Microsoft wants $1.49 a month to remove the ads it shows inside Solitaire on Windows 10

[AlexGoesHigh]

I like how "let's be thankful they didn't fuck us over even more" is an actual argument people use to defend this kind of bullshit...

Why make something worse to begin with? When you release something new it should be better or at the very least equally as good.

 

 

 

It's like Microsoft are trying out how much bullshit people will tolerate before getting fed up. Apparently people have a very high tolerance of bullshit.

For me, I've had enough. I won't be upgrading to Windows 10 and I won't recommend it either. I was on the fence several weeks ago and since then Microsoft has just been trying to push me onto the Windows 7 side and they finally succeeded.

It's a shame because I really liked a lot of stuff in Windows 10.

people doesn't have very high tolerance to bullshit, you have zero tolerance for BS that doesn't even affect you, i'm not saying that is bad, at some point everything must be looked through cynicism to not get fucked over a potentially bad situation, but you NEVER put down the cynicism hat, outside of you complaints about Windows update, your scrapping the bottom of a barrel to find the most insignificant piece of dirt about this, who the fuck gives a shit about MS wanting a dollar and a half to kill adds on a game that is sole purpose is to kill time, for that's the only reason i play these card games, another thing is that half of the shit you have complained can be turned off, lock screen ads about store apps, there's a toggle, sending your encrypted wifi password to mail contacts, there's a toggle, not providing an ISO to skip the upgrade progress and not doing it afterward, yes that is a valid complaint, but they aren't locking you out of reinstalling windows again afterwards, if i can save hundreds of dollars having to install windows 10 twice, i don't mind it, that's money that i can put towards other upgrades like a SSD

 

what you are asking is for MS to give you your own version of windows on a silver plate in your table, sorry that a company that has to make profit has to cater to the world in general that a single person instead

[Sharkyx1]

http://www.businessinsider.com/solitaire-windows-10-pay-to-remove-ads-2015-7

Wasn't this game free on windows 7?

What happened to the iconic pinball game from the XP days?

Will the card bouncing ending be DLC?

Pin ball didn't have comments in its code and it didn't work in 64 bit so it had to be removed

It was actually a seira online game that MS bought the rights to

You're a little late to be complaining about it, it's like asking why Microsoft office costs money now

[LAwLz]

what you are asking is for MS to give you your own version of windows on a silver plate in your table, sorry that a company that has to make profit has to cater to the world in general that a single person instead

See:

The only thing I want is for Microsoft to release an OS that is better or the same as Windows 7 in every single way, with 0 drawbacks. I don't think that's an unreasonable thing to ask for. To not make your product worse.

 

I am not saying they should cater to me specifically. I am saying they should make the product as good as possible for the consumers. Putting ads in your OS is not beneficial to consumers. It's detrimental to the user experience and it is therefore bad. If you can show me a poll that says more than 50% of people think seeing ads makes the user experience better than I will happy say that I was wrong and applaud Microsoft. I doubt you will be able to do that though so therefore this is a step backwards. I don't understand why people accept and even defend things which are clearly worse than what we had before.

[ErickS89]

Yea....NO!!

[GoodBytes]

I am not saying they should cater to me specifically. I am saying they should make the product as good as possible for the consumers. Putting ads in your OS is not beneficial to consumers. It's detrimental to the user experience and it is therefore bad. If you can show me a poll that says more than 50% of people think seeing ads makes the user experience better than I will happy say that I was wrong and applaud Microsoft. I doubt you will be able to do that though so therefore this is a step backwards. I don't understand why people accept and even defend things which are clearly worse than what we had before.

As a developer, I see Windows 10 being this massive showcase of their new Universal App framework: Windows Apps.

The mass evolution of Modern UI which was super limited.

Theres is Office Mobile set of software showing that you can do large scale software, You have Edge that shows that you can make a super powerful web browser competing with the big boys, meaning if you have a project idea that is system intensive, it can be a viable option to make it under. App the apps built-in shows different apps, and a suggested GUI, and how they scale to Windows 10 Mobile perfectly fine. Mail and Calendar shows hat you can do something pretty decent for new comers to it. Solitaire app shows ads with in-app purchase module and how you can have an automated system where you can remove adds, and have both models (pay or ads) in your program that you are developing.

So maybe that is why I don't particularly mind. Would I like it without ads at all, on all apps. YES! Of course. But let's be honest here: People are not happy with XP/Vista pricing. So Microsoft lowered it with Windows 7. Big time lower. People still not happy, finding ~100$ too pricey, despite having no problem purchasing software fraction in complexity for triple or more in price, and even more smaller scale, full of bugs and issues, no support, near the same price: Most recent AAA games. So ads started to appear in Windows 8. Still too expensive people say, (and yes, I see feedback about this). Now, Windows 10 is essentially free for mass majority of people. And now we have more ads, push on the store app, and in-app purchases. Soo many people here seek for 10-20$ keys of windows 7/8 on the web, and still having problem deciding if it worth the investment.

