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Should I stay on Ivy Bridge, or upgrade to Haswell?

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Hi there,

 

Before I continue with my question, here's my current PC build:

 

-XFX FX-777A-ZNF4 Radeon HD 7000 Series; AMD; Radeon HD 7770; 1000 MHz; CrossFire; 2048 x 1536 pixels; 2560 x 1600 pixels (FX-777A-ZNF4)

-Intel Core i3-3220 3300GHz 3MB Cache Socket LGA1155 Desktop CPU

-Corsair CMX8GX3M1A1333C9 XMS3 8GB (1x4GB) DDR3 1333 Mhz CL9 Performance Desktop Memory Module

-MSI LGA1155 u-ATX Motherboard (Intel H61, 2x DDR3, GBE, LAN)

-500 WATT ATX POWER SUPPLY QUIET 20-24 PIN with SATA

-LiteOn IHAS124-04 24x SATA Half Height Internal DVDRW Drive

-Seagate Barracuda 3.5 inch 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB 6GB/S Internal SATA Drive

-Fractal Design Core 1000 Series Micro ATX Case

 

In another topic I made, I made up my mind about upgrading my GPU at Christmas to a Gigabyte GTX 970 G1 Gaming. That being said, I'm sure that my current CPU will bottleneck the GTX 970, so I'm going to save up now to buy a new CPU before Christmas. I was firstly thinking about upgrading my current processor to an i5 3570 (non 'K' version, because my MOBO doesn't allow OC of the CPU), or an i7 3770 (non 'K'). I wasn't sure which one to get, since the 3770 is £60 more expensive than the 3570 (in the UK). Note that both, the 3570 and the 3770 are 3rd generation Intel processors (code name: Ivy Bridge).

 

But then I was told that I should upgrade my current motherboard so that I could have a Haswell processor, and that it would be cheaper to get too. So I started digging around the web, and found the i5 4690 and the i7 4790 (both non 'K'). Links to both:

 

i5 4690: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Intel-3-50GHz-Graphics-Technology-Socket/dp/B00K5J2252/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1436034896&sr=8-1&keywords=4690

i7 4790: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Intel-Professional-Processor-Threading-Technology/dp/B00J56YSLM/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1436034914&sr=8-2&keywords=4790

 

I also found out that gaming-wise, both of these processors are identical, so spending another £70 (in the UK) for the i7 4790, when all you use your PC for is gaming, would be extremely idiotic. The i7 4790 would only be superior to the 4690, when rendering videos, editing videos, and streaming (none of which I do much of). So I narrowed my search down to the 4690, but then I would need a new motherboard. This is what my question is. What motherboard should I get which will be not too expensive, and deliver good quality? (I'm looking to ideally spend no more than £40-£50 max.).

 

But wait... After all of this, I found this cheeky guy on Amazon: http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00KPRWB9G?colid=2BRSRZDQYDHJG&coliid=IIDNBTYW5AW09&ref_=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl

 

That's the i5 4690k for only £10 more than the 4690 (non 'K'). So that's a no-brainer for me. I don't know why, but the £300+ 4690k was reduced down to £170. So, which processor would you buy in this situation? Should I stay with my current MOBO, and simply buy the i5 3570, or should I upgrade my MOBO (to a cheap Haswell MOBO), and get the i5 4690, or should I upgrade my MOBO to a cheap Haswell MOBO (with overclocking for the CPU) and get the i5 4690k?

 

Note: I was also told that I should also upgrade my PSU to a good, reliable one, but I think I'm going to refrain from that for now. Should I buy a new PSU too? I don't exactly have the budget for it right now though...

 

Sorry for the really long topic, but I wanted to give as much detail as possible. Thanks in advance to anyone who helps,

 

Cheers!

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Hi there,

 

Before I continue with my question, here's my current PC build:

 

 

Cheers!

 

Please DO NOT GO WITH THAT PSU

It'll destroy everything.

i7 8086k @ 5.3Ghz / 32GB DDR4 Trident Z RGB @ 3733Mhz / Aorus GTX 1080 11Gbps / PG348Q

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a 4690k was never 300 pound you can get a i7 4790k or even a 5820k for that and you should wait for skylake

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Oh and btw GET RID OF THAT POWER SUPPLY NOW !

