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Good computer?

 

 

Motherboard: 

GIGABYTE GA Z97x-SLI Processor:  Intel® CoreT i5 4590 3.3GHz/3.7GHz Turbo 6MB L3 Cache HD 4600 Processor Cooling:  MAINGEAR EPIC 120 Supercooler MAINGEAR Redline Overclocking Service:  Intel® Turbo Boost Advanced Automatic Overclocking Memory:  16GB Corsair® VengeanceT DDR3-1600 1.5V (2x8GB) Graphics Card:  NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970 4GB with G-Sync Power Supply:  750W EVGA® SuperNOVA 80 Plus Certified PSU - GTX Titan X SLI Ready Operating System Drive:  [HDD] 1TB Seagate® BarracudaT 7200rpm 64MB Cache SATA 6G Optical Drive One:  24X Dual Layer DVD RW Drive Audio:  Realtek® ALC1150 - 7.1 Channel High Definition Surround Sound Supporting S/DIF Optical Out Ethernet Adapter:  On-board Gigabit Ethernet Operating System:  Microsoft Windows 8.1 64-bit [Free Upgrade to Windows 10]  Security Software:  Free 1 Year Subscription! McAfee AntiVirus Plus

 

So, I saw a video by MKBHD on a computer he got from Maingear and I checked their website... I've been looking to build my own computer but I have no prior knowledge of building one or what to buy, what fits together etc etc. So I thought a solution like this one would be perfect for me.

 

I talked to a guy on mangers website and told him my budget was around 1400 USD and I wanted a computer that could run todays games at a good quality. He put the configurations above together for me and said that that system would run any game at 1080p. It's a bit over my budget at 1600 USD but I think that's acceptable.

 

My question is this, do any of you disagree with the maingear employee? Is there anything you would change in the lineup that would be better for the same price? Any opinions are helpful! Thank you :)

 

PS, it's a messy list, sorry 'bout that

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If you want a less messier list, go to http://pcpartpicker.com/ and configure it there. Much easier for all of us (if you want to copy the list to your post, press the bbcode option and copy that and paste it in your post).

Why not go for the i5 4690K? You have a Z97 motherboard. 

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Its good, but you picked a CPU that wont overclock, and that motherboard is a Z97 motherboard and it supports overclocking, I'm not saying that it wont work, it will, but you wont be able to overclock with that CPU

 

I think if you build your own, it would be a lot cheaper, just let me know what exactly is your budget and where are you from?

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You can save up on a few things. You really don't need liquid cooling if you're not going to overclock; just get an air cooler like the Hyper 212 EVO, or you can spend a few more dollars on an overclockable CPU (since you have a motherboard capable to overclock). Cut down the RAM to 8GB if all you're going to do is gaming, and not something more intensive like video rendering. You can also get a 500W power supply instead, but if you're planning on going SLI some time, then keep the 750W.

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RAM: Corsair Vengeance 8GB   | GPU: GTX 1650                | Case: NZXT H440 (Red/Black)  | PSU: EVGA 650W G2            |

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this is so messy, make it a list please also fuck mcAfee its so shit and it keeps prompting you about shit that dosent exist untill you actiually buy it.. its so bad please go with Avast or something similar

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Here.

 

 
Motherboard: MSI Z97-GAMING 5 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($139.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 390X 8GB Video Card  ($429.98 @ SuperBiiz) 
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer  ($18.89 @ OutletPC) 
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 OEM (64-bit)  ($86.98 @ OutletPC) 
Total: $1260.91
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As I said, I don't know much about these things but your main concerns seem to be the CPU. What is overclocking and what does it do? Can I do it, as a noob?

 

My budget is around 1400-1600 USD. I'm from Sweden. The guy said that it wouldn't be very much cheaper if I built it myself, and frankly I don't think I would want to, because it's so easy to get something wrong and destroy all of it...

