Mobo A Waste? High End AM3+ vs AM4 Next Year With New Cpu

[MahtXL]

My entire goal this summer was to get a high end mobo for my current chip, but since i plan to upgrade to zen next year anyways, and thats going to run off am4. Is it even worth it to grab a high end am3+ mobo now?  Would only cost me around 230 bucks once taxes are done. There are other things id like from the mobo as well other than just a better chipset. i need another pci slot to add a phys x card which i have sitting here, as well as bumping my current main gpu slot from pci-e 2.0 to 3.0  better sata connections currently stuck on 3gb/s. And the board im looking at supports m-sata, of which id like to drop an m-sata ssd into for os. While having a normal ssd for games.  Do those upgrades possibly outweigh a cpu bump? Its really got me thinking. And besides that im not sure if id be bumping my gpu up at all (760) and even if i do it would be to a 390x from MSI, which my current chip could handle fine anyways. 

TLDR Version

New proper high end mobo now.
Forget about it and grab new cpu next year when they come out.


My current board is an Asus M5A78L-M USB3 for those curious. Not a horrible board, but it lags behind in quite a few features.

[austrianguy69]

I would wait for Zen/Skylake/Broadwell as long as your system runs properly

[MahtXL]

I would wait for Zen/Skylake/Broadwell as long as your system runs properly

My framerates in games are as expected so its not holding me back. Its just not as feature rich as id like and those chips are an entire year away.

[ZetZet]

if you are changing mobo then change the cpu too 

[iludez]

My framerates in games are as expected so its not holding me back. Its just not as feature rich as id like and those chips are an entire year away.

If your going to spend $230 on a motherboard sell your 8350 and buy an i5 

[MahtXL]

if you are changing mobo then change the cpu too 

im going from am3+ to am3+ i already have the exact chip id want to use.

[MahtXL]

If your going to spend $230 on a motherboard sell your 8350 and buy an i5 

Yes let me sell my high end cpu for a low end cpu. Please dont come here with your fanboy crap.

[minibois]

no point in upgrading your motherboard for the CPU you have now.

[ZetZet]

Yes let me sell my high end cpu for a low end cpu. Please dont come here with your fanboy crap.

8350 was high end in 2012. 

[rjfaber91]

Wait for Zen. It's incredibly unlikely that AM4 CPUs will work on AM3+ boards, and if you want PCIe 3.0, as you say, then you'll have to wait anyway, because there is no support for that under AM3+.

[-iSynthesis]

My entire goal this summer was to get a high end mobo for my current chip, but since i plan to upgrade to zen next year anyways, and thats going to run off am4. Is it even worth it to grab a high end am3+ mobo now?  Would only cost me around 230 bucks once taxes are done. There are other things id like from the mobo as well other than just a better chipset. i need another pci slot to add a phys x card which i have sitting here, as well as bumping my current main gpu slot from pci-e 2.0 to 3.0  better sata connections currently stuck on 3gb/s. And the board im looking at supports m-sata, of which id like to drop an m-sata ssd into for os. While having a normal ssd for games.  Do those upgrades possibly outweigh a cpu bump? Its really got me thinking. And besides that im not sure if id be bumping my gpu up at all (760) and even if i do it would be to a 390x from MSI, which my current chip could handle fine anyways. 

TLDR Version

New proper high end mobo now.

Forget about it and grab new cpu next year when they come out.

My current board is an Asus M5A78L-M USB3 for those curious. Not a horrible board, but it lags behind in quite a few features.

No. Its pointless investing 230$ into an am3+ Motherboard, sorry. For the money rather sell your fx and get an i5 + z97 motherboard, it'll do a lot better. Zen most defnetly won't be usable on am3+. 

[austrianguy69]

8350 was high end in 2012. 

the i5 4460 performs better than an fx 9590 in most games

[austrianguy69]

No. Its pointless investing 230$ into an am3+ Motherboard, sorry. For the money rather sell your fx and get an i5 + z97 motherboard, it'll do a lot better. Zen most defnetly won't be usable on am3+. 

yea, but it would be the best to stick with the current configuration

[harrynowl]

Yes let me sell my high end cpu for a low end cpu. Please dont come here with your fanboy crap.

It was good advice. These FX CPUs are getting price cuts left and right for a reason. They are just not very good.

 

You should not dump $230 in the AM3+ platform anyway, even the latest AM3+ boards are based on a 2011 chipset. So native USB3.0, no PCIe 3.0 which you wanted (admittedly it doesn't make a difference). And the SATA 6GB/s controllers aren't great either due to their age.

 

I prefer option #2, literally no point in buying any AM3+ board. If you're happy with the 8350 stay happy, but don't buy anything more for it.

