New LGA1150 CPU that doesn't bottleneck my desktop

[Drakinite_]

I have a new desktop that I finished building last Friday, and it works like a charm. I followed my advice from another thread to get an Intel Pentium g3258, but I bought an MSI Z97M-G43 mobo, a GeForce GT 740, and 8GB Kingston HyperX 1866MHz DDR3. It may become obvious to someone technically inclined that this is not right, and that the g3258 would cause a bottleneck.

I can confirm that, because the CPU often causes freezes for a few seconds, without causing any of the other parts to break a sweat.

I started to overclock it to 4.0GHz last night, but overclocking scares me and the computer still freezes..

 

Since I already have the computer and nothing is limiting my or budget (my budget increases with time, because of my job, of course) what would you guys recommend would be able to match my motherboard and graphics card?

Its primary purpose is game development / gaming, and its secondary purpose is heavy internet browsing / media.

 

Again, the specs:

Intel Pentium g3258

MSI Z97M-G43

NVIDIA + EVGA GeForce GT 740

8GB 1866MHz DDR3 RAM

 

Thanks in advance!

[WolfysTech]

I'd boost up the G3258 To 4.4Ghz with like a Hyper 212 Evo, a GT 740 Should we well enough not to cause bottlenecks, You shouldn't really have any. I'm not entirely sure. + The voltage.

 

4.4Ghz - 1.212v

[ZetZet]

Freezing is not bottlenecking.

[Afiqos4253]

I may not be so good at recommending parts, but have you considered the I5-4460?

[CatzRuleZWorld]

I have the same CPU but a 750ti. No bottle necking for me but mine is at 4.4ghz. I did notice stutters doing almost anything when it was at 4.0ghz. If you didn't care to overclock though you should have gotten an i3 although I define fly wouldn't have recommended any of those parts to you

[Goldensapling]

A G3258 bottlenecking a GT 740? HAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHHAHAHAHAHHAA no.

[Wauthar]

Eh, I think the CPU is ways ahead of the GT740. If anything, your GPU is a bottleneck.

I don't think that's the case here, though.

[Blebekblebek]

your Intel HD is probably capable enough to run anything you need.

 

[ThomasD]

Exactly what do you mean when you say "the CPU freezes"?

 

What applications are you running, and what do you experience?

[Nena Trinity]

Freezes are not bottlenecks but something is wrong... Check drivers?

[-iSynthesis]

I have a new desktop that I finished building last Friday, and it works like a charm. I followed my advice from another thread to get an Intel Pentium g3258, but I bought an MSI Z97M-G43 mobo, a GeForce GT 740, and 8GB Kingston HyperX 1866MHz DDR3. It may become obvious to someone technically inclined that this is not right, and that the g3258 would cause a bottleneck.

I can confirm that, because the CPU often causes freezes for a few seconds, without causing any of the other parts to break a sweat.

I started to overclock it to 4.0GHz last night, but overclocking scares me and the computer still freezes..

 

Since I already have the computer and nothing is limiting my or budget (my budget increases with time, because of my job, of course) what would you guys recommend would be able to match my motherboard and graphics card?

Its primary purpose is game development / gaming, and its secondary purpose is heavy internet browsing / media.

 

Again, the specs:

Intel Pentium g3258

MSI Z97M-G43

NVIDIA + EVGA GeForce GT 740

8GB 1866MHz DDR3 RAM

 

Thanks in advance!

Update the GPU a long time before the CPU lol. There is no single bottleneck with a gt 740, a 960 usually shouldnt, depending on the game.

[ubw]

I have a new desktop that I finished building last Friday, and it works like a charm. I followed my advice from another thread to get an Intel Pentium g3258, but I bought an MSI Z97M-G43 mobo, a GeForce GT 740, and 8GB Kingston HyperX 1866MHz DDR3. It may become obvious to someone technically inclined that this is not right, and that the g3258 would cause a bottleneck.

I can confirm that, because the CPU often causes freezes for a few seconds, without causing any of the other parts to break a sweat.

I started to overclock it to 4.0GHz last night, but overclocking scares me and the computer still freezes..

Since I already have the computer and nothing is limiting my or budget (my budget increases with time, because of my job, of course) what would you guys recommend would be able to match my motherboard and graphics card?

Its primary purpose is game development / gaming, and its secondary purpose is heavy internet browsing / media.

