGA

XFX

Super Flower

Delta

Enhance

Antec

Sentey

Eh, OK fine, Corsair has many good PSUs on there.

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Both the PSUs I linked have that feature...?

 

This.

I'll impromptu list them out.

 

Seasonic

EVGA

XFX

Super Flower

Delta

Antec

Sentey

Eh, OK fine, Corsair has many good PSUs on there.

Could throw enhance on that list if you wanted :P. Corsair has plenty of good PSUs, they also have plenty of ones that are overpriced also.

 

 

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Could throw enhance on that list if you wanted :P. Corsair has plenty of good PSUs, they also have plenty of ones that are overpriced also.

Edited, but yes, although Corsair has many good PSUs I wouldn't buy one because I know everything they sell is more expensive than something else xD

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Both the PSUs I linked have that feature...?

 

No, they don't... If I wanted a fan running in the power supply I would have gotten a 550w.

 

EDIT* But you did include a PSU with LEDs, so that counts for something.

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No, they don't... If I wanted a fan running in the power supply I would have gotten a 550w.

Yes, yes they do. That isn't a Corsair-exclusive feature. My EVGA 550W GS has that and it never comes on unless I start up the PC. Many Seasonic units also have a silent fan as well.

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Yes, yes they do. That isn't a Corsair-exclusive feature. My EVGA 550W GS has that and it never comes on unless I start up the PC. Many Seasonic units also have a silent fan as well.

The two PSUs you linked to do not have that feature. I used NewEgg, on NewEgg the Corsair RM750 is the least expensive 750w PSU with the features I wanted. That blows a hole in "Corsair is over priced"

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The two PSUs you linked to do not have that feature. I used NewEgg, on NewEgg the Corsair RM750 is the least expensive 750w PSU with the features I wanted. That blows a hole in "Corsair is over priced"

Antec Edge 750W: http://www.hardocp.com/article/2014/09/02/antec_edge_750w_power_supply_review

http://www.kitguru.net/components/power-supplies/zardon/antec-edge-750w-psu-review/

Mentions of "whisper quiet" (as many Seasonic platforms are).

 

XFX TS: No official reviews from Jonnyguru, techpowerup, etc. Many Amazon reviews mention that it's quiet however. http://www.amazon.com/XFX-ATX12V-EPS12V-Supply-P1750GTS3X/dp/B00JNBGNGM

 

EVGA B2: Doesn't have an option to turn it off though it, again, is very quiet. There are official reviews but none make mention of the fan and how loud it is from my quick search..

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817438028

Many reviews state it as being quiet again.

 

Antec HCG: Based of the Seasonic S platform. I have built PCs with these PSUs and they are inaudible. The fan moves a fair bit of air too.

 

Seasonic M12: These are a mixed bag. The newer versions are louder and are better. The older versions are quieter and commonly DOA. Maybe not the best option. 

 

Nonetheless I'd like you to find a Corsair PSU that you believe has a competitive value price. The RM has shitty secondary capacitors. The PSUs I linked above are built better. Find something from Corsair that has a better value for USD than any other PSU or is made substantially better than any other PSU for some amount of money better or the same to an equivalent EVGA G2/GS/B2 Antec, Seasonic, XFX PSU etc.

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From your choice in website. http://www.hardocp.com/article/2013/11/13/corsair_rm750_750w_power_supply_review/6#.Vf3g-JeWZYc

 

I got the cheapest 750w gold I could that was silent. Not quiet, silent. I'm not expecting a BMW, I'm expecting a Chevy. Which I got.

 

I traded silence for top end reliability, and since I will never stress my PSU that works for me. You don't like Corsair PSU, that's your opinion.

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From your choice in website. http://www.hardocp.com/article/2013/11/13/corsair_rm750_750w_power_supply_review/6#.Vf3g-JeWZYc

 

I got the cheapest 750w gold I could that was silent. Not quiet, silent. I'm not expecting a BMW, I'm expecting a Chevy. Which I got.

 

I traded silence for top end reliability, and since I will never stress my PSU that works for me. You don't like Corsair PSU, that's your opinion.

I would definitely recommend not looking for a specific 80 + Efficiency tier in the future, OK? Not sure why you were looking for an 80 Plus Gold unit but it's something to point out.

 

And from HardOCP 

 

 

"The capacitor selection, in general, is interesting on the secondary but it is certainly not the good kind of interesting."

Though you say you'll never load up your PSU I imagine that, for a few months of the year, where you live it gets hot. Cheap capacitors are things that can die without being under heavy stress.

 

I know you're trying to justify your not-so-great purchase by arguing that it's silent but it's got no other premises that have actually been validated. Is it the worst PSU ever? No. Is it a good value proposition? No.

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Corsair RM are usually overpriced as hell - secondary capacitors are meh and some rookie soldering mistakes by CWT - burnt capacitors and such,

For the same price you can usually pick up a SeaSonic S12G or G-series. S12G doesn't have 0-RPM fan mode but the fan speed is so slow it might as well be off. G-series has that feature and is usually either the same price or cheaper, features full japanese capacitors and is an overall better platform.

