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I was wondering if their is a card that is both good for Solidworks and catia along with running Games at medium to high with 60fps

 

the use is mostly for college and university level engineering using the 3d modeling software above

 

and any suggestions for a build would also be greatly appreciated

since I have a 3000$Can budget im looking about 1000$ for a GPU

 

my ideas were along the lines of the 780ti and the 980

 

thanks ahead of time for any suggestions or recommendations

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Why get those, get a Titan X if your going to blow $1000...

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Why get those, get a Titan X if your going to blow $1000...

yes but would that run solidworks and catia well also which one of the the x or the black

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yes but would that run solidworks and catia well also which one of the the x or the black

I don't know if it could run that, you might want to do some research. And the X is the newer better one. Its considered the best graphics card in the world now.  

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I don't know if it could run that, you might want to do some research. And the X is the newer better one. Its considered the best graphics card in the world now.  

While that may be true, it doesn't have proper FP64 support - it actually falls flat on its face in FP64 applications, so if OP decides to run those down the road, the Titan X will not suffice at all. http://www.anandtech.com/show/9059/the-nvidia-geforce-gtx-titan-x-review/15

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While that may be true, it doesn't have proper FP64 support - it actually falls flat on its face in FP64 applications, so if OP decides to run those down the road, the Titan X will not suffice at all. http://www.anandtech.com/show/9059/the-nvidia-geforce-gtx-titan-x-review/15

sorry i dont know what fp64 is but the programs i will be using are going to be solidworks catia and most autodesk products i am most worried about when i get to larger models and assemblies will the GPU be able to run it smooth still

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sorry i dont know what fp64 is but the programs i will be using are going to be solidworks catia and most autodesk products i am most worried about when i get to larger models and assemblies will the GPU be able to run it smooth still

FP64 means Floating Point 64 bit. It's 64 bit computing. I don't have experience with those programs, so I cannot tell you.

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I was wondering if their is a card that is both good for Solidworks and catia along with running Games at medium to high with 60fps

 

the use is mostly for college and university level engineering using the 3d modeling software above

 

and any suggestions for a build would also be greatly appreciated

since I have a 3000$Can budget im looking about 1000$ for a GPU

 

my ideas were along the lines of the 780ti and the 980

 

thanks ahead of time for any suggestions or recommendations

I run Solidworks on a Dual Core i5 and a GT525M. It's not a demanding thing :P

What games do you want to play?

 

 

Why get those, get a Titan X if your going to blow $1000...

CAD, not USD.

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Solidworks and CATIA both seem to fare better on Radeon cards than GeForce, FP64 or no. Solidworks is more CPU-limited than anything though, the GPU isn't ultra-important.

The 290X might be a good option here.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-titan-opencl-cuda-workstation,3474-8.html

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I run Solidworks on a Dual Core i5 and a GT525M. It's not a demanding thing :P

What games do you want to play?

 

 

CAD, not USD.

well the games I play are some higher end ones such as Starcitizen and GTA5 but also f2p games too

 

also when you use solidworks do you do larger scale models

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well the games I play are some higher end ones such as Starcitizen and GTA5 but also f2p games too

 

also when you use solidworks do you do larger scale models

Not that big. But considering that a small project can run on a gaming-focused, relatively weak, mobile chipset, show that there's not a lot of horse power needed to natively run the program. Any GTX will work big time for you, or a Quadro if you have the cash for it.

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Not that big. But considering that a small project can run on a gaming-focused, relatively weak, mobile chipset, show that there's not a lot of horse power needed to natively run the program. Any GTX will work big time for you, or a Quadro if you have the cash for it.

so would a 980 be a good choice with say a 5820k for what i want to do

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so would a 980 be a good choice with say a 5820k for what i want to do

What kind of projects will you be drawing? Will you be running simulations etc?

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I ran Catia on HD graphics and it wasn't too bad. 

