Jump to content

Nvidia re-blocked Overclocking silently in the latest drivers for the 900M series graphics card

GoodBytes

Nvidia has silently re-blocked overclocking of the mobile GeForce 900M series graphics card.

Nvidia previously has done it, claiming you were not supposed to overclocked the GPU in the first place, and it was a bug initially that allowed too. With high pressure, the company took a step back and re-enabled it. But now with the latest drivers, it's blocked again.

 

NVIDIA's driver team is at it again. The company drew outrage from the PC enthusiast community, for developing drivers that prevent GPU overclocking on its GeForce GTX 900M series notebook GPUs, in February 2015, with the introduction of its GeForce 347.29 WHQL drivers, blaming it on a "bug" that allowed overclocking on previous drivers. When called-out and under pressure from the community, it re-enabled overclocking on these chips, with the following GeForce 347.88 drivers, with an equally lame quasi-apology. Hoping that nobody would notice, the company seems to have reinstated the overclocking block, or "clock-block" as the community is calling it; with its R350 and R352 drivers, such as the GeForce 352.86.

Here are the excuses that Nvidia is saying, which are contradictory.

86C.jpg

86b.jpg

Source: http://www.techpowerup.com/212769/nvidia-back-to-dirty-tricks-with-gtx-900m-series-overclocking.html

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

Oh god, hate inbound.

 

 

But I mean, this is good but at the same time no, because people who know what they do should like be allowed to. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

inb4 "Nvidia lied" comments.

suddenly if laptop that had nvidia mobile graphics broke, people would have blamed nvidia for the same thing they were trying to prevent from happening, if you are seriously ditching nvidia because they disabled a overclocking feature on a LAPTOP for all the reasons, then you are not doing it right. 

 

Spoiler
Spoiler

AMD 5000 Series Ryzen 7 5800X| MSI MAG X570 Tomahawk WiFi | G.SKILL Trident Z RGB 32GB (2 * 16GB) DDR4 3200MHz CL16-18-18-38 | Asus GeForce GTX 3080Ti STRIX | SAMSUNG 980 PRO 500GB PCIe NVMe Gen4 SSD M.2 + Samsung 970 EVO Plus 1TB PCIe NVMe M.2 (2280) Gen3 | Cooler Master V850 Gold V2 Modular | Corsair iCUE H115i RGB Pro XT | Cooler Master Box MB511 | ASUS TUF Gaming VG259Q Gaming Monitor 144Hz, 1ms, IPS, G-Sync | Logitech G 304 Lightspeed | Logitech G213 Gaming Keyboard |

PCPartPicker 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

NVIDIA LIED

 

Personally, from a business point of view I can see why probably causes a lot of user error initiated warranty claims. From an enthusiast point of view, it sucks. If you buy your hardware it should be up to you what you do with it. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

Why would you OC a laptop? They run hot as hell anyway.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

i mean, if you OC your mobile gpu it's pretty much set to fail but who wants to should be able to. Nvidia are such dickheads over the last couple... years actually...

Next step, AMD, whooo.

Gaming HTPC:

R5 5600X - Cryorig C7 - Asus ROG B350-i - EVGA RTX2060KO - 16gb G.Skill Ripjaws V 3333mhz - Corsair SF450 - 500gb 960 EVO - LianLi TU100B


Desktop PC:
R9 3900X - Peerless Assassin 120 SE - Asus Prime X570 Pro - Powercolor 7900XT - 32gb LPX 3200mhz - Corsair SF750 Platinum - 1TB WD SN850X - CoolerMaster NR200 White - Gigabyte M27Q-SA - Corsair K70 Rapidfire - Logitech MX518 Legendary - HyperXCloud Alpha wireless


Boss-NAS [Build Log]:
R5 2400G - Noctua NH-D14 - Asus Prime X370-Pro - 16gb G.Skill Aegis 3000mhz - Seasonic Focus Platinum 550W - Fractal Design R5 - 
250gb 970 Evo (OS) - 2x500gb 860 Evo (Raid0) - 6x4TB WD Red (RaidZ2)

