2 AMD 390's VS. AMD Fury(not X)

[Misteryman321]

I completely agree that I am more of a Gamer and I don't do much multi-threading work. I was thinking about an i5 and seeing how I can squeeze in a new mobo and i5 with the new graphics card. I'm open to both opinions, I did say that if my 8350 was going to bottleneck the 2 390s or the 1 Fury I'd like to know and what to choose in order to handle them. the main games I usually play are Bf3,Crysis 3,bf4, and planetside 2

[Ramontes]

And yes, you will want to upgrade your CPU because even a single 390 will be bottlenecked by an FX8. Take a look at my writeup on the matters:

 

http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/401217-more-updated-fx-vs-intel-for-gaming/

 

Simple conclusions - Why Intel i3/i5 are better for gaming then competing AMD FX:

 

- Generally better gaming performance (see below)

- Lower power consumption

- Lower heat output, heat output that the stock cooler can actually handle, eliminating the need for an aftermarket cooler for a quiet PC

- Upgradability: Buy an i3 now and upgrade to a massively more powerful i7 later while keeping the same motherboard. Buy an FX8 now, and be stuck with it until next mobo upgrade

- Greater motherboard selection, no need for fancy VRMs (see below)

- More modern technologies: PCIe 3.0, native USB 3.0/3.1, on-die integrated graphics (in case of GPU failure, can keep using your PC), etc

 

- Better IPC: Every MHz does more with Intel.

 

More cores does not mean better, if you can't use all of them. Intel cores are not twice as powerful as FX cores (given at stock), but if you can only use half of the cores on your FX then what's the point of having so many?

 

And before people think it, there is no bias here, I am an AMD CPU user. I don't regret my purchase because I did it back in the day when AMD was still highly competitive with Intel's first-gen Core-i CPUs, but here today, I'm just giving cold hard facts.

 

Gaming performance

Grand Theft Auto V

 

 

FX6 and FX8 fall between i3 and i5

 

The Witcher 3

 

 

FX6 and FX8 fall behind respective i3 and i5

 

Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare

 

 

A game optimized pretty darn well for multi-threaded CPUs, still can't see the FX8 pull away from i5

 

Batman Arkham Knight

 

 

Even the top-of-the-line FX 9590 can't catch up to i3

 

Metal Gear Solid V: Ground Zeroes

 

 

Lowest-end i3 can compete with FX, but even a 0.4GHz higher model and Intel starts to pull away

 

Project CARS

 

 

Once again FX6 and FX8 falling behind respective i3 and i5

 

Far Cry 4

 

 

I'm sure you can see the pattern here

 

If you note in some of these benchmarks, sometimes FX4 is actually ahead of FX6, because it is running at a higher frequency on each of the cores. These are examples of poor multi-threaded optimization in games. Many AAA titles still can't use more then 4 cores, so 4 FX cores at 3.8GHz is better then 6 FX cores at 3.5GHz.

 

VRMs - what are they and why are they important:

 

When talking about AM3+ boards you'll often hear the term VRMs. These are Voltage Regulation Modules, they are what turn the PSU's 12V into the ~1.4V (FX) your CPU will take. So the higher the power draw of your CPU, the more work the VRMs have to do. On Intel boards this isn't a big deal because at stock speeds you won't see more then 88W of CPU TDP, but you can't trust these same VRMs with the 125W FX chips. Overloading motherboard VRMs can actually lead to them burning out, causing a dead motherboard and possibly a fire hazard.

 

Read more about VRMs: http://www.overclock.net/a/about-vrms-mosfets-motherboard-safety-with-high-tdp-processors

 

Price:

(This is where the text comes in so get your English and math comprehension skills ready)

 

 

People think that FX is cheaper, and therefore is better for the money, and they'd be willing to make that sacrifice in performance for a bit of sacrifice in cost, but in reality, the difference is negligible. Take a look at these comparisons. Again this continues on the fact that you'll want a board with good VRMs for reliability on AM3+, while it's pretty much whatever with locked Intel chips. For this reason we'll be comparing using probably the best "cheap" AM3+ board, the Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3P, with it's 8+2 phase VRMs, compared to a budget Intel H97 board.

