Acer xr341cka or Acer z35 or wait?

[Guest Strangerbob]

Im the kind of guy whos tried it all and done with all of it and just wants the best-in-slot monitor for gaming.

 

21:9 is a must.

Non-TN is a must.

32"+ is a must.

Flicker Free with Gsync is a must. (Not paying $$$ for freesync to have some "issues" again.)

 

 

There are two upcoming monitors that tick all of these:

 

Acer xr341cka - 34inch, IPS, 3440x1440, 75hz, gsync

Acer z35 - 35inch, VA, 2560x1080?, 144hz, gsync

 

The choice is resolution vs refresh rate... or wait a bit more in hopes to not have to choose?

 

(oh and dont concern yourself with pc performance pls)

[Jonathan W]

 

Im the kind of guy whos tried it all and done with all of it and just wants the best-in-slot monitor for gaming.

 

21:9 is a must.

Non-TN is a must.

32"+ is a must.

Flicker Free with Gsync is a must. (Not paying $$$ for freesync to have some "issues" again.)

 

 

There are two upcoming monitors that tick all of these:

 

Acer xr341cka - 34inch, IPS, 3440x1440, 75hz, gsync

Acer z35 - 35inch, VA, 2560x1080?, 144hz, gsync

 

The choice is resolution vs refresh rate... or wait a bit more in hopes to not have to choose?

 

(oh and dont concern yourself with pc performance pls)

 

 

im curious as to your reasoning behind a 32"+ monitor..i have an ASUS MX279 and sitting with it at my desk it feels MASSIVE

[Guest Strangerbob]

im curious as to your reasoning behind a 32"+ monitor..i have an ASUS MX279 and sitting with it at my desk it feels MASSIVE

 

well, a 34" 21:9 is as high as a 16:9 27"... i dont want more height than that, but i do what THAT height; dont want some puny tiny monitor

[alsabah.k6]

If you don't want TN and you want it over 30 inches I think you would be happy with the LG 40UB8000 this may sound a little weird using a tv as a monitor but trust me it's a great choice (if you have the horsepower to run 4k)

[alsabah.k6]

If you don't want TN and you want it over 30 inches I think you would be happy with the LG 40UB8000 this may sound a little weird using a tv as a monitor but trust me it's a great choice (if you have the horsepower to run 4k)

But it's not g sync

[Guest Strangerbob]

But it's not g sync

 

Ye, ive seen the 40" 4k panels. Thx, They look nice.

But gsync and 21:9 is a must.

 

I have the opportunity to buy a 34" 21:9 for 300eur. Even tho its almost 2.5x cheaper than a new one, i am not doing it because i refuse to play without gsync ever again.

[alsabah.k6]

Ye, ive seen the 40" 4k panels. Thx, They look nice.

But gsync and 21:9 is a must.

I have the opportunity to buy a 34" 21:9 for 300eur. Even tho its almost 2.5x cheaper than a new one, i am not doing it because i refuse to play without gsync ever again.

Then I think you have to wait because g sync is only getting started, but I wonder why is amd free sync is more mainstream then g sync I mean samsung has just released a new line of monitors like curved or uhd and it's kinda strange considering tha fact that free sync came a year later

[Guest Strangerbob]

Then I think you have to wait because g sync is only getting started, but I wonder why is amd free sync is more mainstream then g sync I mean samsung has just released a new line of monitors like curved or uhd and it's kinda strange considering tha fact that free sync came a year later

 

Nvidia is tuning each gsync scalar for each monitor. So they dont have ghosting issues like some freesync monitors due to lack of voltage control for pixels. Stuff like that.

 

Gsync basically is more expensive, but also higher quality.

Personally, i rather pay the extra 150$ then to have "issues" again.

[alsabah.k6]

Nvidia is tuning each gsync scalar for each monitor. So they dont have ghosting issues like some freesync monitors due to lack of voltage control for pixels. Stuff like that.

Gsync basically is more expensive, but also higher quality.

Personally, i rather pay the extra 150$ then to have "issues" again.

Apperantly a lot more expensive for the manufacturer I'm seeing many more freesync monitors than g sync anyway I agree with your descision g sync is better

[<doge>]

In the same boat as OP.

One thing to note is that neither of these monitors have been released yet, and some of the specs may be off. Unlikely, but possible.

Waiting for a better product however is silly, you could die tomorrow, waiting is not for me, I have been doing that for far too long, and will be snatching one of these "XR341CKA"s up as soon as possible. Inferring that the rumored specs are true, 144Hz is tempting, but 2560x1080 just seems like too low of a resolution for this large of an upgrade.