Again, the specs:

Intel Pentium g3258

MSI Z97M-G43

NVIDIA + EVGA GeForce GT 740

8GB 1866MHz DDR3 RAM

Thanks in advance!

You're looking for a new GPU first, gt series are entry level. Get a gtx 750ti or 960/970.

[itachipirate]

Upgrade your GPU first then think about your processor

[WastedEmu]

I have a new desktop that I finished building last Friday, and it works like a charm. I followed my advice from another thread to get an Intel Pentium g3258, but I bought an MSI Z97M-G43 mobo, a GeForce GT 740, and 8GB Kingston HyperX 1866MHz DDR3. It may become obvious to someone technically inclined that this is not right, and that the g3258 would cause a bottleneck.

I can confirm that, because the CPU often causes freezes for a few seconds, without causing any of the other parts to break a sweat.

I started to overclock it to 4.0GHz last night, but overclocking scares me and the computer still freezes..

Since I already have the computer and nothing is limiting my or budget (my budget increases with time, because of my job, of course) what would you guys recommend would be able to match my motherboard and graphics card?

Its primary purpose is game development / gaming, and its secondary purpose is heavy internet browsing / media.

Again, the specs:

Intel Pentium g3258

MSI Z97M-G43

NVIDIA + EVGA GeForce GT 740

8GB 1866MHz DDR3 RAM

Thanks in advance!

One of the things I have a question about is, was it a fresh install of windows? Or did you just swap the HDD (or SSD since you didn't mention storage) from an older machine to the current one?

I have a G3258, and I've never noticed any freezing or anything, and it's paired with an AMD HD 7950

[i_build_nanosuits]

Again, the specs:

Intel Pentium g3258

MSI Z97M-G43

NVIDIA + EVGA GeForce GT 740

8GB 1866MHz DDR3 RAM

You have a weak CPU and VERY weak GPU...this would turn your crappy desktop into a good mid-range gaming PC`:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($176.98 @ NCIX US)

Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 280 3GB Dual-X Video Card ($149.99 @ Newegg)

Total: $326.97

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-06-13 21:44 EDT-0400

[Nena Trinity]

You have a weak CPU and VERY weak GPU...this would turn your crappy desktop into a good mid-range gaming PC`:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($176.98 @ NCIX US)

Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 280 3GB Dual-X Video Card ($149.99 @ Newegg)

Total: $326.97

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-06-13 21:44 EDT-0400

Why not 280X?

[i_build_nanosuits]

Why not 280X?

because the cheapest R9 280X is 50$ more ...so 25% more expensive for an extra 10% performance...not worth it...if OP want to step it up beyond that i would recommend an R9 290 this one is 90$ more but price/performance you remain the same...

 

http://pcpartpicker.com/part/sapphire-video-card-1003623l

[Nena Trinity]

because the cheapest R9 280X is 50$ more ...so 25% more expensive for an extra 10% performance...not worth it...if OP want to step it up beyond that i would recommend an R9 290 this one is 90$ more but price/performance you remain the same...

 

http://pcpartpicker.com/part/sapphire-video-card-1003623l

Well its safer to go for 290 indeed.

 

But he should swap his Pentium for a i5 before that or some mays are gonna go. x.x

[Drakinite_]

I don't understand why you guys are saying that the GPU is weak. The graphics card has absolutely NO problem keeping an impressive framerate at full 75fps when doing anything but very intensive graphics. Something else about the graphics that I may have overlooked when stating the specs was that EVGA said it's ”superclocked." Whatever that may mean doesn't matter, because the GPU is definitely NOT the problem. When the freezes occur, they occur whether I am running a program that involves graphics or none at all.

These freezes are definitely the CPU, for the following reasons:

1. When the computer freezes, it does not respond to any inputs for several seconds.

2. If I have task manager open, during a freeze, it always says that the CPU (both cores) are at 100% processing capacity. The moment it goes below 100% is when it unfreezes. No exceptions have ever occurred.

Now, there is one thing that I observed that may point that the cause BEHIND the CPU getting overloaded is something else.

Any time I press the button on my keyboard to make the computer sleep, and then come back a few hours later, the freezes occur very commonly and for extended periods of time - at least once per minute that is over 5 seconds. After a restart, the freezing stops. If I leave the computer running overnight without letting it go on standby, when I use it in the morning, generally there are no issues. I will do further testing tomorrow and give an update.

