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So, the build is:

 

i7-4790k

ASUS Sabertooth Z97 Mark S

Kingston Fury White 16GB 1866MHz

1tb 850 EVO SSD

This GPU if there's a block that fits it, which I think a reference block does... https://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=29662

NZXT H440 B/W

EVGA G2 750W PSU

 

Can someone come up with a reasonable loop that has CPU block, GPU block, 360mm Rad, and some pump and res, possibly an all-in-one pump and res (I don't mind), but as long as it would all fit with that build (so front drive cages can possibly be removed for space for pump/res because 1 SSD) and in the H440?

 

Thanks ahead of time.

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Any particular budget ?

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Any particular budget ?

I don't know... maybe $350 Australian? Which is, let me see, about $270 US? Mind you, I might be able to find some components for cheaper in other retailers. Also, a 280 or 240 Rad would probably be fine. Whatever combination or choice.

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I don't know... maybe $350 Australian? Which is, let me see, about $270 US? Mind you, I might be able to find some components for cheaper in other retailers.

Location affects pricing a lot ;

Do you have a preffered seller for watercooling near you ?

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Location affects pricing a lot ;

Do you have a preffered seller for watercooling near you ?

Well, Umart is ideal, but PCCaseGear is alright as well. But I also might have to up the budget a bit...

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Well, Umart is ideal, but PCCaseGear is alright as well. But I also might have to up the budget a bit...

Probably lol

Add 100$ for every big component ( 100 for a rad , 100 for a gpu and 100 for a cpu ) that's as low as I would go .

I'm looking at prices now ( I use the above rule for eu )

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Probably lol

Add 100$ for every big component ( 100 for a rad , 100 for a gpu and 100 for a cpu ) that's as low as I would go .

I'm looking at prices now ( I use the above rule for eu )

I also just realised that PLE Computers has pretty good prices and affordable shipping to me.

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Here are a few pieces : 

Pump : you can go cheaper http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=207_160_296&products_id=29101

Pump is a combo to save $$ on fittings

 

Single 360mm rad http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=207_160_297_922&products_id=28961

Your case comes with 3 120mm fans , you can use them with this .

 

CPU block http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=207_160_878_879&products_id=28925

You can go cheaper , but this is the newest from EK

 

GPU : http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=207_160_878_880&products_id=29153

Cheapest , you said stock pcb waterblocks would work .

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Here are a few pieces : 

Pump : you can go cheaper http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=207_160_296&products_id=29101

Pump is a combo to save $$ on fittings

 

Single 360mm rad http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=207_160_297_922&products_id=28961

Your case comes with 3 120mm fans , you can use them with this .

 

CPU block http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=207_160_878_879&products_id=28925

You can go cheaper , but this is the newest from EK

 

GPU : http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=207_160_878_880&products_id=29153

Cheapest , you said stock pcb waterblocks would work .

Wow, thanks for that.

 

I also found these.

Pump/Res: https://www.ple.com.au/ViewItem.aspx?InventoryItemId=615988

GPU: https://www.ple.com.au/ViewItem.aspx?InventoryItemId=616463 

CPU: https://www.ple.com.au/ViewItem.aspx?InventoryItemId=616117

Rad: https://www.ple.com.au/ViewItem.aspx?InventoryItemId=613475

 

And I believe that they have cheaper shipping. They all ship for $19 AU to me combined! But what's your opinion on them?

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What fittings and tubing would I then use? I've got no idea about that kind of stuff...

 

BTW, budget upgraded to $520 AU to include everything, fittings, tubing and all.

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- I don't know if that pump / res combo comes with a pump , it looks like just a top and a res ( although the descriptions hints at a pump ) 

- I would get this cpu block ( it's black ) https://www.ple.com.au/ViewItem.aspx?InventoryItemId=616126

 

I would get 10/16 tubing and fittings , it's thicker so that it doesn't crumple ( you can change this if you want ) .

 

Here is an example of tubing and fittings , the size is 10/16 mm or ID 3/8" OD 5/8" 

 

https://www.ple.com.au/ViewItem.aspx?InventoryItemId=612940

 

https://www.ple.com.au/ViewItem.aspx?InventoryItemId=614523

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What fittings and tubing would I then use? I've got no idea about that kind of stuff...