What do you want LAwLz? Sorry but engineers cost money. Good engineers costs even more money. Nothing is truly free in life. And if it is, it has MAJOR drawbacks. People need food on the table. If you are too greedy, then that is not my problem, this is life.

Expect more ads, more in-app purchases, more included games in the OS when Windows will be truly free.

[dalekphalm]

I read that there is some in the start menu, adverts for applications on the windows store, no idea if that's true or not. 

There is a featured Apps app, which can be removed with literally two clicks (Either just removed from the start menu, or uninstalled completely - either only takes two clicks). Otherwise, no, there are no ads in the Start Menu.

 

There can be ads on the lock screen, if you use the featured images thing - which is 100% optional, and can be completely disabled.

 

Personally, I have not seen any ads at all.

 

Also, I have no problem with Microsoft releasing a free game with Ads, then asking for money for an Ad Free version. Would you all prefer no free version at all?

 

Besides, that fee also gives you perks (Not that I care about those perks, but I don't give a shit about the game at all - far better versions are available online if you really want to play Solitaire).

 

Honestly, people are making this an issue when it's not.

 

Not True. I have Windows 10 and the closest thing to that is app recommendations on the default start page of Edge. The app recommendations are actually relevant to the apps that I have gotten from the store, not who is paying money to have their app there.

Yep.

[burnttoastnice]

Now it sounds like W10 is a phone.

 

It technically is...

 

[burnttoastnice]

Is this what Microsoft meant by focusing more on PC gamers?

 

[Kamina]

It technically is...

 

I hope Stardock can fix it like they did with w8.

[ThreePinkApples]

Sorry but if I pay for a product then I expect it not to shove ads down my throat. Main reason why I don't have cable or Hulu. 

 

Yes, I get that W10 will be free for the first year for legitimate copies, but I will be buying my own physical copy anyway for clean installs.

 

But you didn't really pay for the solitair app. It's a free app on the store that Microsoft happens to include in the installation. You pay for the OS, not that little app. 

[ThreePinkApples]

See:

 

I am not saying they should cater to me specifically. I am saying they should make the product as good as possible for the consumers. Putting ads in your OS is not beneficial to consumers. It's detrimental to the user experience and it is therefore bad. If you can show me a poll that says more than 50% of people think seeing ads makes the user experience better than I will happy say that I was wrong and applaud Microsoft. I doubt you will be able to do that though so therefore this is a step backwards. I don't understand why people accept and even defend things which are clearly worse than what we had before.

 

Have you even seen these app that are mentioned?

They are the least annoying adds I have ever seen, ever. They either blend in so that you don't notice that it is an add, or they are put in a place in the app were it does not take up any important space. In the Solitaire app the add is at the bottom of the main menu/screen. Most people would rarely scroll down there, and since it comes after all menu items, it isn't in the way. It is just there chillin' out of your way. 

 

Don't judge before you have seen it yourself http://imgur.com/ShjIPbk 

 

The add in the start menu can be turned off in settings. And solitaire isn't part of Windows 10, it's an app they just have chosen  to automatically include, by popular demand. You are free to remove it. And you can also get other solitaire apps from the store that is not made by MS (but they probably have more adds). Don't blame the OS for an included app, that is just being stupid and makes it look like you are just looking for the tiniest excuse to unhappy with Win 10. 

[zacRupnow]

http://www.businessinsider.com/solitaire-windows-10-pay-to-remove-ads-2015-7

 

 

Windows 10 comes bundled with the Microsoft Solitaire Collection, gathering a bunch of variations on the eternally popular card game. But included withing the game are ads for other products and services — and if you want to remove the ads, Microsoft is charging $1.49 a month (or the bulk discount of $9.99 a year).

 

Canceling my Windows 10 upgrade.

 

For your $1.49 a month, you get a score boost in TriPeaks and Pyramid, and the chance to win a bunch of extra "coins," the in-game currency you win by completing challenges. You don't need it to play Solitaire, and the game itself plays more or less as it has since Windows 3.1 in the early nineties. But if you don't want to pay, get used to those ads

 

Well I had hope for Windows 10. But pre-installing apps that aren't useful tools, especially with ads, is unacceptable. If all the bloatware, crapware, and adware can't be uninstalled then I may consider OSX for my non-gaming purposes, I have two old iMac units, 2010 and I think 2003, I can use to make my system dual boot with Hackintosh. Though I was hoping to get Windows 10 Pro.

[Str_Mape]

Couldn't you just... hide and not open the apps?

[Syntaxvgm]

What are they? Laptop makers? Is this their "wild tangent games"? 

....

wait...

 

the surface....

