Intel Skylake launch day leaked!

[NumLock21]

LTT's favorite news source has manged to dig up some info on the launch on the upcoming Intel Skylake processors. The launch dates was leaked by a Chinese website, showing them cpus will be here around September. During launch there will be the unlock Core i5 and Core i7, along with the reset of the Core i5 and Core i7 line up, with TDP ranging from 65w down to 35w. Both unlock cpus will run at 95w TDP. All of them will run on DDR4.

So far no info on them Skylake Core i3 or Pentium's yet.

 

 

 

[SkywardKkalox]

Yay!

[KirbyTech]

If that is the case I really hope DDR4 will drop in price.

[qwertywarrior]

If that is the case I really hope DDR4 will drop in price.

 

the Skylake microarchitecture is expected to remain backward compatible by interoperating with both types of memory. Accompanying the microarchitecture's support for both memory standards, a new SO-DIMM type capable of carrying either DDR3 or DDR4 memory chips, called UniDIMM, was also announced.

[Trik'Stari]

[Embattled]

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Well its the good old wccf shotgun, just sprays out anything they can conjure up and they sometimes hit something.

[xeromynd]

I can't say I understand how UniDimm is a +

 

Does it have a pinout and the two little notches so it will fit DDR3 sockets and DDR4 sockets?

If it doesn't, clearly it only fits into either a DDR3 or DDR4 socket (or a new one entirely), not both, which doesn't help for backwards compatibility.

 

I guess it really only benefit looking forward?

 

/am confused

[MageTank]

I can't say I understand how UniDimm is a +

 

Does it have a pinout and the two little notches so it will fit DDR3 sockets and DDR4 sockets?

If it doesn't, clearly it only fits into either a DDR3 or DDR4 socket (or a new one entirely), not both, which doesn't help for backwards compatibility.

 

I guess it really only benefit looking forward?

 

/am confused

 

Unidimm is basically a custom SO-DIMM module designed to handle DDR3 and DDR4 memory. Skylakes IMC can support both DDR3 and DDR4, so they decided to make a new standard allowing people to use either/or, in the same slot. Problem is, current standard DDR3 and DDR4 SO-DIMMS are notched differently and will not work. I personally think it won't really matter either way, DDR4 has been shown to be dropping recently. We will just have to see how it works out once its launched.

[Imakuni]

I can't say I understand how UniDimm is a +

 

Does it have a pinout and the two little notches so it will fit DDR3 sockets and DDR4 sockets?

If it doesn't, clearly it only fits into either a DDR3 or DDR4 socket (or a new one entirely), not both, which doesn't help for backwards compatibility.

 

I guess it really only benefit looking forward?

 

/am confused

While I don't know if that's the actual layout, it's easy enough to imagine something like this:

 

 

You can configure the eletrical wiring to only allow one of the red parts to work at a time. Or, you could just make a mobo with 4 slots, 2 for DDR4 and 2 for DDR3, if the manufacturer sees worthy (99% sure that it isn't, but still....).

[Megahurt]

My guess is DDR4 for desktop and DDR3L for laptops, as there are are no DDR4 modules on the mobile side that I'm aware of.

[Bojamijams]

What about the Z170 chipset?  Don't we need that for Skylake? 

[NumLock21]

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Do you have a dedicated macro key just for that pic?

[Trik'Stari]

Do you have a dedicated macro key just for that pic?

Nope. Just google.

 

funnily enough google gets it from the LTT forums thanks to @Askew

[SurvivorNVL]

I can wait for September.  I really hope there're some badass Z170 boards.

[DildorTheDecent]

Or, you could just make a mobo with 4 slots, 2 for DDR4 and 2 for DDR3, if the manufacturer sees worthy (99% sure that it isn't, but still....).

You that's been done in the past right? during the DDR3 takeover, some LGA775 boards had DDR2 and DDR3 slots. 

 

Intel would love to do that again i think. 

[Commander Llama]

Surely there must be some way to block a post from going through if WCCF is involved...

 

But uh yeah I'm super stoked for Skylake!  I hope it gets put into notebooks around the end of the year, because I'm notebook shopping for Dec 2015!

[PlayModeOn]

My guess is DDR4 for desktop and DDR3L for laptops, as there are are no DDR4 modules on the mobile side that I'm aware of.

You can buy DDR3L for desktop.

[bcredeur97]

hopefully DDR4 prices come down or im not getting anyone a skylake system

[Megahurt]

You can buy DDR3L for desktop.

Yes, but I doubt they would make desktop boards with lower performance ram, especially since a socket usually spans across 2 generations, so ~ 3 years.

[d1screet]

But then when is the release date for the desktop Broadwell CPU's?

[Aniallation]

This post could be better tbh, but cool nonetheless

[PlayModeOn]

Yes, but I doubt they would make desktop boards with lower performance ram, especially since a socket usually spans across 2 generations, so ~ 3 years.

DDR4 has high latency, but DDR3L has relatively lower latency so people can choose between the two. So I wouldn't say DDR3L is a "lower performance ram" since the latency AND cost difference between DDR3 and DDR4 right now is huge. I heard Z170 chipset supports both DDR3L and DDR4 physically, so you can upgrade from DDR3L to DDR4 any time you want.

[FlanK3r]

My guess is DDR4 for desktop and DDR3L for laptops, as there are are no DDR4 modules on the mobile side that I'm aware of.

 

exactly right

[Megahurt]

DDR4 has high latency, but DDR3L has relatively lower latency so people can choose between the two. So I wouldn't say DDR3L is a "lower performance ram" since the latency AND cost difference between DDR3 and DDR4 right now is huge. I heard Z170 chipset supports both DDR3L and DDR4 physically, so you can upgrade from DDR3L to DDR4 any time you want.

The cost difference isn't that big if you look at entry level module and will likely go down with the launch of skylake. Even if the the chipsets supports it, and since the memory controller is on the cpu, the chipset doesn't have to do anything special to support it, I don't expect motherboard manufacturers to put both types on the motherboard, as you most likely won't be able to mix match them, you'd end up with half of the available slots in both cases. So in short, possible yes, plausible, not so much.

[Juuldebuul]

Wait so if Skylake is comming in september, what the hell happened to Broadwell?