 

BTW, budget upgraded to $520 AU to include everything, fittings, tubing and all.

EK has an official site http://www.ekwb.com/shop/

Check shipping to your area ; you will have more options with EK  ( it's worth it unless shipping is 50+$)

 

http://www.ekwb.com/partners/

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- I don't know if that pump / res combo comes with a pump , it looks like just a top and a res ( although the descriptions hints at a pump ) 

- I would get this cpu block ( it's black ) https://www.ple.com.au/ViewItem.aspx?InventoryItemId=616126

 

I would get 10/16 tubing and fittings , it's thicker so that it doesn't crumple ( you can change this if you want ) .

 

Here is an example of tubing and fittings , the size is 10/16 mm or ID 3/8" OD 5/8" 

 

https://www.ple.com.au/ViewItem.aspx?InventoryItemId=612940

 

https://www.ple.com.au/ViewItem.aspx?InventoryItemId=614523

Ah yes, I just realised that you are right about the pump/res, it's just a res top. Well, I might go with your pump/res combo from PCCaseGear then.

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Yeah, shipping... why so expensive! It is indeed $50 plus... why did I have to live in Australia!

So you need :

-rad

-pump/res combo

-gpu block

-cpu block

-liquid

-tubing

-fittings

 

You need 8 fittings,  I would get 9 and a cap to make a drain port .

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So you need :

-rad

-pump/res combo

-gpu block

-cpu block

-liquid

-tubing

-fittings

 

You need 8 fittings,  I would get 9 and a cap to make a drain port .

Thanks for doing the math on the fittings. You've been really helpful.

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Took me a while to look over the whole thread... all these retailers..

so I would not recommend PE360 from EK.  
You can find thinner and lower fpi rad to place at front.

The airflow restricted in H440 is not going to be a major problem for your loop, but it definitely has its impact.
The lower fpi the better imo.  Also, in order to mount a Res/pump combo, I would highly recommend thinner rads which lowest could be 30mm thick. That I found.
Alphacool ST30 360mm would be my choice.
The less than 10mm difference may seem useless, but in my experience with PE360 and standard 25mm thick fan, it actually needs a less than 5mm in order to fit my res/pump combo with the stand from BP to the desired place without running into the psu cover.

If you are going to use a ddc, instead of a D5, I guess it won't matter.  Keep in mind H440 is a silent case, not to let you overclock the hell out of your system even if you watercool.

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Took me a while to look over the whole thread... all these retailers..

so I would not recommend PE360 from EK.  

You can find thinner and lower fpi rad to place at front.

The airflow restricted in H440 is not going to be a major problem for your loop, but it definitely has its impact.

The lower fpi the better imo.  Also, in order to mount a Res/pump combo, I would highly recommend thinner rads which lowest could be 30mm thick. That I found.

Alphacool ST30 360mm would be my choice.

The less than 10mm difference may seem useless, but in my experience with PE360 and standard 25mm thick fan, it actually needs a less than 5mm in order to fit my res/pump combo with the stand from BP to the desired place without running into the psu cover.

If you are going to use a ddc, instead of a D5, I guess it won't matter.  Keep in mind H440 is a silent case, not to let you overclock the hell out of your system even if you watercool.

I was thinking he was going to get 1 rad ( to save $$ on rad and fans ) and put it at the top .

Also , you can have a silent case while OC'ing , I have my 5820k oc'd , my R9 290's OC'd , and everything is (was) water cooled .

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Is this tubing and these fittings compatible?

http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=21946

http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=30787

 

And sorry, could you please link me to a cap? I'mma bit of a noob.

 

 

Yes , those are compatible, but please note that that is very large tubing .

Take 3/4 of an inch , that is the size of the tube , and immagine that .

I ( personally ) preffer 10/16, but if you go 13/19 ( 1/2 , 3/4 ) know that everything has to match .

Also know that larger tubing makes no difference in temps or anything else .

 

To make a drain :

http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=207_160_300_1325&products_id=22877

http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=207_160_300_1325&products_id=11731

 

The stop goes into the extender , the extender comes out of your res / lowest point .

The drain is the last thing you need to think about ( it changes depending on everything else ) .

 

So have you gotten all the pieces in mind ?

 

Could you make a drawing of the loop ( using paint or other , even if it's not pretty ) ?