...it's kind of  a laptop 

 

 

it all makes sense 

[Wauthar]

Alright, who here still plays Solitaire on Windows?

Not many people, I suppose. If you don't want to be disturbed by ads that are in this 'app', don't go to it?

[jcbiddulph]

oh no, the operating system i got for free has adverts in one of the games i won't ever play, now i don't want it.....

[Picky Peep]

Can't I just uninstall it?

I don't play Solitare anyway.

[VioDuskar]

uninstall, problem solved.

[You_are_a_cunt]

Stupidest reason to dismiss an OS I've ever heard.

[mr moose]

Repost.

 

http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/417410-microsoft-wants-149-a-month-to-remove-the-ads-it-shows-inside-solitaire-on-windows-10/

 

 

Also who didn't expect this on an OS they are giving away away at the moment.

[1Scotty1]

oh no, the operating system i got for free has adverts in one of the games i won't ever play, now i don't want it.....

^^Pretty much this

[Grrizz]

The W8 version also had ads... at least there's the option to remove them if they bug you that much now and there's always the option to play a different version of solitaire, its not like MS have a copyright on it (or you could just ignore them and play the game)

[zacRupnow]

If it has Adware in its pre-installed game it has it elsewhere and it's not yet known if pre-installed stuff can be uninstalled. 

[LAwLz]

As a developer, I see Windows 10 being this massive showcase of their new Universal App framework: Windows Apps.

The mass evolution of Modern UI which was super limited.

Theres is Office Mobile set of software showing that you can do large scale software, You have Edge that shows that you can make a super powerful web browser competing with the big boys, meaning if you have a project idea that is system intensive, it can be a viable option to make it under. App the apps built-in shows different apps, and a suggested GUI, and how they scale to Windows 10 Mobile perfectly fine. Mail and Calendar shows hat you can do something pretty decent for new comers to it. Solitaire app shows ads with in-app purchase module and how you can have an automated system where you can remove adds, and have both models (pay or ads) in your program that you are developing.

Yep they are making a good job showcasing what developers can do in it. But shouldn't the TP have been the showcase and then the RTM be an actual OS that people want to use?

 

 

 

So maybe that is why I don't particularly mind. Would I like it without ads at all, on all apps. YES! Of course. But let's be honest here: People are not happy with XP/Vista pricing. So Microsoft lowered it with Windows 7. Big time lower. People still not happy, finding ~100$ too pricey, despite having no problem purchasing software fraction in complexity for triple or more in price, and even more smaller scale, full of bugs and issues, no support, near the same price: Most recent AAA games. So ads started to appear in Windows 8. Still too expensive people say, (and yes, I see feedback about this). Now, Windows 10 is essentially free for mass majority of people. And now we have more ads, push on the store app, and in-app purchases. Soo many people here seek for 10-20$ keys of windows 7/8 on the web, and still having problem deciding if it worth the investment.

 

What do you want LAwLz? Sorry but engineers cost money. Good engineers costs even more money. Nothing is truly free in life. And if it is, it has MAJOR drawbacks. People need food on the table. If you are too greedy, then that is not my problem, this is life.

Expect more ads, more in-app purchases, more included games in the OS when Windows will be truly free.

You make it sound like Windows 10 is free or cheaper than Windows 7 and 8 but it's not. It's not free if you are building a new computer. It's not free if you have Vista or an earlier version of Windows (which as you probably know is like 1 in 3 users). It's only free for a limited amount of time. And if you buy certain products such as a laptop then you don't have a choice but to pay for it because the OEM has paid the price for Windows and passes that cost along to the customer.

Windows 10 is by no means free. Using "you're getting it for free" as an argument as to why some things in Windows 10 are acceptable shows a lack of seeing things long term and the ability to put yourself in other peoples' shoes.

It reminds me a bit about Vessel and I think @MG2R put it well when he said:

I honestly don't give two cares about what they're advertising... If I'm paying for a service, there shouldn't be ads on it; period.

 

 

Not even (stock) Android has ads in it! There is something to be said for a paid OS having more ads and crap in it than a free one. And the free one is from Google! The king of ads.

 

 

 

Don't blame the OS for an included app, that is just being stupid and makes it look like you are just looking for the tiniest excuse to unhappy with Win 10. 

What? Of course I will blame the OS for the programs it comes with. I would be equally unhappy if Google forcefully pushed out for example Candy Crush Saga to all Android devices. I am not looking for excuses to be unhappy with Windows 10. I am just reading the news threads and then giving my opinion on the news, and most of the new stories have been about bad things Microsoft has changed or added to Windows 10. If I was looking for things then you would have seen me make a bunch of threads, not just commenting on already existing ones.

[Trik'Stari]

Oh look, yet more reasons that people should NOT upgrade to Windows 10

 

 

Make it flop.