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i am wanting to build my own gaming tower, but i dont have a ton of money. I am also not the most knowledgeable when it comes to CPUs, so i was wondering what would be a good upgrade from the Pentium G3258 without spending an extra 250+ dollars, while keeping most everything from the value PC guide that was posted back in December.

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Core i5 4460

Core i3 4160

 

The best option for the Z97 board in that build guide would be a 4690k or a used 4670k if condition and price are good.

4690K // 212 EVO // Z97-PRO // Vengeance 16GB // GTX 770 GTX 970 // MX100 128GB // Toshiba 1TB // Air 540 // HX650

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i am wanting to build my own gaming tower, but i dont have a ton of money. I am also not the most knowledgeable when it comes to CPUs, so i was wondering what would be a good upgrade from the Pentium G3258 without spending an extra 250+ dollars, while keeping most everything from the value PC guide that was posted back in December.

 

That Ultimate Value OC Build is a retarded build and no one should follow it. An expensive Z97 board and an expensive Intel SSD are count to potato stupid on the kind of budget calling for a G3258 and an R7 260x. The GPU and CPU are the most important parts of your build and aren't the places to skimp. Just post your budget, whether you need a monitor, what games you play, and people will give you much better suggestions than that video for how to make a gaming PC that's efficient with performance per dollar spent.

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If you can afford something like this, this is a really good value gaming PC:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($166.95 @ SuperBiiz)

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-B85M-GAMING 3 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($53.84 @ Newegg)

Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($49.99 @ Newegg)

Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($50.89 @ OutletPC)

Video Card: PowerColor Radeon R9 280X 3GB TurboDuo Video Card ($192.98 @ Newegg)

Case: Corsair SPEC-01 RED ATX Mid Tower Case ($47.99 @ Micro Center)

Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA GS 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($54.99 @ Newegg)

Total: $617.63

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-07-05 21:59 EDT-0400

| CPU: Core i7-8700K @ 4.89ghz - 1.21v  |  Motherboard: Asus ROG STRIX Z370-E GAMING  |  CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i V2 |
| GPU: MSI RTX 3080Ti Ventus 3X OC  |  RAM: 32GB T-Force Delta RGB 3066mhz |
| Displays: Acer Predator XB270HU 1440p Gsync 144hz IPS Gaming monitor | Oculus Quest 2 VR

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If you can afford something like this, this is a really good value gaming PC:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($166.95 @ SuperBiiz)

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-B85M-GAMING 3 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($53.84 @ Newegg)

Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($49.99 @ Newegg)

Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($50.89 @ OutletPC)

Video Card: PowerColor Radeon R9 280X 3GB TurboDuo Video Card ($192.98 @ Newegg)

Case: Corsair SPEC-01 RED ATX Mid Tower Case ($47.99 @ Micro Center)

Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA GS 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($54.99 @ Newegg)

Total: $617.63

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-07-05 21:59 EDT-0400

 

Yeah, that's a great deal, except you gotta make sure you get the revision 1.0 of that board, which is the one newegg has.

 

OP, if they send a revision 2.0 you gotta send it back though, the revision 2.0 of that board throttle like hell even on locked Intel CPUs.

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Yeah, that's a great deal, except you gotta make sure you get the revision 1.0 of that board, which is the one newegg has.

 

OP, if they send a revision 2.0 you gotta send it back though, the revision 2.0 of that board throttle like hell even on locked Intel CPUs.

brian's board was not the gaming 3 i believe and he used the xeon 1231v3 which is more demanding than the i5-4460...if that's what you are refering to?...even the rev 2 will handle the 4460 i believe.

| CPU: Core i7-8700K @ 4.89ghz - 1.21v  |  Motherboard: Asus ROG STRIX Z370-E GAMING  |  CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i V2 |
| GPU: MSI RTX 3080Ti Ventus 3X OC  |  RAM: 32GB T-Force Delta RGB 3066mhz |
| Displays: Acer Predator XB270HU 1440p Gsync 144hz IPS Gaming monitor | Oculus Quest 2 VR

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brian's board was not the gaming 3 i believe and he used the xeon 1231v3 which is more demanding than the i5-4460...if that's what you are refering to?...even the rev 2 will handle the 4460 i believe.

 

Supposedly all Gigabyte B85 boards are potentially junk in revision 2.0 according to one of the stories he discussed in a tech talk. I think he said he won't even recommend them for the G3258 builds much less i5 or Xeon. But revision 1.0 they're great.

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This is all great to know. 

 

That Ultimate Value OC Build is a retarded build and no one should follow it. An expensive Z97 board and an expensive Intel SSD are count to potato stupid on the kind of budget calling for a G3258 and an R7 260x. The GPU and CPU are the most important parts of your build and aren't the places to skimp. Just post your budget, whether you need a monitor, what games you play, and people will give you much better suggestions than that video for how to make a gaming PC that's efficient with performance per dollar spent.

Im looking to stay under $800 if possible, not including peripherals, so if that helps great. As for games, i usually play CS:GO, TF2, Gmod FSX-SE, along with a ton of older games (NFS3, NSM, SC4.) I am also open to keyboard/mouse/montior suggestions.

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This is all great to know. 

 

Im looking to stay under $800 if possible, not including peripherals, so if that helps great. As for games, i usually play CS:GO, TF2, Gmod FSX-SE, along with a ton of older games (NFS3, NSM, SC4.) I am also open to keyboard/mouse/montior suggestions.

 

Sounds like a Pentium G3258 would be a phenomenal CPU for that build. $800 (not counting monitor) is the kind of budget for something to play new games like GTA V or Witcher 3. You should be able to come in way under budget even with a nice SSD thrown in. Something like this would be great for those games:

 

 
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H81M-DS2V Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($50.98 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Crucial MX100 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($99.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 750 Ti 2GB Superclocked Video Card  ($124.99 @ NCIX US) 
Case: Corsair SPEC-01 RED ATX Mid Tower Case  ($47.99 @ Micro Center) 
Monitor: Acer H236HLbid 60Hz 23.0" Monitor  ($130.99 @ Best Buy) 
Total: $664.69
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-07-06 21:29 EDT-0400
 
You can probably find better boards, but I can recommend revision 1.0 of that board since it was able to get my G3258 to 4.4 GHz and it never throttles, not even on the Xeon E3-1231v3 I run on it now (the 1231v3 is similar to an i7-4770). Downsides of the board are
(1) having only 2 DIMMs, hence why I recommended a single 8GB stick in case you want more later
(2) no front panel USB-3.0, only USB-2.0 in front, but it has two USB-3.0 in back
(3) Uses a PCIE-2.0x16 slot, which makes no difference in almost every game. I run a GTX 970 on this board and the performance is excellent
(4) Only four SATA ports, so go with something a little higher end if you plan to run more than four hard drive/SSD/DVDROM.
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Oops, I made a mistake in the last post: I forgot that sometimes those H81 boards need BIOS updates prior to using the G3258. I was originally going to recommend an H97 board here to absolutely make sure you wouldn't have to do a BIOS flash, but a nicer Z97 board is only $10 more so I went with it instead. It has none of the four weaknesses I mentioned above that H81 board.

 


 
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z97M-D3H Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($78.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Storage: Crucial MX100 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($99.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 750 Ti 2GB Superclocked Video Card  ($124.99 @ NCIX US) 
Case: Corsair SPEC-01 RED ATX Mid Tower Case  ($47.99 @ Micro Center) 
Monitor: Acer H236HLbid 60Hz 23.0" Monitor  ($130.99 @ Best Buy) 
Total: $694.70
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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