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AMD where is your pure enthusiasts CPU line pure gamer i.e. Hardcore gamers don't want cpu with a little bit of integrated graphics they want raw cpu power.....fx9590 this is what you call enthusiasts cpu then AMD then will laging a million miles behind intel.....those crap APUs will not cut off. If AMD doesn't do anything then AMD might lose their enthusiasts to over intel.....stop making rebranded GPUs and make some asskicking cpu....

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r u lost...?

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That is not i want to say intel has their enthusiasts chips i that case what does amd hav to offer

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They hav their i7 and i5s in arond $200 to $450...which would crush any of amds so called cpus

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I bought an AMD CPU because it would be a few months before I could afford an dedicated graphics card, and the APU served me well. And my other option was the 2 thread Pentium, which is starting to not be enough. Most of my games are a little old, and by the time I could afford a GPU that would be bottlnecked, I'd be able to afford an i5 too. It's not as bad as it sounds if you stick to the low end of the scale, bit I do recognize that Intel is objectively better in most cases. BF4 is the only game I can't keep above 60 fps, and I don't mind 45-50 fps.

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AMD where is your pure enthusiasts CPU line pure gamer i.e. Hardcore gamers don't want cpu with a little bit of integrated graphics they want raw cpu power.....fx9590 this is what you call enthusiasts cpu then AMD then will laging a million miles behind intel.....those crap APUs will not cut off. If AMD doesn't do anything then AMD might lose their enthusiasts to over intel.....stop making rebranded GPUs and make some asskicking cpu....

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and APU is still a cpu.......

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But i am not talking about the low end cpu..... But the high and enthusiasts ones...

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The GPUs are not rebrands, they're refreshes. A rebrand is the same card with a new name, a refresh is an updated card (e.g. higher binned, more VRAM) with a new name.

if you have to insist you think for yourself, i'm not going to believe you.

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But i am not talking about the low end cpu..... But the high and enthusiasts ones...

 have you not been following anything so far this year? In May AMD gave more information about what they are working on. They gave information about the next CPU platform AM4 which will house zen APUs that balance CPU and iGPU power for the low end and chips that favor CPU over iGPU for enthusiasts. This will be due early-mid 2016

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Look in india an apu costs around 15k ok and in that price i can get a fx6300 and r7 260x.... Which would be great....

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  • Where have you been for the last 2 years? Heard of "Zen" being worked on?

Both AMD and NVidia rebrands GPUs. AMD is throwing out... 5  new GPU's (if you count the "working prototype" Tonga -- like the GTX 750Ti)

APU's are targeted at a different market. If you are mixing those together, MIGHT as well add in the 16-core / 18-core $4000+ CPUs into the mix as well

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okay.. the latest cpu (not apu) from amd are from 2013. the 9590 was pretty much an overclocked 8350.

 

they havent really made any decent cpu's unless they were brand spankin new.

 

but zen seems very interesting.

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But i am not talking about the low end cpu..... But the high and enthusiasts ones...

This has been talked about 100000x times.

Your YEARS late to the party.

 

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Yup zen is coming with hyperthreading which intel has introduced way on...what do u thik zen...

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65W APU for a mini-ITX HTPC.....or FX-6300 + R9-260X (95W + 115W) in ATX size.

 

Not trying to bias this towards AMD but...

 

Yup zen is coming with hyperthreading which intel has introduced way on...what do u thik zen...

 

If you put it this way:

  • Intel followed AMD with multi-core CPUs. Athlon 64 X2 came out in 2005
  • AMD first used GDDR5 on their graphics cards on the HD 4870. Now GDDR5 is used by NVidia as well
  • AMD has now implemented HBM on their GPUs; Nvidia is to follow with Pascal

 

Might as well throw this in too:

  • Intel first implemented x64 in 2001. AMD followed in 2003.

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Tdp is not an issue here which one will you chose to begin based on raw performance

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You know there's no real difference between calling an i3 a CPU and an A6 an APU right? By definition an APU is a processor and an iGPU on a single chip. Therefore an i5 4690k is as much an APU as an A10 7850K.

 

The only difference is that Intel keeps marketing their units as CPUs and AMD keeps up with the APU labeling because that's what they are. Accelerated Processing Units. The only ones that actually correctly deserve the CPU moniker are things like Xeons or the Athlon X4 860K that have no iGPU.

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Agree but they r of no good

The R9 390 beats the GTX 970 at the same price point, and also includes a larger frame buffer for 4K. Why would the R9 390 be no good?

if you have to insist you think for yourself, i'm not going to believe you.

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Fury x is the titan killer so i think 390 will do better than 980 and 980ti

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