In any case, the Pentium architecture IS old and I want a better CPU, so I will be buying the core i5-4690K. However I suspect that this freezing problem still needs to be resolved.

In conclusion, the CPU getting overloaded is definitely the problem - not the graphics card. However, the cause to the freezes COULD be something else. If you have any ideas after this update on information to help, that would be very great. Thanks.

[ApolloX75]

I don't understand why you guys are saying that the GPU is weak. The graphics card has absolutely NO problem keeping an impressive framerate at full 75fps when doing anything but very intensive graphics. Something else about the graphics that I may have overlooked when stating the specs was that EVGA said it's ”superclocked." Whatever that may mean doesn't matter, because the GPU is definitely NOT the problem. When the freezes occur, they occur whether I am running a program that involves graphics or none at all.

These freezes are definitely the CPU, for the following reasons:

1. When the computer freezes, it does not respond to any inputs for several seconds.

2. If I have task manager open, during a freeze, it always says that the CPU (both cores) are at 100% processing capacity. The moment it goes below 100% is when it unfreezes. No exceptions have ever occurred.

Now, there is one thing that I observed that may point that the cause BEHIND the CPU getting overloaded is something else.

Any time I press the button on my keyboard to make the computer sleep, and then come back a few hours later, the freezes occur very commonly and for extended periods of time - at least once per minute that is over 5 seconds. After a restart, the freezing stops. If I leave the computer running overnight without letting it go on standby, when I use it in the morning, generally there are no issues. I will do further testing tomorrow and give an update.

In any case, the Pentium architecture IS old and I want a better CPU, so I will be buying the core i5-4690K. However I suspect that this freezing problem still needs to be resolved.

In conclusion, the CPU getting overloaded is definitely the problem - not the graphics card. However, the cause to the freezes COULD be something else. If you have any ideas after this update on information to help, that would be very great. Thanks.

Update your BIOS. There is a revision that specifically improves performance and compatability with the G3258 for your board.

 

http://www.msi.com/support/mb/Z97M-G43.html#down-bios

[Drakinite_]

Update your BIOS. There is a revision that specifically improves performance and compatability with the G3258 for your board.

http://www.msi.com/support/mb/Z97M-G43.html#down-bios

Thanks, I will try that. In the meantime, if that doesn't work, (to anyone left on the thread) I made a new thread because this might not be a hardware issue. If it is a bios issue, well I'll have mixed feelings - Happy that I won't have the problem, bit pissed because I just spent 45 minutes typing it out on my phone.

It is here: http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/404097-cpu-freezes-on-a-custom-built-computer/

[Drakinite_]

Update your BIOS. There is a revision that specifically improves performance and compatability with the G3258 for your board.

http://www.msi.com/support/mb/Z97M-G43.html#down-bios

Thanks, I will try that. In the meantime, if that doesn't work, (to anyone left on the thread) I made a new thread because this might not be a hardware issue. If it is a bios issue, well I'll have mixed feelings - Happy that I won't have the problem, bit pissed because I just spent 45 minutes typing it out on my phone.

It is here: http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/404097-cpu-freezes-on-a-custom-built-computer/

[Statecat]

I have a new desktop that I finished building last Friday, and it works like a charm. I followed my advice from another thread to get an Intel Pentium g3258, but I bought an MSI Z97M-G43 mobo, a GeForce GT 740, and 8GB Kingston HyperX 1866MHz DDR3. It may become obvious to someone technically inclined that this is not right, and that the g3258 would cause a bottleneck.

I can confirm that, because the CPU often causes freezes for a few seconds, without causing any of the other parts to break a sweat.

I started to overclock it to 4.0GHz last night, but overclocking scares me and the computer still freezes..

Since I already have the computer and nothing is limiting my or budget (my budget increases with time, because of my job, of course) what would you guys recommend would be able to match my motherboard and graphics card?

Its primary purpose is game development / gaming, and its secondary purpose is heavy internet browsing / media.

Again, the specs:

Intel Pentium g3258

MSI Z97M-G43

NVIDIA + EVGA GeForce GT 740

8GB 1866MHz DDR3 RAM

Thanks in advance!

Doesn't seem like a bottleneck, more of a glitch. Software bugs? Running the latest drivers?