 

To brokencross: As I said in the post, I don't want to build it myself. If you have any opinions on changes to the system I presented, please share

 

Apparently McAffee is "so shit" so would you recommend something else? I wouldn't want my baby to get infected. Either way that year subscription comes free with the computer so it doesn't really matter to much

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As I said, I don't know much about these things but your main concerns seem to be the CPU. What is overclocking and what does it do? Can I do it, as a noob?

 

My budget is around 1400-1600 USD. I'm from Sweden. The guy said that it wouldn't be very much cheaper if I built it myself, and frankly I don't think I would want to, because it's so easy to get something wrong and destroy all of it...

 

To brokencross: As I said in the post, I don't want to build it myself. If you have any opinions on changes to the system I presented, please share

 

Apparently McAffee is "so shit" so would you recommend something else? I wouldn't want my baby to get infected. Either way that year subscription comes free with the computer so it doesn't really matter to much

- Overclocking is basically saying to your CPU it should run better by increasing the amount of power it can use.

- It can give more fps in games (increasing performance)

- it's reasonable easy nowadays

- Making a PC is very easy, just watch a few tutorials on YouTube and read the manuals. It really is not hard.

- I mostly agree with @brokencross' system, but can you add an SSD to the system still? Samsung 850 EVO perhaps?

 

I would change it to this probably:

 

 
CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  (€239.51 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  (€34.60 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Motherboard: MSI Z97-GAMING 5 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  (€140.00) 
Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury Black 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory  (€53.89 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury Black 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory  (€53.89 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (€54.96 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 4GB SSC ACX 2.0 Video Card  (€370.99 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  (€93.50 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer  (€20.00) 
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 OEM (64-bit)  (€90.00) 
Total: €1370.34
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-07-02 20:47 CEST+0200

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mini eLiXiVy: my open source 65% mechanical PCB, a build log, PCB anatomy and discussing open source licenses: https://linustechtips.com/topic/1366493-elixivy-a-65-mechanical-keyboard-build-log-pcb-anatomy-and-how-i-open-sourced-this-project/

 

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Motherboard: GIGABYTE GA Z97x-SLI

Processor:  Intel® CoreT i5 4590 3.3GHz/3.7GHz Turbo 6MB L3 Cache HD 4600 Processor

Cooling:  MAINGEAR EPIC 120 Supercooler MAINGEAR Redline

Overclocking Service:  Intel® Turbo Boost Advanced Automatic Overclocking

Memory:  16GB Corsair® VengeanceT DDR3-1600 1.5V (2x8GB)

Graphics Card:  NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970 4GB with G-Sync

Power Supply:  750W EVGA® SuperNOVA 80 Plus Certified PSU - GTX Titan X SLI Ready

Operating System Drive:  [HDD] 1TB Seagate® BarracudaT 7200rpm 64MB Cache SATA 6G

Optical Drive One:  24X Dual Layer DVD RW Drive

Audio:  Realtek® ALC1150 - 7.1 Channel High Definition Surround Sound Supporting S/DIF Optical Out

Ethernet Adapter:  On-board Gigabit Ethernet

Operating System:  Microsoft Windows 8.1 64-bit [Free Upgrade to Windows 10] 

Security Software:  Free 1 Year Subscription! McAfee AntiVirus Plus

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My question is this, do any of you disagree with the maingear employee? Is there anything you would change in the lineup that would be better for the same price? Any opinions are helpful! Thank you :)

 

PS, it's a messy list, sorry 'bout that

 