 

FX-6300 vs i3

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

 

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor  ($96.88 @ OutletPC) 

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3P ATX AM3+ Motherboard  ($79.98 @ OutletPC) 

Total: $176.86

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-07-05 19:59 EDT-0400

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

 

CPU: Intel Core i3-4160 3.6GHz Dual-Core Processor  ($108.95 @ SuperBiiz) 

Motherboard: ASRock H97M Anniversary Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($64.89 @ OutletPC) 

Total: $173.84

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-07-05 20:01 EDT-0400

 

$3 cheaper for the i3, and keep in mind as we proved above, the i3s are more then capable of competing with FX8 and even FX9 chips, only in the worst case scenario being around the same as FX6. On top of that, the benefits of Intel as listed above.

 

FX-8320 vs i5

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

 

CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor  ($134.99 @ Amazon) 

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3P ATX AM3+ Motherboard  ($79.98 @ OutletPC) 

Total: $214.97

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-07-05 20:03 EDT-0400

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

 

CPU: Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($166.95 @ SuperBiiz) 

Motherboard: ASRock H97M Anniversary Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($64.89 @ OutletPC) 

Total: $231.84

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-07-05 20:04 EDT-0400

 

 

$17 more for the i5, for much higher performance and pretty much zero bottleneck with any single GPU in any game, as opposed to the struggling FX...

 

Cooler

 

Do note that these builds are NOT with an aftermarket cooler. While the stock Intel coolers are fine for their accompanying chips, the coolers bundled with 125W FX chips aren't really up to the job, and can become VERY loud under load. If you want a quiet PC you'll want to invest in an aftermarket cooler. The cheapest one worth buying to quiet down an FX chip is the Zalman CNPS5X, which is $17. 

 

http://pcpartpicker.com/part/zalman-cpu-cooler-cnps5xperforma

 

This eliminates the price gap between the FX8 and i5, and makes the i3 choice $20 cheaper then the FX6 choice.

 

But what if I don't live in the USA?

 

 

Canada

 

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

 

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor  ($122.99 @ NCIX) 

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3P ATX AM3+ Motherboard  ($109.75 @ Vuugo) 

Total: $232.74

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-07-05 20:12 EDT-0400

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

 

CPU: Intel Core i3-4160 3.6GHz Dual-Core Processor  ($136.50 @ shopRBC) 

Motherboard: ASRock H97M Anniversary Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($93.98 @ Newegg Canada) 

Total: $230.48

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-07-05 20:12 EDT-0400

 

 

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

 

CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor  ($169.75 @ Vuugo) 

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3P ATX AM3+ Motherboard  ($109.75 @ Vuugo) 

Total: $279.50

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-07-05 20:35 EDT-0400

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

 

CPU: Intel Core i5-4440 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($225.00 @ Vuugo) 

Motherboard: MSI H81M-E34 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($66.00 @ Vuugo) 

Total: $291.00

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-07-05 20:14 EDT-0400

 

UK

 

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

 

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor  (£79.19 @ Aria PC) 

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3P ATX AM3+ Motherboard  (£64.54 @ More Computers) 

Total: £143.73

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-07-06 01:14 BST+0100

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

 

CPU: Intel Core i3-4160 3.6GHz Dual-Core Processor  (£84.53 @ Ebuyer) 

Motherboard: ASRock H97M Anniversary Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  (£69.47 @ Amazon UK) 

Total: £154.00

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-07-06 01:14 BST+0100

 

 

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

 

CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor  (£108.13 @ CCL Computers) 

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3P ATX AM3+ Motherboard  (£64.54 @ More Computers) 

Total: £172.67

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-07-06 01:15 BST+0100

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

 

CPU: Intel Core i5-4440 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor  (£137.36 @ Ebuyer) 

Motherboard: MSI H81M-E34 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  (£34.68 @ CCL Computers) 

Total: £172.04

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-07-06 01:15 BST+0100

 

 

Kangaroo Land

 

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

 

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor  ($145.00 @ CPL Online) 

Motherboard: MSI 970 GAMING ATX AM3+ Motherboard  ($145.00 @ CPL Online) 

Total: $290.00

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-07-06 10:25 AEST+1000

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

 

CPU: Intel Core i3-4160 3.6GHz Dual-Core Processor  ($152.00 @ CPL Online) 

Motherboard: ASRock H97M Anniversary Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($99.00 @ IJK) 

Total: $251.00

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-07-06 10:26 AEST+1000

 

 

 

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

 

CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor  ($205.00 @ CPL Online) 

Motherboard: MSI 970 GAMING ATX AM3+ Motherboard  ($145.00 @ CPL Online) 

Total: $350.00

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-07-06 10:25 AEST+1000

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

 

CPU: Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($246.00 @ Centre Com) 

Motherboard: ASRock H97M Anniversary Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($99.00 @ IJK) 

Total: $345.00

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-07-06 10:26 AEST+1000

 