[Schoolofmonkey]

Yes let me sell my high end cpu for a low end cpu. Please dont come here with your fanboy crap.

 

I was kind of taken back by this response, it's got nothing to do with fanboy it's a simple fact, the I5 is faster than the FX, but not by much.

 

http://www.overclock.net/t/1544216/home-review-fx-8350-4-8-vs-i5-4690k-4-5-single-gpu-crossfire

 

"This review follows on from numerous discussions about what is the best option, FX 8320/50 or I5 4670/90k, seeking to offer a reliable and homely analysis, far from any economic pressure, which as we know, often is exerted on the best known "reviewrs"."

[Prysin]

I would wait for Zen/Skylake/Broadwell as long as your system runs properly

Zen and Skylake. Broadwell is overpriced because of Iris Pro.

 

It is completely worthless. I5 5675c is what... i7 price or so.... with lower then 4690k CPU performance....

 

So Skylake or ZEN. These are the best options

[Prysin]

the i5 4460 performs better than an fx 9590 in most games

some games, they arent that far apart really. BUT

 

outside of games, i5 wins hands down, except rendering.

 

Anyway, 9590k + Sabertooth AM3+ mobo/Maximus Formulae is 100 ish USD more expensive then locked i5 + mobo

[GeathX]

My framerates in games are as expected so its not holding me back. Its just not as feature rich as id like and those chips are an entire year away.

Which features are you really wanting? Could you get a PCIe card or something to add the fuctions?

[Nena Trinity]

My entire goal this summer was to get a high end mobo for my current chip, but since i plan to upgrade to zen next year anyways, and thats going to run off am4. Is it even worth it to grab a high end am3+ mobo now?  Would only cost me around 230 bucks once taxes are done. There are other things id like from the mobo as well other than just a better chipset. i need another pci slot to add a phys x card which i have sitting here, as well as bumping my current main gpu slot from pci-e 2.0 to 3.0  better sata connections currently stuck on 3gb/s. And the board im looking at supports m-sata, of which id like to drop an m-sata ssd into for os. While having a normal ssd for games.  Do those upgrades possibly outweigh a cpu bump? Its really got me thinking. And besides that im not sure if id be bumping my gpu up at all (760) and even if i do it would be to a 390x from MSI, which my current chip could handle fine anyways. 

TLDR Version

New proper high end mobo now.

Forget about it and grab new cpu next year when they come out.

My current board is an Asus M5A78L-M USB3 for those curious. Not a horrible board, but it lags behind in quite a few features.

Stick with your FX you may get a boost from DX12!

Well AMD claims so but I would not say its a magical super boost!

[austrianguy69]

Zen and Skylake. Broadwell is overpriced because of Iris Pro.

 

It is completely worthless. I5 5675c is what... i7 price or so.... with lower then 4690k CPU performance....

 

So Skylake or ZEN. These are the best options

how do you even wanna know?

[austrianguy69]

Stick with your FX you may get a boost from DX12!

Well AMD claims so but I would not say its a magical super boost!

DX12 is somewhere between DX11 and Mantle, I think DX11 supports 4 threads, DX12 supports 6 threads and Mantle supports 8 threads

[Nena Trinity]

DX12 is somewhere between DX11 and Mantle, I think DX11 supports 4 threads, DX12 supports 6 threads and Mantle supports 8 threads

DX11 supports 8 if the devs are not morons. And DX12 is more likely to support 8 even if the devs are morons...

[Nena Trinity]

My entire goal this summer was to get a high end mobo for my current chip, but since i plan to upgrade to zen next year anyways, and thats going to run off am4. Is it even worth it to grab a high end am3+ mobo now?  Would only cost me around 230 bucks once taxes are done. There are other things id like from the mobo as well other than just a better chipset. i need another pci slot to add a phys x card which i have sitting here, as well as bumping my current main gpu slot from pci-e 2.0 to 3.0  better sata connections currently stuck on 3gb/s. And the board im looking at supports m-sata, of which id like to drop an m-sata ssd into for os. While having a normal ssd for games.  Do those upgrades possibly outweigh a cpu bump? Its really got me thinking. And besides that im not sure if id be bumping my gpu up at all (760) and even if i do it would be to a 390x from MSI, which my current chip could handle fine anyways. 

TLDR Version

New proper high end mobo now.

Forget about it and grab new cpu next year when they come out.

My current board is an Asus M5A78L-M USB3 for those curious. Not a horrible board, but it lags behind in quite a few features.

Also I was sure AMD was only gonna make FM3 for Zen...

[austrianguy69]

Also I was sure AMD was only gonna make FM3 for Zen...

If they call it FM3 or AM4 is completely irrelevant

[Nena Trinity]

If they call it FM3 or AM4 is completely irrelevant

So Zen-socket then?