I'm looking for the absolute best monitor, 2560x1080 is not even "1440p".

The CKA appears to have everything, the 75Hz refresh rate is the only drawback, and I imagine it will be at least a few years before our technology can create a monitor with identical specs plus a 100Hz or greater refresh rate, but I am not willing to wait that long. I will be listening to hear what http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/ has to say about this beast.

 

OP, if you do decide to wait, be aware that you may be waiting for a while. If you buy the CKA, and then something better comes out after, you can always sell it and get back ~70 or 80% of the purchase price. This is my plan. Best of luck OP.

[Guest Strangerbob]

In the same boat as OP.

One thing to note is that neither of these monitors have been released yet, and some of the specs may be off. Unlikely, but possible.

Waiting for a better product however is silly, you could die tomorrow, waiting is not for me, I have been doing that for far too long, and will be snatching one of these "XR341CKA"s up as soon as possible. Inferring that the rumored specs are true, 144Hz is tempting, but 2560x1080 just seems like too low of a resolution for this large of an upgrade.

I'm looking for the absolute best monitor, 2560x1080 is not even "1440p".

The CKA appears to have everything, the 75Hz refresh rate is the only drawback, and I imagine it will be at least a few years before our technology can create a monitor with identical specs plus a 100Hz or greater refresh rate, but I am not willing to wait that long. I will be listening to hear what http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/ has to say about this beast.

 

OP, if you do decide to wait, be aware that you may be waiting for a while. If you buy the CKA, and then something better comes out after, you can always sell it and get back ~70 or 80% of the purchase price. This is my plan. Best of luck OP.

 

I also have the opportunity to buy a 34um95 60hz 1440p with no sync for 300eur. I wonder if i should get that to hold me over till the no compromise monitor arrives. But then i remember how playing without any sync feels like and i dont want to do anything.

[Tuxie]

I wouldn't be too concerned with a monitor only being 75 Hz when it has G-Sync (or FreeSync if they finally manage to implement it properly). Only if you're a professional FPS e-sporter with a monster PC you will notice any difference worth caring about. If you're like most and just want to get rid of microfreeze jerkiness and/or tearing to make the game feel smooth and fluid, Free/G-Sync will do a better job of that than high Hz. I wouldn't buy a 75 Hz screen withouth Free/G-Sync for gaming, though.

[Guest Strangerbob]

I wouldn't be too concerned with a monitor only being 75 Hz when it has G-Sync (or FreeSync if they finally manage to implement it properly). Only if you're a professional FPS e-sporter with a monster PC you will notice any difference worth caring about. If you're like most and just want to get rid of microfreeze jerkiness and/or tearing to make the game feel smooth and fluid, Free/G-Sync will do a better job of that than high Hz. I wouldn't buy a 75 Hz screen withouth Free/G-Sync for gaming, though.

 

I clearly can tell if the desktop is on 120hz/144hz OR 60/72/75hz. I can tell the difference between the high and low HZ like you can tell if its day or night outside. You can test me any time of the day for this.

 

I cant possibly care less about "pressional gaming". But id want to play theme hospital in 144hz either way.

[Tuxie]

I clearly can tell if the desktop is on 120hz/144hz OR 60/72/75hz. I can tell the difference between the high and low HZ like you can tell if its day or night outside. You can test me any time of the day for this.

 

I don't doubt that you can tell the difference, the question is if the difference is worth caring about enough to avoid a monitor that ticks all the other boxes.

[Guest Strangerbob]

I don't doubt that you can tell the difference, the question is if the difference is worth caring about enough to avoid a monitor that ticks all the other boxes.

 

I`d really love to have that above 100hz refresh rate.

Id just hate to get the xr341cka and then half a year later they come out with the same thats 120hz.

 

And the price for the xr341cka would have dropped fast anyway.

 

I think the best thing to do is to wait. Other competitors are surely to make their own versions of this. Maybe if someone makes a 100hz IPS instead of 75hz for it. That would even be good enough.

Otherwise... getting the 75hz and then endlessly thinking how 120hz would have been... i call that subconscious discomfort.

[<doge>]

"subconscious discomfort."

Lol, never knew what to call it.

Also-

 

"...a professional FPS e-sporter ..."

[anthonyc813]

is having over 75 Hz that big of a deal? Think that would be a drawback in MMOs and RPGs? I think Im gonna hold off on teh current g sync monitors and get this one instead. Hope Linus gets one soon to review before I charge 1300.00 !