An FYI - I picked up the S12G for about 50$ cheaper than the RM650W

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I would definitely recommend not looking for a specific 80 + Efficiency tier in the future, OK? Not sure why you were looking for an 80 Plus Gold unit but it's something to point out.

 

And from HardOCP 

 

Though you say you'll never load up your PSU I imagine that, for a few months of the year, where you live it gets hot. Cheap capacitors are things that can die without being under heavy stress.

 

I know you're trying to justify your not-so-great purchase by arguing that it's silent but it's got no other premises that have actually been validated. Is it the worst PSU ever? No. Is it a good value proposition? No.

I'm not trying to justify a purchase, if I had spent half again or twice as much that would be true. I spent 99 US dollars and got a 99 dollar PSU. Why you don't recommend looking for a high efficiency PSU I don't understand.

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I'm not trying to justify a purchase, if I had spent half again or twice as much that would be true. I spent 99 US dollars and got a 99 dollar PSU. Why you don't recommend looking for a high efficiency PSU I don't understand.

Efficiency does not remotely say anything about quality. M12II and CX are both bronze - you don't see M12II exploding like the CX. FSP Raider Bronze can fry GPUs with bad voltage regulation. Thermaltake Smart Gold is crappy as hell.

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I'm not trying to justify a purchase, if I had spent half again or twice as much that would be true. I spent 99 US dollars and got a 99 dollar PSU. Why you don't recommend looking for a high efficiency PSU I don't understand.

If you spent half as much that would be a super good PSU. If you spent twice as much that would be a lot of money you wasted when you could get an EVGA P2.

 

As for efficiency I wrote a guide (in my sig, was pinned to the PSU/Cases subforum) that kind of goes over it. In short, higher 80 Plus efficiency doesn't actually save you much of any money on your power bill. You'd have to be running a super hungry PC 24/7 to really see the difference in efficiency saving you money on your bill. I can't remember the exact PSUs I did the math with but I believe it went something like this:

 

80 + Bronze vs gold

Used Portland electricity as a standard for the cost at various times of the day

to save time I used the max price it could ever cost during the day as the amount of money used throughout one day (so overestimating by quite a bit, showing how negligible the differences were)

Assumed a 600W system was under load all day, something like an OCd 8350 and two GTX 970s. 

Total calculated money saved was like 5 dollars in a month and that was with extremely exaggerated specs to make things easier on my math brain.

Realistically, with a lower load spread out throughout the day you'd save maybe 5 dollars in a year. 

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Efficiency does not remotely say anything about quality. M12II and CX are both bronze - you don't see M12II exploding like the CX. FSP Raider Bronze can fry GPUs with bad voltage regulation. Thermaltake Smart Gold is crappy as hell.

That I agree with, efficiency is not correlated with quality. That said no one is calling the RM series a Pinto. You can pay WAY too much for them, but that's true of everything.

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That I agree with, efficiency is not correlated with quality. That said no one is calling the RM series a Pinto. You can pay WAY too much for them, but that's true of everything.

Thing is - there are ALWAYS better alternatives for cheaper. I mean - really, they are priced high because of the "Corsair" sticker - nothing more. Fact of the matter, a SeaSonic, Delta or Super Flower PSU is better in every way possible

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If you spent half as much that would be a super good PSU. If you spent twice as much that would be a lot of money you wasted when you could get an EVGA P2.

 

As for efficiency I wrote a guide (in my sig, was pinned to the PSU/Cases subforum) that kind of goes over it. In short, higher 80 Plus efficiency doesn't actually save you much of any money on your power bill. You'd have to be running a super hungry PC 24/7 to really see the difference in efficiency saving you money on your bill. I can't remember the exact PSUs I did the math with but I believe it went something like this:

 

80 + Bronze vs gold

Used Portland electricity as a standard for the cost at various times of the day

to save time I used the max price it could ever cost during the day as the amount of money used throughout one day (so overestimating by quite a bit, showing how negligible the differences were)

Assumed a 600W system was under load all day, something like an OCd 8350 and two GTX 970s. 

Total calculated money saved was like 5 dollars in a month and that was with extremely exaggerated specs to make things easier on my math brain.

Realistically, with a lower load spread out throughout the day you'd save maybe 5 dollars in a year. 

Sorry for the double quote.

 

I didn't go with efficiency for power savings. If that was the case I would have gone with a platinum 550w, which I almost did.

If anyone asks you never saw me.

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Sorry for the double quote.

 

I didn't go with efficiency for power savings. If that was the case I would have gone with a platinum 550w, which I almost did.

Internet weirdness happens :P

 

One thing about efficiency is, in an attempt to achieve those high efficiency stats on paper lots of OEMs will suffer the performance in places so that an efficiency goal can be reached.

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Internet weirdness happens :P

 

One thing about efficiency is, in an attempt to achieve those high efficiency stats on paper lots of OEMs will suffer the performance in places so that an efficiency goal can be reached.

That might be the case for some, but the higher efficiency does make it harder to make them cheaper. I was very careful in my wording.

 

I appreciate the advice, I was only disturbed by the blanket statements over anything else. I won't lose any sleep over my PSU and you don't have a Corsair PSU in your case. :P

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