  1. Motherboard: H97 chipset - Asus H97M-E, Asus H97-Plus or H97M-Plus, Gigabyte GA-H97M-D3H or GA-H97-D3H
  2. Processor: i5-4590 with Intel cpu cooler
  3. Overclocking Service: all Haswell processors automatically overclock cores on demand
  4. Memory: G.Skill, Corsair, Kingston, or Crucial 2x4GB DDR3-1600 CL9 or DDR3-1866 CL10
  5. Graphics Card (GPU): GTX 970 or R9 390X - ask about specific models
  6. Power Supply (PSU): 80+ Gold - EVGA 220-GS-0650-V1, SeaSonic SSR-650RM, EVGA 220-G2-0650-Y1, Super Flower SF-650F14MG; 80+ Bronze - Antec HCG-620M, SeaSonic M12II 620 Bronze
  7. System drive: 240GB+ ssd - Samsung 850 EVO, Arc 100, BX-100, etc.
  8. Data drive: 1TB Seagate Barracuda or Western Digital Caviar Blue
  9. Optical drive: not really needed unless you want one
  10. Audio: depends on motherboard, all good quality
  11. Ethernet: gigabit on motherboard
  12. O/S: your choice
  13. Security Software: AVG and Avast have free for home use versions

SSD is a must. While it adds little to gaming, if greatly improves all other activity.

 

Overclocking over and above the automatic on-demand clock increases of Intel cpu can improve cpu performance. There is no need to overclock an i5-4590. But it is fun to do. Add a good cpu cooler like the Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO if you wish to try it. Make sure the cooler will fit in the case and the memory modules will fit under the fan, if the cooler extends over the memory area.

 

Eight GB of memory is quite sufficient for gaming at 1080.

80+ ratings certify electrical efficiency. Not quality.

 

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It seems like you guys really want me to build my own system instead of buying one that's built for me. I think Minibois's suggestion sounds good

 

 

- Overclocking is basically saying to your CPU it should run better by increasing the amount of power it can use.

- It can give more fps in games (increasing performance)

- it's reasonable easy nowadays

- Making a PC is very easy, just watch a few tutorials on YouTube and read the manuals. It really is not hard.

- I mostly agree with @brokencross' system, but can you add an SSD to the system still? Samsung 850 EVO perhaps?

 

I would change it to this probably:

 

 
CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  (€239.51 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  (€34.60 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Motherboard: MSI Z97-GAMING 5 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  (€140.00) 
Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury Black 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory  (€53.89 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury Black 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory  (€53.89 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (€54.96 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 4GB SSC ACX 2.0 Video Card  (€370.99 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  (€93.50 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer  (€20.00) 
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 OEM (64-bit)  (€90.00) 
Total: €1370.34
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-07-02 20:47 CEST+0200

 

 

So it seems like you guys want me to build my own system instead of buying one built for me. I think this one by Minibois sounds pretty good, although a lot of you said I don't need more than 8 gb of RAM to get a good gaming experience, so if I would remove one of them and put those money into something else, what would I invest in instead? Or should I perhaps keep that RAM because the system needs it?

 

Thank you!

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It seems like you guys really want me to build my own system instead of buying one that's built for me. I think Minibois's suggestion sounds good

 

 

So it seems like you guys want me to build my own system instead of buying one built for me. I think this one by Minibois sounds pretty good, although a lot of you said I don't need more than 8 gb of RAM to get a good gaming experience, so if I would remove one of them and put those money into something else, what would I invest in instead? Or should I perhaps keep that RAM because the system needs it?

 

Thank you!

8GB of RAM is fine at the moment too for gaming, you really don't need 16GB for it.

It just makes it a bit more comfortable.

 

And really, I think making a PC is easy.

Otherwise, is there not a PC store where you live at which you configure your own PC and they make it?

I think my PC hits the price for performance real well. 

 

If you were wanting to spend more money, you could really only go for a bigger SSD. But that is not very necessary though. 

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mini eLiXiVy: my open source 65% mechanical PCB, a build log, PCB anatomy and discussing open source licenses: https://linustechtips.com/topic/1366493-elixivy-a-65-mechanical-keyboard-build-log-pcb-anatomy-and-how-i-open-sourced-this-project/

 

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8GB of RAM is fine at the moment too for gaming, you really don't need 16GB for it.

It just makes it a bit more comfortable.

 

And really, I think making a PC is easy.