[Guest Strangerbob]

is having over 75 Hz that big of a deal? Think that would be a drawback in MMOs and RPGs? I think Im gonna hold off on teh current g sync monitors and get this one instead. Hope Linus gets one soon to review before I charge 1300.00 !

 

Thank the gods its at least 75hz... instead of the horrible 60hz.

 

But for me personally, if i get the 75hz one, i will always have the thought at the back of my head - how would 144hz look like. So i am going to wait for that.

 

And the pixel density of the acer z35 isnt good enough (unless its like 500 eur, then it will be good enough for me).

 

 

Price is really the determining factor for all of these... for example i think the acer xr341cka is way overpriced. Considering the cheapest 60hz 1440p widescreen is 600EUR. Paying almost twice that for the 75hz and gsync upgrade seems like a bit of a ripoff. So even, if 144hz version of it doesn come, i personally can wait and will wait for more competition in this space.

[anthonyc813]

Thank the gods its at least 75hz... instead of the horrible 60hz.

 

But for me personally, if i get the 75hz one, i will always have the thought at the back of my head - how would 144hz look like. So i am going to wait for that.

 

And the pixel density of the acer z35 isnt good enough (unless its like 500 eur, then it will be good enough for me).

 

 

Price is really the determining factor for all of these... for example i think the acer xr341cka is way overpriced. Considering the cheapest 60hz 1440p widescreen is 600EUR. Paying almost twice that for the 75hz and gsync upgrade seems like a bit of a ripoff. So even, if 144hz version of it doesn come, i personally can wait and will wait for more competition in this space.

Linus did a fast look at the Asus ROG G Sync 4k 144Hz monitor that coming out later this year. maybe wait for that one? I believe its gonna be 144

[Pickle]

I am personally contemplating buying the XR341CKA, so I could be considered to be biased. That is for you to decide. Having that said, a couple of thoughts come to mind (I see that 75Hz is the biggest issue you have with that monitor, so I will mostly talk about the refresh rate):

 

 

1. Anything less than 1440p on a monitor that size will disappoint you. Pixel density of around 110ppi is generally considered to be the sweet spot (because of text scaling, otherwise higher density is better until you go beyond 400ppi and you don't notice the difference any more).

 

2. The XR341CKA has an IPS panel. Getting high refresh rates on an IPS panel is very tricky. The XB270HU is the only monitor that I know of to achieve 144Hz on an IPS panel. VA panels are also pretty, but that is up to your preference.

 

3. Bandwidth. I am not sure if DisplayPort 1.3 can even support a 3440x1440 resolution at high refresh rates. The DP 1.3 standard support UHD at 60Hz maximum. UHD has 1.7 times the number of pixel of 3440x1440, so the current DP revision could support more than 100Hz. While 100Hz is more than 75Hz, I doubt that Acer will release another variant of this monitor with a higher refresh rate, at least until we see new version of DisplayPort. 

 

4. Reality check. Can your rig drive 3440x1440 at high refresh rates? 3440x1440 has 2.4 times the number of pixel that 1080p has. You would likely have to sacrifice juicy graphical effect to drive that resolution at high frame rates. I expect that gaming at that resolution will tank your frame rate, which is exactly where G-sync shines. If your GPU is pushing fps above your monitor refresh rate, G-sync works the same as V-sync. G-sync is there to help you when dip below your monitor refresh rate.

 

My verdict would be, go ahead with the XR431CKA if you have money to spare. The only reason to wait would be hopes of a price drop. However, at the moment there is only 1 other monitor that competes with this ones, that being the Asus ROG 34 but we don't have a release date for it yet. So, I don't expect a price drop any time soon.

 

Finally, you're right to worry about something better right around the corner, and this display is truly very expensive. However, there is no such thing as future-proof when it comes to computer tech. There will always be something better, and so there will never be a "good time" to invest into hardware.

[Metro]

You will be waiting a long time for a 3440x1440p 144hz monitor Gsync, it will need to be on a DP 1.3, which will be Pascal or Volta, so you got another 2 years for high end Pascal or 4 years for high end Volta for it.

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[PumaXCS]

Already on sale plus a gift card? Its already dropped in price by $300?

[Guest Strangerbob]

Already on sale plus a gift card? Its already dropped in price by $300?

 

Dont you know how stores operate?

 

The "discount" price IS the original uncut MSRP.

And the crossed out price is something the vendor pulled out of his ass.

[PumaXCS]

They wouldn't discount it from the original price it launched at if it was selling decent. Its been out for like two weeks and already at its discount price and promo incentive. @