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Thanks @ThomasD - any recs as far as where to get Cat6a cables?

 

So you're saying to not go with a switch panel in my media room/closet, rather, just have a 5/8 port switch in the rooms with >2+ hardwired devices?

 

 

 

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Cat 6a is a standard, so buy whatever bulk in-wall rated cable is least expensive and your installer is willing to pull.  Buy an RJ-45 termination kit as well, then you can use the extra cable to make your own patch cables - much, much cheaper than buying commercial product.  Make sure it includes a tester to verify your handiwork.

 

http://www.amazon.com/Neewer-Internet-Network-Tester-Analyzer/dp/B008P9YIGA/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1441077384&sr=8-4&keywords=rj-45+kit

 

You'll still need a 'main' switch (the backbone) attached to your modem  - that is where the run to each room you wish to service starts.   Get something a little larger than your needs, but there is really no need to go haywire.  Sixteen would probably be enough, but 24 might not be any more expensive, and If I were you I'd certainly want at least one run to the garage, the entrance area, the deck, etc. And would also treat the kitchen/living room as two separate rooms. 

 

Once at the room that's where I suggest adding in small switches (the nodes) if you need to connect multiple devices within that room (e.g. you have a room where you want to connect a PC,  and a Fire TV box, etc.)  This, as opposed to making multiple cable runs to the same room.  That way if your needs change you simply add or relocate the nodes as needed.

 

Overall the idea is to keep the in-wall installation simple, and logical, then expand out as needed.

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Hi all,

 

I'm currently completing a home remodel (gut renovation) and am fortunate to be able to setup my own home network solution/system from scratch with the help of my electrical subcontractor. 

 

I have the full design/plans enclosed. Any thoughts, feedback and cost-effective yet "upgradeable" setups would be much appreciated!

 

Currently own/use:
  • ISP: Time Warner Cable 300mb/s DL
  • Router: ASUS RT-AC68U
  • Modem: Motorola Surfboard SB6183
 
Wish list (work in progress, although almost complete in my mind):
  • Cat6 or Cat7 bulk cables and outlets (3 wall outlets in each room that includes power, Cat6/7 wall outlet and coax for rooms with TVs) 
  • Coax cable (DirectTV) in rooms with TVs
  • Home automation system (HomeKit/Amazon): my current "playbook"
  • Exterior security cameras (Costco Lorex Security Cameras)
  • Home security TBD
  • 4K UHD TVs
  • Projector (for my backyard)
 
Open ended questions based on my wish list and existing equipment above:
 

Cat 6 cables: what type of cable should I buy (shielded/unshielded/UTP/riser-rated)?

8 or 16 or 24 port switch necessary?

 

Thank you for your time and consideration! I appreciate the open and honest feedback!

 

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You might want to check out Linus's video when he updates his Mother in Laws house in Asia. I'm pretty sure he talked about cat 6 vs 7 etc.

 

Also, NICE HOUSE. Where is this located? I'm guessing the south or midwest

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You might want to check out Linus's video when he updates his Mother in Laws house in Asia. I'm pretty sure he talked about cat 6 vs 7 etc

 

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Since you have the luxury of hardwire I'd leave wireless for hand helds and guests.

 

So, one run of Cat6a  to each room where you think you might have a desire for connectivity.

 

Meaning pretty much every room.  Except maybe the bathrooms...  That is your backbone, and you'll need a switch big enough for all rooms.

 

You could go Cat7, but the runs do not look long enough to make that a necessity.

 

After that I think small 5 or 8 port switches are a better/more flexible option in rooms where you might end up with multiple hard wired devices.  Five port gigabit switches are now less than $25.00.  They will be your nodes.

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Since you have the luxury of hardwire I'd leave wireless for hand helds and guests.

 

So, one run of Cat6a  to each room where you think you might have a desire for connectivity.

 

Meaning pretty much every room.  Except maybe the bathrooms...  That is your backbone, and you'll need a switch big enough for all rooms.

 

You could go Cat7, but the runs do not look long enough to make that a necessity.

 

After that I think small 5 or 8 port switches are a better/more flexible option in rooms where you might end up with multiple hard wired devices.  Five port gigabit switches are now less than $25.00.  They will be your nodes.

Thanks @ThomasD - any recs as far as where to get Cat6a cables?

 

So you're saying to not go with a switch panel in my media room/closet, rather, just have a 5/8 port switch in the rooms with >2+ hardwired devices?

 

 

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Thanks @ThomasD - any recs as far as where to get Cat6a cables?

 

So you're saying to not go with a switch panel in my media room/closet, rather, just have a 5/8 port switch in the rooms with >2+ hardwired devices?

 

 

 

Thanks!

Cat 6a is a standard, so buy whatever bulk in-wall rated cable is least expensive and your installer is willing to pull.  Buy an RJ-45 termination kit as well, then you can use the extra cable to make your own patch cables - much, much cheaper than buying commercial product.  Make sure it includes a tester to verify your handiwork.

 

http://www.amazon.com/Neewer-Internet-Network-Tester-Analyzer/dp/B008P9YIGA/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1441077384&sr=8-4&keywords=rj-45+kit

 

You'll still need a 'main' switch (the backbone) attached to your modem  - that is where the run to each room you wish to service starts.   Get something a little larger than your needs, but there is really no need to go haywire.  Sixteen would probably be enough, but 24 might not be any more expensive, and If I were you I'd certainly want at least one run to the garage, the entrance area, the deck, etc. And would also treat the kitchen/living room as two separate rooms. 

 

Once at the room that's where I suggest adding in small switches (the nodes) if you need to connect multiple devices within that room (e.g. you have a room where you want to connect a PC,  and a Fire TV box, etc.)  This, as opposed to making multiple cable runs to the same room.  That way if your needs change you simply add or relocate the nodes as needed.

 

Overall the idea is to keep the in-wall installation simple, and logical, then expand out as needed.

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