Otherwise, is there not a PC store where you live at which you configure your own PC and they make it?

I think my PC hits the price for performance real well. 

 

If you were wanting to spend more money, you could really only go for a bigger SSD. But that is not very necessary though. 

 

Okay well, my local computer part store here in Sweden didn't have the RAM type thing you suggested, but they did have something that to me seems very similar.. "HyperX Fury DDR3 1600MHz 8GB Black" Can I just as well use that or?

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Okay well, my local computer part store here in Sweden didn't have the RAM type thing you suggested, but they did have something that to me seems very similar.. "HyperX Fury DDR3 1600MHz 8GB Black" Can I just as well use that or?

Yeah, that's good too.

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Yeah, that's good too.

 

Okay... Does the case offer a lot of space for future upgrades?

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Okay... Does the case offer a lot of space for future upgrades?

It's pretty good for most future upgrades (enough space for SSD's and HDD's etc.) but for SLI it is not as good (because this case is optimized for silence and not SLI)

You could consider the Corsair 450D too

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It's pretty good for most future upgrades (enough space for SSD's and HDD's etc.) but for SLI it is not as good (because this case is optimized for silence and not SLI)

You could consider the Corsair 450D too

 

What is SLI?

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What is SLI?

If you are using multiple Nvidia GPU's, that is called SLI.

 

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If you are using multiple Nvidia GPU's, that is called SLI.

 

 

So basically it's using multiple graphics cards? I might do that in the future, can I fit like 1 more into the case originally suggested? And does the rest of the parts in the computer support it?

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So basically it's using multiple graphics cards? I might do that in the future, can I fit like 1 more into the case originally suggested? And does the rest of the parts in the computer support it?

- yes.

- yes. (although I heard some other cases are better for it, but this one is pretty good too. You would have to ask some others, because I don't know that much about them)

- yes.

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Does the 

 

- yes.

- yes. (although I heard some other cases are better for it, but this one is pretty good too. You would have to ask some others, because I don't know that much about them)

- yes.

 

Why would another case be better for it? If it fits, it sits right? Air flow maybe?

 

Does the DVD writer matter too much, or will basically any do? Should I consider a blu-ray supporting one?

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Does the 

 

 

Why would another case be better for it? If it fits, it sits right? Air flow maybe?

 

Does the DVD writer matter too much, or will basically any do? Should I consider a blu-ray supporting one?

Not 100% sure, but I think it is because airflow. The R5 is a really silent case, so not a lot of fans maybe?

And DVD drive.. Really the cheapest one from a good brand (like Samsung or LG) is fine. Personally I wouldn't need a Blu Ray drive and I don't see the use. You use Blu rays often?

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Not 100% sure, but I think it is because airflow. The R5 is a really silent case, so not a lot of fans maybe?

And DVD drive.. Really the cheapest one from a good brand (like Samsung or LG) is fine. Personally I wouldn't need a Blu Ray drive and I don't see the use. You use Blu rays often?

 

The Corsair case was not very much more expensive and it looks cooler so I guess I'll pick that haha

 

Alright well, here's a stupid question about the DVD drive... Does it really matter if it's loud? You don't need the disc to be in when you're playing a game nowadays right?

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The Corsair case was not very much more expensive and it looks cooler so I guess I'll pick that haha

 

Alright well, here's a stupid question about the DVD drive... Does it really matter if it's loud? You don't need the disc to be in when you're playing a game nowadays right?

Many of the physical PC games now just give you a link to Steam and often have no data on the disc itself.

GTA V for example came on 6 DVD's, but you only need those to install, not to play (physical GTA V is not a Steam download though)

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Many of the physical PC games now just give you a link to Steam and often have no data on the disc itself.

GTA V for example came on 6 DVD's, but you only need those to install, not to play (physical GTA V is not a Steam download though)

 

Alright well, I think I have this pretty sorted out now... It's a lot more expensive on the site I would normally buy from though... We'll see what I do about that I guess

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