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Go for Lenovo, superior build quality and that panel is great.

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I'm gonna say the Lenovo computer. Not sure, couldn't look into anything more in-depth. In class at the moment.

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Lenovo! Better quality, better driver support, better graphics card, better keyboard, better screen.

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Why is everybody neglecting Toshiba's far superior components compared to Lenovo's besides GPU?

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Well for one, the Toshiba doesn't show me many superior components excepting the screen... and even then it doesn't list much info about the screen like refresh rate, colour gamut, etc. It's also a very thin laptop and I'm pretty sure it'll never cool that 4720HQ it has for anything more than light gaming and watching youtube videos.

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Well for one, the Toshiba doesn't show me many superior components excepting the screen... and even then it doesn't list much info about the screen like refresh rate, colour gamut, etc. It's also a very thin laptop and I'm pretty sure it'll never cool that 4720HQ it has for anything more than light gaming and watching youtube videos.

the lenovo has a 4k screen, which is great

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the lenovo has a 4k screen, which is great

It has a 48Hz Panel that isn't even very good. And the 860M can't do anything meaningful at 4K. 

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It has a 48Hz Panel that isn't even very good. And the 860M can't do anything meaningful at 4K. 

you dont have to game at 4k, that can be fo media consumption, and even linus said 48 htz isnt that bad

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you dont have to game at 4k, that can be fo media consumption, and even linus said 48 htz isnt that bad

Yeah, and Linus is also a user who has sensitive ears and hates most gaming-type headsets because they irritate him. There's many other users out there who have some problems even at 60Hz, far less 48Hz.

 

And if you buy a machine with which to do some light gaming and then you need to lower your monitor's default resolution to increase the refresh rate every time you want to game... no.

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Yeah, and Linus is also a user who has sensitive ears and hates most gaming-type headsets because they irritate him. There's many other users out there who have some problems even at 60Hz, far less 48Hz.

 

And if you buy a machine with which to do some light gaming and then you need to lower your monitor's default resolution to increase the refresh rate every time you want to game... no.

i have never heard anyone ever complain about 60hz that is usuall the minimum and is fine but i will agree it depends on the person for 48 hz

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i have never heard anyone ever complain about 60hz that is usuall the minimum and is fine but i will agree it depends on the person for 48 hz

Not a whole lot, but I have run into at least four people who instantly was able to tell if a screen was a 60Hz or if it was higher (75Hz etc) just by looking at it. They were susceptible to the flicker, apparently. This was on LCD screens. 48Hz would have killed them.

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Not a whole lot, but I have run into at least four people who instantly was able to tell if a screen was a 60Hz or if it was higher (75Hz etc) just by looking at it. They were susceptible to the flicker, apparently. This was on LCD screens. 48Hz would have killed them.

i agree that people can tell the difference, but i just havent had people complain that they cant live with 60 hz

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i agree that people can tell the difference, but i just havent had people complain that they cant live with 60 hz

Didn't say that they couldn't live with it, but 48Hz to them would be like suicide.

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This instead of either if you insist on Lenovo. I'm not particularly sure why you are using third party sites to shop for either of those two brands, but it may be worth while to look at the options on the y50 touch because as people have said the 4k monitor isn't particularly useful for gaming.

 

Also as is a major issue with Laptop reviews, most you find on the net are using an extremely particular sub-model of the laptop and are often out of date (both are issues with the review you linked), so as much as I hate to say it, general perceptions of the brand and specs/pictures of a particular model, if you can't get it under your fingers (which is a major issue with lenovo) pre-purchase, are what you will have to focus on.

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Lenovo Y50-70 Laptop - 59440644 - Black: Web Special

 

This instead of either if you insist on Lenovo. I'm not particularly sure why you are using third party sites to shop for either of those two brands, but it may be worth while to look at the options on the y50 touch because as people have said the 4k monitor isn't particularly useful for gaming.

 

Also as is a major issue with Laptop reviews, most you find on the net are using an extremely particular sub-model of the laptop and are often out of date (both are issues with the review you linked), so as much as I hate to say it, general perceptions of the brand and specs/pictures of a particular model, if you can't get it under your fingers (which is a major issue with lenovo) pre-purchase, are what you will have to focus on.

I'm not insisting on Lenovo, I'd rather buy Toshiba from those 2 options.

 

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I'm not insisting on Lenovo, I'd rather buy Toshiba from those 2 options.

 

Sorry I wasn't impinging on you, more so the commentors. That being said Lenovo makes very sturdy laptops with specs that are almost unmatched on a price by price margin. Unless looking for an ultrabook, totes would recommend them.

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That being said Lenovo makes very sturdy laptops with specs that are almost unmatched on a price by price margin.

Not sure about that very sturdy part...

As for their specs, their laptops are not designed to perform at-spec. If you use them under-spec (as the machine is designed) then you will have no problems. Most people use them very under-spec.

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