​Deutschland

 

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

 

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor  (€99.90 @ Caseking) 

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3P ATX AM3+ Motherboard  (€85.09 @ Amazon Deutschland) 

Total: €184.99

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-07-06 02:23 CEST+0200

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

 

CPU: Intel Core i3-4160 3.6GHz Dual-Core Processor  (€119.95 @ Amazon Deutschland) 

Motherboard: ASRock H97M Anniversary Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  (€76.89 @ Amazon Deutschland) 

Total: €196.84

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-07-06 02:23 CEST+0200

 

 

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

 

CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor  (€139.90 @ Caseking) 

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3P ATX AM3+ Motherboard  (€85.09 @ Amazon Deutschland) 

Total: €224.99

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-07-06 02:23 CEST+0200

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

 

CPU: Intel Core i5-4440 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor  (€189.90 @ Caseking) 

Motherboard: MSI H81M-E34 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  (€56.18 @ Amazon Deutschland) 

Total: €246.08

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-07-06 02:23 CEST+0200

 

 

(more to be added)

 

Around the world the price differences do change and often the gap grows but there is never a point where the Intel option is "overpriced" compared to Intel, considering the performance you get.

 

awesome some graphs, thanks for the info posts are always better with sources. i think the op should take this guys advice

[Misteryman321]

Idk if anyone is still looking at this Forum post but i did a quick Amazon Cart change up and see if this is a good build.

Mobo:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00KO6F8YI?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=ox_sc_act_title_2&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

 

Processor:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00KPRWB9G?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=ox_sc_act_title_1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

​Graphics:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00ZGF158A?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=ox_sc_act_title_1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

Case:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00NGMIBUU?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=ox_sc_act_title_5&smid=A3DRD2WX13H6ZQ

Monitor(freesync):

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00VRCLHYS?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=ox_sc_act_title_8&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

Mouse:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00MYTSDU4?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=ox_sc_act_title_7&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

[SteveGrabowski0]

I'm going to make a couple of assumptions:

1. You already have a decent aftermarket CPU cooler since you have an FX-8350

2. You have a good power supply since you're running an FX-8350 and a 7970

3. You have an extra 140mm/120mm fan you can throw in for intake into the S340 (it comes with no front intake fan)

 

I wouldn't worry about getting an adaptive sync monitor with a GPU as good as a GTX 980 Ti, which you can get on a $1500 budget

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

 

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($259.86 @ OutletPC) 

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z97X-Gaming 5 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($129.89 @ OutletPC) 

Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 980 Ti 6GB Video Card  ($649.99 @ Amazon) 

Case: NZXT S340 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($69.99 @ Amazon) 

Monitor: Asus PB278Q 60Hz 27.0" Monitor  ($402.99 @ Amazon) 

Total: $1512.72

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-08-25 00:05 EDT-0400

 

If you do want FreeSync though, 390 CF sounds good. I just hope you have the PSU to run it lol.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

 

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($259.86 @ OutletPC) 

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z97X-Gaming 5 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($129.89 @ OutletPC) 

Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 390 8GB Video Card (2-Way CrossFire)  ($329.98 @ SuperBiiz) 

Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 390 8GB Video Card (2-Way CrossFire)  ($329.98 @ SuperBiiz) 

Case: NZXT S340 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($69.99 @ Amazon) 

Monitor: Acer XG270HU 144Hz 27.0" Monitor  ($449.99 @ B&H) 

Total: $1569.69

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-08-25 00:18 EDT-0400

[Misteryman321]

 

I'm going to make a couple of assumptions:

1. You already have a decent aftermarket CPU cooler since you have an FX-8350

2. You have a good power supply since you're running an FX-8350 and a 7970

3. You have an extra 140mm/120mm fan you can throw in for intake into the S340 (it comes with no front intake fan)

 

I wouldn't worry about getting an adaptive sync monitor with a GPU as good as a GTX 980 Ti, which you can get on a $1500 budget

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

 

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($259.86 @ OutletPC) 

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z97X-Gaming 5 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($129.89 @ OutletPC) 

Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 980 Ti 6GB Video Card  ($649.99 @ Amazon) 

Case: NZXT S340 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($69.99 @ Amazon) 

Monitor: Asus PB278Q 60Hz 27.0" Monitor  ($402.99 @ Amazon) 

Total: $1512.72

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-08-25 00:05 EDT-0400

 

If you do want FreeSync though, nothing but the Fury X makes sense. 4GB is still plenty of VRAM. I don't know why PCpartpicker is saying the S340 and Fury X aren't compatible though, the S340 has a back exhaust that fits a 120mm fan. Maybe the rad is too thick???

