MATX for an FX8350

[Seapets]

hi all,

As above really i need a MATX for an fx8350 and i honestly dont know which one to get anyone got any recommendations?

Thanks Seapets

[Prysin]

@Seapets

follow your own topic please

 

Do you already own the 8350?

if not, buy a 8320e instead. Yes it is slower, but most AM3+ mATX boards do NOT come with 8+2 phase power delivery. This means that a 8350, while it will fit in the socket on the motherboard, the motherboard itself cannot give it enough power, so it will throttle every time it tries to turbo. This will cause the CPU to operate at very unstable frequencies as it will dip and spike constantly. In the long run, using a FX 8350 with a board without 8+2 phase delivery will cause the motherboard to burn out.

[rtpb5642]

@Seapets

follow your own topic please

 

Do you already own the 8350?

if not, buy a 8320e instead. Yes it is slower, but most AM3+ mATX boards do NOT come with 8+2 phase power delivery. This means that a 8350, while it will fit in the socket on the motherboard, the motherboard itself cannot give it enough power, so it will throttle every time it tries to turbo. This will cause the CPU to operate at very unstable frequencies as it will dip and spike constantly. In the long run, using a FX 8350 with a board without 8+2 phase delivery will cause the motherboard to burn out.

if he doesent own an 8350 he should be buying an i5 not an 8320e

[Seapets]

@Seapets

follow your own topic please

 

Do you already own the 8350?

if not, buy a 8320e instead. Yes it is slower, but most AM3+ mATX boards do NOT come with 8+2 phase power delivery. This means that a 8350, while it will fit in the socket on the motherboard, the motherboard itself cannot give it enough power, so it will throttle every time it tries to turbo. This will cause the CPU to operate at very unstable frequencies as it will dip and spike constantly. In the long run, using a FX 8350 with a board without 8+2 phase delivery will cause the motherboard to burn out.

 

Welp looks like im taking back this nice little cube case ohwell thanks for the insight

[STRMfrmXMN]

hi all,

As above really i need a MATX for an fx8350 and i honestly dont know which one to get anyone got any recommendations?

Thanks Seapets

Did you already buy the 8350? If so then you should be using an ATX board. If not then buy an Intel Core i5.

[QueenDemetria]

hi all,

As above really i need a MATX for an fx8350 and i honestly dont know which one to get anyone got any recommendations?

Thanks Seapets

Gigabyte 78lmt-usb3, best AM3+ mATX board hands down. The VRM may only be 4+1, but its a strong 4+1 VRM solution(and 4+1 is NOT a measurement or power, so shut up fanboys. AMPs is). I run a 8320 OC'd to 4.2GHz on this board, but I don't recommend this board for overclocking.

[Prysin]

if he doesent own an 8350 he should be buying an i5 not an 8320e

Sure, only if he doesnt own one.

[Sir Asvald]

hi all,

As above really i need a MATX for an fx8350 and i honestly dont know which one to get anyone got any recommendations?

Thanks Seapets

Replace it for an i5 4460. If it's in your budget. 

[Seapets]

I already own the 8350 and its in a atx at the moment i just liked this particular case and it was on sale in a shop local to me so i grabbed one, no big deal

[Prysin]

Gigabyte 78lmt-usb3, best AM3+ mATX board hands down. The VRM may only be 4+1, but its a strong 4+1 VRM solution(and 4+1 is NOT a measurement or power, so shut up fanboys. AMPs is). I run a 8320 OC'd to 4.2GHz on this board, but I don't recommend this board for overclocking.

4+1 is a measurement of the ability of the VRM to even deliver the power needed.

It would be very interesting ot see how that FX of yours perform in tasks that uses 8 cores rather then just 4. Because that is when the 8+2 comes into play. It all comes down to the phase delivery circuitry. The CPU itself is NOT meant to run off 4+1. The pins that lets electricity into the CPU is NOT configured for 4+1 only, its meant to run 8+2 for max performance.

 

Ive had a FX 8320 myself. Ive learnt a thing or two about it over the 2 years i used it.... Starving it of power, that was not a good idea

[Sam Z Man]

A micro atx board and FX-8350 belongs in a cookbook under a recipe for soup.

[QueenDemetria]

4+1 is a measurement of the ability of the VRM to even deliver the power needed.

It would be very interesting ot see how that FX of yours perform in tasks that uses 8 cores rather then just 4. Because that is when the 8+2 comes into play. It all comes down to the phase delivery circuitry. The CPU itself is NOT meant to run off 4+1. The pins that lets electricity into the CPU is NOT configured for 4+1 only, its meant to run 8+2 for max performance.

 

Ive had a FX 8320 myself. Ive learnt a thing or two about it over the 2 years i used it.... Starving it of power, that was not a good idea

Power "Phases" is one of the biggest misconceptions in the PC industry, because its really manufactures using terms that don't equate to "power" and using them as if they do. Voltage and amps are a measurement of power, but since voltage is a common variable(i.e. We can assume all FX chips are running somewhere in between 1.2 and 1.4v) AMPs is what really shows what boards can do. If a board can supply a lot of amps then great, you can suck a lot of power from it, but if it doesn't then you know, RIP.

 

Power Phases are just an indication of the quality of the VRM's ability to supply power in the way of pulse width modulation(PWM), since constant current is no longer used with PC's. Since there is only 4 phases instead of (lets say) 8 phases, the power will be rough and each phase will have to work harder(per time, as an unknown variable), but it theoretically can still deliver the same amount of power as an 8 phase design. Think of it this way: You can have less more powerful phases, or more not as powerful phases. Asus debunked this when 24+ phase motherboards were starting to hit the market, since they were able to dominate those boards with only a 16 phase(or even less!) design. This is very similar to IPC/cores with CPU's, how it doesn't matter how many cores(or phases) you have, but it matters how much IPC(or current capacity) you have.

 

On my 4.2GHz 8320 on the 78lmt-USB3, I ran Folding@Home for a month straight with no throttling, this board can handle it(although I will say I was at the boards limit). I now use it for rendering video, VM's, and games, so all 8 cores are used .

 

I'm an engineer that has built plenty of these PWM circuits, I know whats up(and I'm also into marketing, so I know how things work with this too).

[Nena Trinity]

No there is none that wont melt...

 

If you wanna go M-ATX go for FM2+!