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Fractal Design Define S Unboxing

I want this for my next build, but I can't decide on a 420mm+280mm set up, or dual 360mm rads...

 

I would go for only a 360 in the top, any radiator with 140mm fans has to be very slim or it won't fit with the motherboard.

Arby The Raisin Boy ~ Utopia

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I felt the same way too while watching it. Even JTL can do better with a case overview. 

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Really like how you can mount drives behind the motherboard try. Makes a lot of extra room. My Corsair 450D has slots for 2.5" but not he 3.5"

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This is just my theory, but I think the only people mad about this video are the ones looking for a review of this specific case.  I have seen the complaints here and I saw their reply to complaints on last week's WAN show, and I can see both sides to be honest.

 

With all of the more recent, super high quality reviews that were scripted with carefully thought points and shot with very high quality B-roll, people I think have now associated the LTT channel with being able to get extra insight and information compared to what's on the spec sheet and get very clear footage of parts of the product that standard images you turn up online don't show.  So let's say I'm looking for a case and have seen other case reviews from LTT like the Silverstone FT05 review, and lo and behold I hear about this case and search youtube and Linus has a video of it!  Cool, I can get a good comparison between this case and others they've reviewed.  Oh...it's just an unboxing.

 

I actually felt similarly to this when I looked for reviews of the Silverstone FT-03 mini which they did an unboxing for.  Similar style of shooting, but I wanted more info than just initial impressions of taking it out of the box.  Thankfully, they did a full build in one on the NCIX channel so that satiated my quest for detailed info to help me make a buying decision, but the original unboxing did not.

 

Though looking at this from the other side, as someone that wasn't particularly interested in this case myself to begin with and who just enjoys Linus's videos in general, I really liked this unboxing.  I have been watching since well before they started doing their high production, scripted reviews and enjoyed this throw back to the old days of unboxings like this.  It was funny, went over the main parts of the case, and didn't edit out the parts that you would normally think one would edit out which is always fun for me as a viewer.  But again, I wasn't interested in this case to begin with, so it was strictly viewed out of entertainment and education about a new product, not making a purchasing decision.

 

I think LTT is in a dangerous position here, now that they have gained the huge viewership that they hold but having done so by changing their style to high production quality and detailed reviews listing original thoughts and opinions on the products in the videos.  They can't do these types of videos anymore without having people search for the product, find a video with 100k+ views, and watching it thinking it will help their buying decision and therefore getting upset.  I wish I had a recommendation to appease both those who like the older unboxings like myself and those looking for a high quality review that is scripted and admittedly less exciting and entertaining.  There's merit to both types of videos, and if I had to think of a suggestion so that I'm not just rambling on with nothing to offer myself, maybe create another youtube channel dedicated to unboxings and quicker videos like that?  I know they're already spread thin with channel superfun and as fast as possible, but that's the only thing I can think of that will keep people from getting upset that a channel now known for high quality reviews has a quick and dirty unboxing videos on occasion.

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I know a lot of people don't like the unboxings because they are 'unprofessional' but i like to see them every once in a while. Its quite nostalgic!

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to the complainers, this is the type of the video Linus made when he was still working at ncix.  No proper lighting, no actual script, no b-roll.  Just Linus and the camera guy doing unboxings in a room or outside the ncix head office on a bench. IMO, Linus needs to do more unboxings since it's these type of videos that go him to where he is today. (well maybe dont shoot it outside anymore) I miss the good old days when he would just give this thoughts on top of his head as he's unboxing the product. It felt more natural and spontaneous, although I understand sometimes this can appear as unprepared or uninformed.

 

I think Linus should continue doing unboxing videos, and please bring back the Linus-appears-out-of-a-box intro.

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@LinusTech @Slick @nicklmg What knife did linus (or if it's linus reading this, you) use in the video?

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Don't see why everyone dislikes it. I prefer these kinds of videos. I think that's why Scrap Yard wars was so popular. It really showed Linus and Lukes personality and their type of thinking. The wifi upgrade from your trip is also a favorite of mine.

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I would like to see more unboxings for things you guys think are cool but don't necessarily deserve and entire in depth break down (much like you said on the WAN show) but I don't really like how this one in particular was done. I'm not asking for unbox therapy (because if I was I would just subscribe to them) but I would like the videos to be, or at least for them to seem, more professional. I'm not entirely sure what that means yet as the video, sound, and dialogue quality are all up to par, but I think my main compaint was that it was done on the patio. It's almost as if you guys didn't care if it fell off the roof or something like in the April Fools video (although that was obviously staged). Anyway, this was a super long post that I also posted on the YouTube comments and if anyone read until the end I am impressed, but I guess the point is I love you guys, but I didn't love this.

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I've been watch LTT for about 18 months now, watching WAN show for about 8, and been a forum lurker for maybe 6.

 

I think this is an important time for LTT: do they head away from roots and keep striving to improve on what they usually do now? Or do they still make sure they remember where they came from?

 

I enjoyed the nostalgia, but I know others have come to expect more.

 

I think Old-school unboxings are fine, just put a "strong disclaimer" (read - something witty like - "This is old school, and you haters can stay in your new school where you belong" read in Linus rap voice) before the video and make sure people know that it's not just being lazy.

 

Just my thoughts, Lars

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I would go for only a 360 in the top, any radiator with 140mm fans has to be very slim or it won't fit with the motherboard.

 

 

They make 30mm 420 rads (like this), I just don't know if it would be worth the effort to have only 280 as a intake (if I do push/pull, it should compensate the airflow for positive air pressure, but I'm not sure).

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I expected linus to drop the case over the railing.

 

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@LinusTech @Slick @nicklmg What knife did linus (or if it's linus reading this, you) use in the video?

Kershaw Funxion EMT

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Damn you, Linus!!! I waited the whole time for you to drop it, then you troll us at the end!

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I don't like the way Linus handle the case during the review, he needs to check his cis white male privilege, there are children in Africa that would have been more than happy to eat that case, but Linus has to spread the patriarchy, such oppression

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I had one issue and one issue only with the unboxing: location.  Watching him precariously put the case on that railing made me so nervous it was hugely distracting from the video.  If it had simply been on a pick-nick table it would have been fine but that ledge....just no.

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@LinusTech @Slick @nicklmg What knife did linus (or if it's linus reading this, you) use in the video?

Can't remember the name but I think it's from Massdrop.

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Can't remember the name but I think it's from Massdrop.

 

Was this it?

 

Kershaw Funxion EMT

 
Or maybe ask linus senpai for the name of it? :P

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Was this it?

 
 
Or maybe ask linus senpai for the name of it? :P

 

If that's not it it's very close.

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Or maybe ask linus senpai for the name of it? :P

 

 

If that's not it it's very close.

hehe... kershaw knives are easy to distinguish...as opposed to the very often mentioned 'unboxing veteran'; Linus himself stated the little spyderco as 'Bug' or 'Ladybug' - but it seems like nobody ever pays attention to the position of the logo or the back of the handle: its a 'HoneyBee' ^^...

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