980 should be more than enough

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well when your talking 3d modelling stuff the native answer is quadro. at your budget youll probably end with a k4200 or k5000.

if you wanna game at the same time you'd normally would pick a titan. but the titan x kinda broke the naming sceme cause it doesnt feature ECC and has very poor fp64 support. so it should have been a 980ti :D

 

back to your problem i would pick up a titan black 

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well when your talking 3d modelling stuff the native answer is quadro. at your budget youll probably end with a k4200 or k5000.

if you wanna game at the same time you'd normally would pick a titan. but the titan x kinda broke the naming sceme cause it doesnt feature ECC and has very poor fp64 support. so it should have been a 980ti :D

 

back to your problem i would pick up a titan black 

i see so a titan black is best option for both gaming and work

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i see so a titan black is best option for both gaming and work

 

Not necessarily. Like I said, SolidWorks doesn't use double precision, so the Titan won't help you there. I think it's the same for CATIA. A TITAN Black shouldn't be any different from a GTX 780 Ti in this scenario.

 

Ideally you would want a Quadro for these kind of applications though, they use a very different set of drivers optimized for this kind of workload. Since the TITAN uses the same GeForce drivers as the gaming cards, it won't be of any extra benefit.

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The gaming cards are not officially supported by Solidworks. The program only wants Quadro or FirePro cards. Without those cards you will not be able to get the fancier "RealView" graphics without doing a regedit and installing "realhack 3.x" or above. I am using a GTX 980 (and a GTX 580 before) and I performed the registry tweaks and can enable the features as if I had a workstation card. One important thing to note is that when you actually do a render, it is all CPU bound. The GPU is only using in the RealView preview. So, the more CPU cores you can have, the better. Take a look at some of the SolidWorks benchmark scores before you make your purchase:

 

SolidWorks Performance Test Results:

 

Graphics: 8.6 sec

Processor: 28.8 sec

I/O: 17.9 sec

Overall: 55.3 sec

 

Rendering: 22.4 sec

Performance: 7.6 sec

 

 

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Not necessarily. Like I said, SolidWorks doesn't use double precision, so the Titan won't help you there. I think it's the same for CATIA. A TITAN Black shouldn't be any different from a GTX 780 Ti in this scenario.

 

Ideally you would want a Quadro for these kind of applications though, they use a very different set of drivers optimized for this kind of workload. Since the TITAN uses the same GeForce drivers as the gaming cards, it won't be of any extra benefit.

well i didnt worked intensly with solidworks before but i definetely know that catia benefits from quadro cards. so it should benefit from double precision, or some kinda wodoo magic going on under the hood :D

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well i didnt worked intensly with solidworks before but i definetely know that catia benefits from quadro cards. so it should benefit from double precision, or some kinda wodoo magic going on under the hood :D

 

It's really the drivers that make Quadros so good at these applications, not the double precision. Just to be clear, the Quadro K6000 and the K5200 are the only Kepler-based Quadro cards that have the full 1/3 double precision, the rest get basic 1/24 like the GeForce cards. Maxwell cards all have 1/32.

 

Just for reference I ran the SPECviewperf 12 SolidWorks benchmark on my 780 Ti, and I got a composite score of 39.41fps. According to Tom's hardware which used a pretty similar system to test it http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/firepro-w9100-performance,3810-9.html the Quadro K5000 gets almost double the framerate with half the cores. And the K5000 has no double precision capabilities. Even the K2000 almost matches my score, and it's got 384 cores (and again, no double precision) against my 2880. Same story in the CATIA benchmark, the K5000 gets over double my score with half the cores and no double precision.

 

Realview also can't be enabled in SolidWorks without a Quadro (or FirePro) card.

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It's really the drivers that make Quadros so good at these applications, not the double precision. Just to be clear, the Quadro K6000 and the K5200 are the only Kepler-based Quadro cards that have the full 1/3 double precision, the rest get basic 1/24 like the GeForce cards. Maxwell cards all have 1/32.

 

Just for reference I ran the SPECviewperf 12 SolidWorks benchmark on my 780 Ti, and I got a composite score of 39.41fps. According to Tom's hardware which used a pretty similar system to test it http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/firepro-w9100-performance,3810-9.html the Quadro K5000 gets almost double the framerate with half the cores. And the K5000 has no double precision capabilities. Even the K2000 almost matches my score, and it's got 384 cores (and again, no double precision) against my 2880. Same story in the CATIA benchmark, the K5000 gets over double my score with half the cores and no double precision.

 

Realview also can't be enabled in SolidWorks without a Quadro (or FirePro) card.

 

well back to his problem. i think you know better about the titans 3d modeling performance but i defientely know that the firepro cards perform a little better in gaming than the quadros (even tho none of them are made for gaming)

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