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High End Gaming Laptop: Alienware or Asus?

I'm not really looking for a barebones laptop anyway lol.  I like flashy shit.  I love that feeling when I take a laptop or desktop component out of the box and just about cream my pants.

I wasn't recommending it barebones. It's rebranded by a ridiculous amount of companies. You're not going to get one looking flashy though. But if you want to pay more for a worse laptop that's up to you

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worse is a matter of perspective lol.  Flashier laptops tend to have better cooling because they're larger machines.

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worse is a matter of perspective lol.  Flashier laptops tend to have better cooling because they're larger machines.

No, it's not a matter of perspective. It's:

i7-4790K (desktop CPU) + 980M with the best 17" laptop cooling + 2 HDD slots + 2 M.2 SSD slots + potential unlocked BIOS and power limits + 330W power brick capability

vs

i7-4710HQ/4980HQ + 980M with less good laptop cooling + 4 M.2 slots + 1 HDD slot + paid unlocked BIOS from Svet (no power limit control) + 230W power brick capability (and costs more)

 

It's not even a contest of opinion. Clevo simply has, flat out, the best performance/gaming machines. Want something fairly thin, the P6xxSx series is the best of the thinner laptops (though it's not the thinnest laptop line). Want something thicker, the P7xxZM is the way to go as I showed above. Want a SLI laptop? My model is the king. 660W PSU capability, 120Hz screen capability, 2 x HDD + 2 x mSATA + 1 x ODD (can be used as HDD slot), unlocked BIOS capability, full power control, socketed CPUs/GPUs, easy to access internals... the only thing I could even begin to think about for the GT80 is that the mechanical keyboard has no match, if that's your thing.

 

Everything else is a sacrifice of either power, speed, cooling, user control and/or sockets for parts. And usually costs more.

I have finally moved to a desktop. Also my guides are outdated as hell.

 

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RoG Asus all the way

please.

just'

horrid build quality from Alienware

coming from an Ex Owner 

and the fact that the specs on the RoG are better and its cheaper?

Better CPU (same GPU)  other then that same exact specs. 

Edit:

you'll also get criticized from everyone with an Alienware. Happened to me. I won't be caught dead with anything other then MSI Asus or XPS 13 now.

 

When did you own an alienware laptop? I had one of the recent ones, and the build quality was fantastic.

Asus is a better made laptop overall. Alienware is loaded with bloatware and a bunch of crap you just don't need. I mean what can you expect, they're owned and manufactured by dell now who is notorious for making systems that don't last more than a year. Or well, any dell that has ever been in my family has never lasted over a year. So definitely Asus. I have an Asus laptop (not gaming) and it's amazing. Performance has decreased over the past two years I've had it and nothing has gone wrong with it at all. Asus is a great brand. But you should check out some other brands, or just check out custom sites such as http://www.cyberpowerpc.com . That's where I bought my gaming laptop from and it's absolutely amazing. I've only had it for about 7 months but still. It's never let me down and I don't expect it to let me down anytime soon. If you aren't interested in any of those though then go with the Asus. You will definitely regret having an Alienware.

I've had alienware laptops, and they really don't come with very much bloatware. My Asus ultrabook had more

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When did you own an alienware laptop? I had one of the recent ones, and the build quality was fantastic.

I've had alienware laptops, and they really don't come with very much bloatware. My Asus ultrabook had more

2013 model

absolutely horrid 

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2013 model

absolutely horrid 

2014 model.

 

pretty damn good

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2014 model.

 

pretty damn good

I do like the chassi design, But I prefer Origins hardware

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2013 model

absolutely horrid 

 

I have a 2013 Alienware 14 at home as well, the build quality is okay, why do you say it's horrible? Other than the fans ramping up when playing CSGO, that is quite a good machine.

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Msi doesn't make bad laptops either although I'm not sure how competitive the pricing is.

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I have a 2013 Alienware 14 at home as well, the build quality is okay, why do you say it's horrible? Other than the fans ramping up when playing CSGO, that is quite a good machine.

constant thermal throttle, slowest boot time ever even after a clean install 

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constant thermal throttle, slowest boot time ever even after a clean install 

 

I think it's just yours.

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Maybe get an Asus UX303LB or UX303LN (Broadwell + 900 series gpu, Haswell + 800 series gpu).

They're not that powerful but they're the best ultrabook out there for their price range (only dual-cores and an 840m or 940m depending on year), much better than the intergrated gpus.

They seem to be getting good reviews and my friend personally has one (actually I just received one in the mail today, tho the screen brightness seems to not be working in Windows 10 for the 1080p model :/ ).

