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Right, since most of my drives are approaching half capacity, I reckon it's about time to fill the last 3.5" HDD tray in my 350D. I'm looking for something that has a large capacity (4TB+) and will be reliable. Here are some examples of what I can get here in Aus:

- 4TB WD Red ($227)

- 4TB Seagate SSHD ($229)

- 4TB WD Black ($295)

- 5TB WD Red ($294)

- 6TB WD Red ($374)

- 6TB Seagate Archive HDD V2 ($329)

- 8TB Seagate Archive HDD ($349)

 

What kinds of HDDs would you guys recommend?

 

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SSHD for storage is useless.

WD Red 4TB or Seagate Barracuda 4TB are the best value options.

 

WD Black is overpriced in my opinion.

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What will you be using it for?

OS or games: WD Black.

24/7 operation (server stuff): WD Red

Only storage for pictures and stuff that doesn't mean lots of read and writes? WD Green

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What will you be using it for?

OS or games: WD Black.

24/7 operation (server stuff): WD Red

Only storage for pictures and stuff that doesn't mean lots of read and writes? WD Green

I don't see why you think WD Red is only for server stuff, it's great for secondary hard drive because it's fast enough and it has reduced heat/vibrations. WD Green is just bad.

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SSHD for storage is useless.

WD Red 4TB or Seagate Barracuda 4TB are the best value options.

 

WD Black is overpriced in my opinion.

Why is SSHD useless for storage? o_O

I was thinking about getting the WD Red. I've heard excellent things about them.

 

Dang thats expensive, but i guess its reasonable

Welcome to Australia haha

 

What will you be using it for?

OS or games: WD Black.

24/7 operation (server stuff): WD Red

Only storage for pictures and stuff that doesn't mean lots of read and writes? WD Green

I think I'll be putting programs on it. I have a 2TB for movies and such. Although I suspect it won't be enough

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I don't see why you think WD Red is only for server stuff, it's great for secondary hard drive because it's fast enough and it has reduced heat/vibrations. WD Green is just bad.

hehe my current 2TB HDD is a WD Green :P

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Why is SSHD useless for storage? o_O

Because SSHD's store often used data in ssd portion so they can be accessed fast, for storage it doesn't work that way because you will keep loading up different files all the time and it has no time to adapt the ssd part to speed up the loading process.

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I don't see why you think WD Red is only for server stuff, it's great for secondary hard drive because it's fast enough and it has reduced heat/vibrations. WD Green is just bad.

It isn't only for that, but if OP was looking for drives that would be on for 24/7, Reds are something to look at.

And Greens are quite often very cheap. And if this storage really is only storage and if he works/watches the stuff on it, he moves it to his main drive, it might be alright.

 

Why is SSHD useless for storage? o_O

I was thinking about getting the WD Red. I've heard excellent things about them.

 

Welcome to Australia haha

 

I think I'll be putting programs on it. I have a 2TB for movies and such. Although I suspect it won't be enough

SSHD is useless for storage, because you will never use the SS (SSD) cache part of it.

If you will use it for programs, I would probably recommend Red drives or Black.

 

Maybe @captain_WD can help you a bit too

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Because SSHD's store often used data in ssd portion so they can be accessed fast, for storage it doesn't work that way because you will keep loading up different files all the time and it has no time to adapt the ssd part to speed up the loading process.

Ahhh very interesting. I get it.

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It isn't only for that, but if OP was looking for drives that would be on for 24/7, Reds are something to look at.

And Greens are quite often very cheap. And if this storage really is only storage and if he works/watches the stuff on it, he moves it to his main drive, it might be alright.

The cheap part is true, but so are Barracudas and they are as good. If you want something a little more expensive WD Red makes the most sense.

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It isn't only for that, but if OP was looking for drives that would be on for 24/7, Reds are something to look at.

And Greens are quite often very cheap. And if this storage really is only storage and if he works/watches the stuff on it, he moves it to his main drive, it might be alright.

 

SSHD is useless for storage, because you will never use the SS (SSD) cache part of it.

If you will use it for programs, I would probably recommend Red drives or Black.

 

Maybe @Captain_WD can help you a bit too

My drives won't be on 24/7 (although I'm thinking about getting a NAS soon so I'll avoid greens for those). What's up with the Seagate Archive drives btw? The 8TB one

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The cheap part is true, but so are Barracudas and they are as good. If you want something a little more expensive WD Red makes the most sense.

Barracudas aren't labeled on pcpartpicker =/ They seem to go up to 4TB on PcCaseGear and those are $199

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My drives won't be on 24/7 (although I'm thinking about getting a NAS soon so I'll avoid greens for those). What's up with the Seagate Archive drives btw? The 8TB one

Pretty sure they are business grade drives, or maybe server ones. Can't remember

I don't know that much about Seagate drivers.

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Barracudas aren't labeled on pcpartpicker =/ They seem to go up to 4TB on PcCaseGear and those are $199

http://au.pcpartpicker.com/part/seagate-internal-hard-drive-st4000dm000

This is the barracuda, you can always use the manufacturer code to search.