Synology-NAS:
DS920+
2x4TB Ironwolf - 1x18TB Seagate Exos X20

 

Audio Gear:

Hifiman HE-400i - Kennerton Magister - Beyerdynamic DT880 250Ohm - AKG K7XX - Fostex TH-X00 - O2 Amp/DAC Combo - 
Klipsch RP280F - Klipsch RP160M - Klipsch RP440C - Yamaha RX-V479

 

Reviews and Stuff:

GTX 780 DCU2 // 8600GTS // Hifiman HE-400i // Kennerton Magister
Folding all the Proteins! // Boincerino

Useful Links:
Do you need an AMP/DAC? // Recommended Audio Gear // PSU Tier List 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

Oh god. Wtf is wrong with you nvidia? At least stick with your decisions. Don't backpedal so much.

Wishing leads to ambition and ambition leads to motivation and motivation leads to me building an illegal rocket ship in my backyard.

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

Why would you OC a laptop? They run hot as hell anyway.

my laptops gpu runs at like 90 C under load lol, 730M
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

Why would you OC a laptop? They run hot as hell anyway.

not all of them do, especially models with 900m GPU's.

"The of and to a in is I that it for you was with on as have but be they"

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

Are people pissed about as a matter of principle?

Or do you guys seriously overclock laptops?

oh trust me, people who are mad at this are the people not necessarily the people own a laptop or own anything nvidia, people on the internet get mad at things they don't even know was the problem in the first place.

 

Spoiler
Spoiler

AMD 5000 Series Ryzen 7 5800X| MSI MAG X570 Tomahawk WiFi | G.SKILL Trident Z RGB 32GB (2 * 16GB) DDR4 3200MHz CL16-18-18-38 | Asus GeForce GTX 3080Ti STRIX | SAMSUNG 980 PRO 500GB PCIe NVMe Gen4 SSD M.2 + Samsung 970 EVO Plus 1TB PCIe NVMe M.2 (2280) Gen3 | Cooler Master V850 Gold V2 Modular | Corsair iCUE H115i RGB Pro XT | Cooler Master Box MB511 | ASUS TUF Gaming VG259Q Gaming Monitor 144Hz, 1ms, IPS, G-Sync | Logitech G 304 Lightspeed | Logitech G213 Gaming Keyboard |

PCPartPicker 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

I'll say the same thing I said before - laptops (all those except chunky bastards with MXM slots) have very tight tolerances for heat and thermal throttling. OC'ing a gPU in such constrained environments is asking for trouble. 

 

You break it, you send it back to the OEM, they go and complain to Nvidia that their chips failed. It a lose lose for everyone. 

 

I overclocked my mobile chip before. I also stopped. If I OC a GPU on my desktop and I break it, no big deal. I get it replaced and my system isn't ruined. 

 

I break a soldered on chip that needs basically a brand new motherboard? That truly leaves me without my hardware? Yea, some people might think its worth a couple of FPS but I don't, so I don't get upset when I can't do it. All the power to Nvidia (and AMD) for not allowing these, they have very good reasons. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

Are people pissed about it just as a matter of principle?

Or do you guys seriously overclock laptops?

 

I've done it  :ph34r:  Free performance. But that was a 6970m.

 

OT: Man not again.... 

i5 2400 | ASUS RTX 4090 TUF OC | Seasonic 1200W Prime Gold | WD Green 120gb | WD Blue 1tb | some ram | a random case

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

Why would you OC a laptop? They run hot as hell anyway.

The newer Nvidia chips run surprisingly cool I clocked my 750m to almost 760m performance without hitting over 80c during stress which is quite good for a laptop.