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

 

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($259.86 @ OutletPC) 

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z97X-Gaming 5 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($129.89 @ OutletPC) 

Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 Fury X 4GB Video Card  ($648.99 @ SuperBiiz) 

Case: NZXT S340 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($69.99 @ Amazon) 

Monitor: Acer XG270HU 144Hz 27.0" Monitor  ($449.99 @ B&H) 

Total: $1558.72

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-08-25 00:11 EDT-0400

 

 

Alright cool. I actually didn't have any spare fans for the s340, I was going to find cheap corsair fans to put into there. but everything else you were right, I have a Coolermaster 850W, and a coarsair h100i. I might put this off just for another few days till I can get paid and put more money into the budget. I like the Fury X but I don't feel that I should be buying it cause it is new tech. I'd much prefer the 980ti over the Fury X. That's why I was thinking of getting dual 390's.

[SteveGrabowski0]

Alright cool. I actually didn't have any spare fans for the s340, I was going to find cheap corsair fans to put into there. but everything else you were right, I have a Coolermaster 850W, and a coarsair h100i. I might put this off just for another few days till I can get paid and put more money into the budget. I like the Fury X but I don't feel that I should be buying it cause it is new tech. I'd much prefer the 980ti over the Fury X. That's why I was thinking of getting dual 390's.

 

Crap, I edited my post to do a CF 390 build with the FreeSync monitor! I don't think I'd trust an 850W Cooler Master PSU to power CF 390 though. Which PSU is it you have?

[Misteryman321]

Crap, I edited my post to do a CF 390 build with the FreeSync monitor! I don't think I'd trust an 850W Cooler Master PSU to power CF 390 though. Which PSU is it you have?

 

Oh, alright then your build is a lot better , and my psu wasn't a Cooler master. its a Raidmax 835W

http://www.amazon.com/Raidmax-835AP-135mm-Watt-Blue/dp/B00DHFABT0/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1440476638&sr=1-1&keywords=Raidmax+835&pebp=1440476640171&perid=1TRV1K26AQDA7TCXDMNZ

[SteveGrabowski0]

Alright cool. I actually didn't have any spare fans for the s340, I was going to find cheap corsair fans to put into there. but everything else you were right, I have a Coolermaster 850W, and a coarsair h100i. I might put this off just for another few days till I can get paid and put more money into the budget. I like the Fury X but I don't feel that I should be buying it cause it is new tech. I'd much prefer the 980ti over the Fury X. That's why I was thinking of getting dual 390's.

 

If you have an H100i I'd go with a different case, so that you don't have a big rad in front blocking access to cool air for your GPU. Newegg has the Fractal Define S for $70 if you don't care about a side window, but it's $100 if you want the window. 

 

 

Phanteks Enthoo Pro is another option to consider, at about $100.

 

The S340 can't mount a top radiator though.

[Misteryman321]

If you have an H100i I'd go with a different case, so that you don't have a big rad in front blocking access to cool air for your GPU. Newegg has the Fractal Define S for $70 if you don't care about a side window, but it's $100 if you want the window. 

 

 

Phanteks Enthoo Pro is another option to consider, at about $100.

 

The S340 can't mount a top radiator though.

 

Okay, I'm making minimum wage right now ($8.50 an hour) so by the time its payday I would have earned around $600-700...I can put $300 into my build then, bumping my budget to $1,800. I'd still like to have the dual 390's. It just give me more breathing room.

[SteveGrabowski0]

Oh, alright then your build is a lot better , and my psu wasn't a Cooler master. its a Raidmax 835W

http://www.amazon.com/Raidmax-835AP-135mm-Watt-Blue/dp/B00DHFABT0/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1440476638&sr=1-1&keywords=Raidmax+835&pebp=1440476640171&perid=1TRV1K26AQDA7TCXDMNZ

 

I wouldn't power even a single 390 on a Raidmax PSU. Under no circumstance should you power $1500 worth of hardware on that power supply, bite the bullet and buy a nice 650W 80+ bronze or more built by either a Seasonic or a Super Flower. The EVGA G2 power supplies are incredible and have ten year warranties, and are the way to go if you're planning a multi-GPU setup. Raidmax though is a fire hazard, I would never in a million years trust one to put out its advertised power. Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but I have never seen a Raidmax PSU get a good review.