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Pretty sure they are business grade drives, or maybe server ones. Can't remember

I don't know that much about Seagate drivers.

I don't know much either haha.

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http://au.pcpartpicker.com/part/seagate-internal-hard-drive-st4000dm000

This is the barracuda, you can always use the manufacturer code to search.

Ahh sick. Ok. I'll remember that next time I'm looking for a barra drive

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Ahh sick. Ok. I'll remember that next time I'm looking for a barra drive

They recently changed their naming scheme I dunno why, but now they are just called desktop hdd http://www.seagate.com/gb/en/internal-hard-drives/desktop-hard-drives/desktop-hdd/

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They recently changed their naming scheme I dunno why, but now they are just called desktop hdd http://www.seagate.com/gb/en/internal-hard-drives/desktop-hard-drives/desktop-hdd/

Cus they're boring? I dunno haha. Barracuda is a sick name for a hdd.

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I don't really want to buy HGST either. Nothing wrong with them, I just think they might be a little over priced

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Right, since most of my drives are approaching half capacity, I reckon it's about time to fill the last 3.5" HDD tray in my 350D. I'm looking for something that has a large capacity (4TB+) and will be reliable. Here are some examples of what I can get here in Aus:

- 4TB WD Red ($227)

- 4TB Seagate SSHD ($229)

- 4TB WD Black ($295)

- 5TB WD Red ($294)

- 6TB WD Red ($374)

- 6TB Seagate Archive HDD V2 ($329)

- 8TB Seagate Archive HDD ($349)

 

What kinds of HDDs would you guys recommend?

 

Cheers

 

 

Hey jtai117,
 
Larger HDDs tend to have better read/write speeds compared to their smaller versions due to data density. Since you are planning on using the drive in a regular desktop and putting programs on it, rather than using it as a simple massive media storage space, I'd recommend looking at some performance-optimized drives. 
 
WD Green is a good drive for storing huge amount of data that doesn't need fast access time and works pretty cool and quiet plus it saves energy. It might not be fast enough for some programs, though.
WD Red works similarly to WD Green in regular desktop with similar speeds, so that also might not be the best choice. 
WD Black performs faster than the other two drives, but as every performance-oriented drive, it can be louder and produce more vibrations compared to WD Green and WD Black. It has longer warranty and is built to sustain harsher environments and longer workloads. It can be more expensive, though. 
It really depends on how fast do you need the drive to be. :)
SSHD can be a viable option if you use just a few programs mainly, as @ZetZet explained (again, depends on what you are doing with the drive). 
 
I can't really comment on other brands since I am a WD representative, I'm sorry for that.  
 
In any way, I would recommend having a backup of your important files as I always find it dangerous to store so much data on a single drive with no backup or at least redundancy. 
 
Thanks @Minibois for mentioning :)
 
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-snip- or -spin- in this case :P

 

Wow, detailed response. Thanks! I don't think I need the drive to be super fast and I personally thing that the Black is a bit too expensive for me currently. Just wondering, would the purples be any better? Or am I better off sticking with Reds? Also, what's up with the Red Pro, SE and RE? the SE and RE are enterprise grade drives yes?

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Wow, detailed response. Thanks! I don't think I need the drive to be super fast and I personally thing that the Black is a bit too expensive for me currently. Just wondering, would the purples be any better? Or am I better off sticking with Reds? Also, what's up with the Red Pro, SE and RE? the SE and RE are enterprise grade drives yes?

 

 

Well WD Purple are good drives for recording videos and for streaming media. They have optimized sequential speeds and work really quiet, but they lack optimized random read/write speeds. They might work fine, but I believe WD Green, WD Red and WD Black would be a more suitable choice.
 
You can think of WD Red Pro as an improved version of WD Red in terms of performance. These drives are designed for larger drive bays, have higher rpm and longer warranty and work generally faster. I loved the 4TB version when I first tested it out, reaching over 175MB/s on the benchmark. But they can be expensive for regular desktop usage. 
 
WD Se and WD Re are enterprise-level drives that are also more expensive than the regular drives. They have optimized lifespan, sustain much harsher environments and have great speeds. 
 
Here are some links with additional info and spec sheets on these drives:
WD Purple:
 
WD Red Pro:
 
WD Se:
 
WD Re: 
 
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Wow, detailed response. Thanks! I don't think I need the drive to be super fast and I personally thing that the Black is a bit too expensive for me currently. Just wondering, would the purples be any better? Or am I better off sticking with Reds? Also, what's up with the Red Pro, SE and RE? the SE and RE are enterprise grade drives yes?

 

You can find a pretty decent amount of info on the WD drives in this topic: http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/291871-wd-question-thread-hard-drives-dual-drive-setups-storage-setup-optimization/:)

 

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I'll definitely go through these when I have some spare time. Need to prepare for a presentation on Monday D:

 

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