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AND I MEAN NOW.

 

BTW, you won't see any difference between Ivy Bridge and Haswell.

Why is that? I'm only curious as to what the dangers might be, keeping this PSU.

 

Cheers!

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That PSU will pretty much fry your pc in the first minutes xD. Theres 6 categories. -Excellent -good -decent - bad -horrible -your psu

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Please DO NOT GO WITH THAT PSU

It'll destroy everything.

What would happen if I stayed with this one?

 

Cheers!

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Why is that? I'm only curious as to what the dangers might be, keeping this PSU.

 

Cheers!

It isn't from a reputable company, get one from one Corsair, EVGA, SeaSonic, etc.

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a 4690k was never 300 pound you can get a i7 4790k or even a 5820k for that and you should wait for skylake

What are the advantages of Skylake over Haswell and Ivy Bridge? Also, when does it come out? Also, it said on the Amazon link I sent that the 4690k dropped from £301 to £178. The difference in gaming between the 4690 and 4790 is not notable, and I would be paying far more (almost £100) just for the 4790, when I don't stream or render videos.

 

Cheers!

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Why is that? I'm only curious as to what the dangers might be, keeping this PSU.

 

Cheers!

Dangers of running on a cheap/crappy PSU: 

 

1. Very high chance of it dying.

2. When it does inevitably die, there's a good chance it can kill any or all parts in your system.

 

That's literally enough to make anyone squirm. Even a "low end" psu from Corsair or EVGA is far far far better.

 

EDIT: you can get this 430W CX430 for 35 pounds http://www.amazon.co.uk/Corsair-Builder-Bronze-Power-Supply/dp/B009RMP14M/ref=sr_1_5?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1436036701&sr=1-5&keywords=psu or this 500W 500B from EVGA for 40 pounds http://www.amazon.co.uk/EVGA-500B-BRONZE-Power-Supply/dp/B00DZ6R9GE/ref=sr_1_8?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1436036701&sr=1-8&keywords=psu. Both are inexpensive and of so worth it considering your situation.

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you should definitely wait for skylake

What are the features of Skylake? And when does it come out? What are the improvements and why would it be better than Ivy Bridge and Haswell?

 

Cheers!

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What would happen if I stayed with this one?

 

Cheers!

A bad PSU runs the risk of being a safety hazard and/or damaging your components in your computer.

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What are the features of Skylake? And when does it come out? What are the improvements and why would it be better than Ivy Bridge and Haswell?

 

Cheers!

if you wait then kaby lake coming next year will be like haswell refresh so same socket and chipset besides smaller nanometer processer and thats about it besides maybe higher ocing potential...

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Good PSU to replace it with.

 

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Power Supply: SeaSonic 620W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  (£70.01 @ Ebuyer)

Total: £70.01

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

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That PSU is a bit on the more expensive side, and I don't exactly have the budget to buy that if I want to upgrade my CPU and MOBO (and maybe RAM) too. How is this one: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Antec-NEO-ECO-520C-Supply/dp/B00DTP0BNO/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1435964471&sr=8-3&keywords=neo+eco

 

Cheers!

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Dangers of running on a cheap/crappy PSU: 

 

1. Very high chance of it dying.

2. When it does inevitably die, there's a good chance it can kill any or all parts in your system.

 

That's literally enough to make anyone squirm. Even a "low end" psu from Corsair or EVGA is far far far better.

 

EDIT: you can get this 430W CX430 for 35 pounds http://www.amazon.co.uk/Corsair-Builder-Bronze-Power-Supply/dp/B009RMP14M/ref=sr_1_5?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1436036701&sr=1-5&keywords=psu or this 500W 500B from EVGA for 40 pounds http://www.amazon.co.uk/EVGA-500B-BRONZE-Power-Supply/dp/B00DZ6R9GE/ref=sr_1_8?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1436036701&sr=1-8&keywords=psu. Both are inexpensive and of so worth it considering your situation.

Is this one good: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Antec-NEO-ECO-520C-Supply/dp/B00DTP0BNO/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1435964471&sr=8-3&keywords=neo+eco

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Ii should be fine, I know they used to be good and I'm pretty sure they still are.

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