Check up some benchmarks and see if it's got enough frames for your liking, with the extra money you can just throw at a desktop or buy a new phone or something. If you don't do many LANs you don't really need a really expensive gaming laptop.

 

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Go for Asus since gaming Laptop really need an amazing cooling system.

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No, it's not a matter of perspective. It's:

i7-4790K (desktop CPU) + 980M with the best 17" laptop cooling + 2 HDD slots + 2 M.2 SSD slots + potential unlocked BIOS and power limits + 330W power brick capability

vs

i7-4710HQ/4980HQ + 980M with less good laptop cooling + 4 M.2 slots + 1 HDD slot + paid unlocked BIOS from Svet (no power limit control) + 230W power brick capability (and costs more)

 

It's not even a contest of opinion. Clevo simply has, flat out, the best performance/gaming machines. Want something fairly thin, the P6xxSx series is the best of the thinner laptops (though it's not the thinnest laptop line). Want something thicker, the P7xxZM is the way to go as I showed above. Want a SLI laptop? My model is the king. 660W PSU capability, 120Hz screen capability, 2 x HDD + 2 x mSATA + 1 x ODD (can be used as HDD slot), unlocked BIOS capability, full power control, socketed CPUs/GPUs, easy to access internals... the only thing I could even begin to think about for the GT80 is that the mechanical keyboard has no match, if that's your thing.

 

Everything else is a sacrifice of either power, speed, cooling, user control and/or sockets for parts. And usually costs more.

 

I have a 2012 P151EM1 (Sager NP9130), and I have to agree with the value for money. This thing might be heavy for me personally, but it was a beast for $1300AUD. At the time, nothing came close to being good value. If I had to buy a new laptop, I'd certainly go with them again. Sacrificing 'looks' for power is worth it.

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Sacrificing 'looks' for power is worth it.

It's called buying for function over form

 

Some people really do require a function of a thin laptop; not going to deny that. But then they shouldn't be looking for powerhouses.

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It's called buying for function over form

 

Some people really do require a function of a thin laptop; not going to deny that. But then they shouldn't be looking for powerhouses.

 

Yeah form is a massively significant decision, since a laptop is a mobile platform, even its aesthetics can be important if it has to fit into somebodies lifestyle

 

As long as somebody understands the sacrifices they are making, and are happy to make them, then fair enough, ie sacrifice portability for performance, or performance for portability

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Yeah form is a massively significant decision, since a laptop is a mobile platform, even its aesthetics can be important if it has to fit into somebodies lifestyle

 

As long as somebody understands the sacrifices they are making, and are happy to make them, then fair enough, ie sacrifice portability for performance, or performance for portability

Form should still follow function... even if as I said, that function is to be a small and portable machine. But it goes both ways; forcing more power into a body incapable of using it is a problem, and the song I keep singing that you're quite sick of by now. But it's the same reason I have respect for say... the Alienware 13, rather than the Aorus X7.

 

But yes, if someone truly knows what they are getting into and is willing to accept that, then let them. I just don't want to hear them complaining about it after the fact, which is something MANY people tend to do.

I have finally moved to a desktop. Also my guides are outdated as hell.

 

THE INFORMATION GUIDES: SLI INFORMATION || vRAM INFORMATION || MOBILE i7 CPU INFORMATION || Maybe more someday

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This whole time, I've been saying larger and heavier is preferred.  The main reason I'm going with asus and only asus is the fact that the charging port is on the side; the only other large laptop with good cooling would be alienware.

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This whole time, I've been saying larger and heavier is preferred.  The main reason I'm going with asus and only asus is the fact that the charging port is on the side; the only other large laptop with good cooling would be alienware.

Alienwares are not very good this generation. If you refuse to go with a Clevo rebrander and are going single GPU, get a GT72 from MSI.

If you cannot afford that, then get the ASUS.

Avoid the Alienwares if performance is your thing. The last good gen for them is the AW17 R1/AW18 (and those were downgrades from the M17x R4/R5 and M18x R2 in terms of full functionality). And you can't use the old ones moving forward anyway, because windows 10 and 353.62 are burning out the screens https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/862417/geforce-drivers/windows-10-official-353-62-drivers-are-killing-samsung-and-lg-notebook-lcd-display-panels/

 

So yeah, please ignore the entire existence of Alienware laptops as far as performance goes, unless you're picking up the AW13 for midrange purposes.

I have finally moved to a desktop. Also my guides are outdated as hell.

 

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