 
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

eh. I don't really care. laptops are not worth overclocking. they have very poor heat distribution (if you don't have some kind of bulky j751)   and tbh. why would I try to oc my 970m on my gs70 xD

~New~  BoomBerryPi project !  ~New~


new build log : http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/533392-build-log-the-scrap-simulator-x/?p=7078757 (5 screen flight sim for 620$ CAD)LTT Web Challenge is back ! go here  :  http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/448184-ltt-web-challenge-3-v21/#entry601004

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

Who the hell overclocks a laptop? Why does anyone care?

 

At this point, Nvidia is just trolling people for the fun of it.

Ketchup is better than mustard.

GUI is better than Command Line Interface.

Dubs are better than subs

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

inb4 "Nvidia lied" comments.

suddenly if laptop that had nvidia mobile graphics broke, people would have blamed nvidia for the same thing they were trying to prevent from happening, if you are seriously ditching nvidia because they disabled a overclocking feature on a LAPTOP for all the reasons, then you are not doing it right. 

 

 

NVIDIA LIED

 

Personally, from a business point of view I can see why probably causes a lot of user error initiated warranty claims. From an enthusiast point of view, it sucks. If you buy your hardware it should be up to you what you do with it. 

litteraly one after the other

~New~  BoomBerryPi project !  ~New~


new build log : http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/533392-build-log-the-scrap-simulator-x/?p=7078757 (5 screen flight sim for 620$ CAD)LTT Web Challenge is back ! go here  :  http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/448184-ltt-web-challenge-3-v21/#entry601004

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

litteraly one after the other

i believe he was being sarcastic. 

 

Spoiler
Spoiler

AMD 5000 Series Ryzen 7 5800X| MSI MAG X570 Tomahawk WiFi | G.SKILL Trident Z RGB 32GB (2 * 16GB) DDR4 3200MHz CL16-18-18-38 | Asus GeForce GTX 3080Ti STRIX | SAMSUNG 980 PRO 500GB PCIe NVMe Gen4 SSD M.2 + Samsung 970 EVO Plus 1TB PCIe NVMe M.2 (2280) Gen3 | Cooler Master V850 Gold V2 Modular | Corsair iCUE H115i RGB Pro XT | Cooler Master Box MB511 | ASUS TUF Gaming VG259Q Gaming Monitor 144Hz, 1ms, IPS, G-Sync | Logitech G 304 Lightspeed | Logitech G213 Gaming Keyboard |

PCPartPicker 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

First post: "Enabling users to overclock was just an unintentional bug".

Second post: "We will AGAIN be ENABLING overclocking".

Really NVIDIA? If you're gonna lie, at least have the decency to do it right...

MacBook Pro 15' 2018 (Pretty much the only system I use)

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

Still trying to understand why someone would overclock a mobile GPU. Even if it has enough thermal limits, overclocking also means more power consumption, which does matter with battery devices

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

once again, people who want to overclock a notebook that badly should have to program and flash a vBIOS to do it... Its not something the average person should do. 

"If a Lobster is a fish because it moves by jumping, then a kangaroo is a bird" - Admiral Paulo de Castro Moreira da Silva

"There is nothing more difficult than fixing something that isn't all the way broken yet." - Author Unknown

Spoiler

Intel Core i7-3960X @ 4.6 GHz - Asus P9X79WS/IPMI - 12GB DDR3-1600 quad-channel - EVGA GTX 1080ti SC - Fractal Design Define R5 - 500GB Crucial MX200 - NH-D15 - Logitech G710+ - Mionix Naos 7000 - Sennheiser PC350 w/Topping VX-1

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

Still trying to understand why someone would overclock a mobile GPU. Even if it has enough thermal limits, overclocking also means more power consumption, which does matter with battery devices

Not to mention that overclocking a full size desktop GPU doesn't provide that much of a boost (at least it doesn't on my 970 strix at 1400 with stock being 1253) so what difference will it actually make? 3 fps for how much more battery drain and heat output?

 

Just....no.

Ketchup is better than mustard.

GUI is better than Command Line Interface.

Dubs are better than subs

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now

×