[Misteryman321]

I wouldn't power even a single 390 on a Raidmax PSU. Under no circumstance should you power $1500 worth of hardware on that power supply, bite the bullet and buy a nice 650W 80+ bronze or more built by either a Seasonic or a Super Flower. The EVGA G2 power supplies are incredible and have ten year warranties, and are the way to go if you're planning a multi-GPU setup. Raidmax though is a fire hazard, I would never in a million years trust one to put out its advertised power. Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but I have never seen a Raidmax PSU get a good review.

 

I updated the Pc partpicker list...its going to have to be around $1,800. So lets see what I can do since i'm no longer upgrading my pc i'm making a whole new one. http://pcpartpicker.com/p/WRKHMp

[SteveGrabowski0]

RealHardTechX recommends 1000W for R9 390 CF.

 

http://www.realhardtechx.com/index_archivos/Page362.htm

 

I would go with nothing less than an EVGA G2 1000W for something so power hungry.

 

http://pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-power-supply-120g21000xr

 

But having to go that highend on PSU, I think I'd just buy the 980 Ti build I recommended first with the Asus 60 Hz 1440p IPS panel. I didn't realize 390 CF needed so much power. Damn it sucks that GSync is so ridiculously overpriced right now.

[Misteryman321]

RealHardTechX recommends 1000W for R9 390 CF.

 

http://www.realhardtechx.com/index_archivos/Page362.htm

 

I would go with nothing less than an EVGA G2 1000W for something so power hungry.

 

http://pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-power-supply-120g21000xr

 

But having to go that highend on PSU, I think I'd just buy the 980 Ti build I recommended first with the Asus 60 Hz 1440p IPS panel. I didn't realize 390 CF needed so much power.

Are you saying ditch the 2 390's and go for a 980 Ti? I'm not biased or anything, I've just had more luck with AMD in past builds.

[SteveGrabowski0]

Are you saying ditch the 2 390's and go for a 980 Ti? I'm not biased or anything, I've just had more luck with AMD in past builds.

 

Honestly, I'm starting to feel weird about these recommendations, throwing your money around, as I'd never pay that much for a system for myself. And there are some real downsides with going with Nvidia, namely that GSync monitors cost a lot more than do FreeSync. But looking at this benchmark, the MSI Gaming GTX 980 Ti looks to compete really well with the R9 295x2, which should be pretty close to how R9 390 CF will perform since the 295x2 is two watercooled 290x in CF.

 

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GTX_980_Ti_Gaming/1.html

[Misteryman321]

Honestly, I'm starting to feel weird about these recommendations, throwing your money around, as I'd never pay that much for a system for myself. And there are some real downsides with going with Nvidia, namely that GSync monitors cost a lot more than do FreeSync. But looking at this benchmark, the MSI Gaming GTX 980 Ti looks to compete really well with the R9 295x2, which should be pretty close to how R9 390 CF will perform since the 295x2 is two watercooled 290x in CF.

 

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GTX_980_Ti_Gaming/1.html

Well then, maybe I should just upgrade my GPU's and powersupply then? instead of building a whole new pc? the only thing missing from this build for being complete is new Ram really.

[SteveGrabowski0]

Well then, maybe I should just upgrade my GPU's and powersupply then? instead of building a whole new pc? the only thing missing from this build for being complete is new Ram really.

 

I think I'd suggest holding out on all purchases other than the PSU until the new games come out in November to see how the adoption for DirectX12 is and whether it can alleviate the FX-8350 bottleneck DirectX11 has. That's so much money to spend on a system when making minimum wage, you can blow that money on trying to fuck bitches instead. I know though, back when I was 19 I built a $2000 system with this monster CRT monitor, and it was crazy playing GTA 3 at 1600x1200 when all my friends were playing it at 480p. Hell, now I play at 1080p, which is barely a higher resolution than the 1600x1200 I played at 15 years ago lol.

[Misteryman321]

I think I'd suggest holding out on all purchases other than the PSU until the new games come out in November to see how the adoption for DirectX12 is and whether it can alleviate the FX-8350 bottleneck DirectX11 has. That's so much money to spend on a system when making minimum wage, you can blow that money on trying to fuck bitches instead. I know though, back when I was 19 I built a $2000 system with this monster CRT monitor, and it was crazy playing GTA 3 at 1600x1200 when all my friends were playing it at 480p. Hell, now I play at 1080p, which is barely a higher resolution than the 1600x1200 I played at 15 years ago lol.

That's like exactly where I am at...but yeah...maybe. get the psu,graphics card, and monitor...deal with the bottleneck and see if the bottleneck disappears with DX12, and hold the rest of money for the new Zen processor?