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I was thinking he was going to get 1 rad ( to save $$ on rad and fans ) and put it at the top .

Also , you can have a silent case while OC'ing , I have my 5820k oc'd , my R9 290's OC'd , and everything is (was) water cooled .

Thank you for clearing it for me, I wasnt paying attention, but it's actually the same thing because the top has a cover as well as the front.

I didnt say it cant have it oc+silent, i said it is going to be an impact... if you take off the front or top panel of the H440, you should be seeing temperature dropping..  I am saying this base on my own experience.  This is a video for the reference.

Its that H440 top&front panel(whichever one) will hinder your airflow in.  Of course, this is a case by case situation since it really depends on your tdp.

To over come this, again he doesn't have to if he's comfortable with the temps he got.  He can add more fans in p/p or higher speed fans, but that would destroy the silence part of the case design.

Therefore, I am suggesting to get a low fpi, thin rad at wherever he wants to mount.  A 4790k+980 isnt hot by any standard

One thing noted, I think if he places a PE360 on top will be fine since Z97 Sabertooth doesnt have a big mosfet heatsink, but the OP really needs to make sure of that.

 

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Thank you for clearing it for me, I wasnt paying attention, but it's actually the same thing because the top has a cover as well as the front.

I didnt say it cant have it oc+silent, i said it is going to be an impact... if you take off the front or top panel of the H440, you should be seeing temperature dropping..  I am saying this base on my own experience.  This is a video for the reference.

Its that H440 top&front panel(whichever one) will hinder your airflow in.  Of course, this is a case by case situation since it really depends on your tdp.

To over come this, again he doesn't have to if he's comfortable with the temps he got.  He can add more fans in p/p or higher speed fans, but that would destroy the silence part of the case design.

Therefore, I am suggesting to get a low fpi, thin rad at wherever he wants to mount.  A 4790k+980 isnt hot by any standard

One thing noted, I think if he places a PE360 on top will be fine since Z97 Sabertooth doesnt have a big mosfet heatsink, but the OP really needs to make sure of that.

 

When placing the rad on top , there is much less performance than removing the front cover ( the front cover blocks a lot)

I tested with and W/o the top cover , with a 240mm rad , the difference was 1.5°c on the cpu, but at the front of the case it was 5°c + and the fans could spin slower .

 

As you said , a i7+980 is about ~300-400w to dissipate , that could be done by a 280mm rad, but I think that 360mm should be fine and quiet enough ( you will probably hear coil whine or pump noise over the fans ) 

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This might work? And it's a pretty shoddy drawing. Should the water go that way, or the other?

 

And here is a parts list.

CPU Block: https://www.ple.com.au/ViewItem.aspx?InventoryItemId=616117

GPU Block: https://www.ple.com.au/ViewItem.aspx?InventoryItemId=616463

GPU Block Backplate: https://www.ple.com.au/ViewItem.aspx?InventoryItemId=616465

Coolant: http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=30941&cPath=301

Tubing: http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=21946

Fittings: http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=30787

Pump/Res: http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=29628

Rad: https://www.umart.com.au/umart1/pro/Products-details.phtml?id=10&bid=2&id2=258&sid=226752

Drain things: 

http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=207_160_300_1325&products_id=22877

http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=207_160_300_1325&products_id=11731

 

I think that that's it? I know that the coolant isn't currently in stock, but I'm hoping that it will be. Otherwise I can just go with the EK premix. I still don't know when I'm going to build this, I'm running kind of low on funds.

 

I also know that the tubing size doesn't make a performance difference, it just seemed more common and it went with the fittings I wanted as well.

 

Well then, what do you think?

 

 

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This might work? And it's a pretty shoddy drawing. Should the water go that way, or the other?

 

And here is a parts list.

CPU Block: https://www.ple.com.au/ViewItem.aspx?InventoryItemId=616117

GPU Block: https://www.ple.com.au/ViewItem.aspx?InventoryItemId=616463

GPU Block Backplate: https://www.ple.com.au/ViewItem.aspx?InventoryItemId=616465

Coolant: http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=30941&cPath=301

Tubing: http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=21946

Fittings: http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=30787

Pump/Res: http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=29628

Rad: https://www.umart.com.au/umart1/pro/Products-details.phtml?id=10&bid=2&id2=258&sid=226752

Drain things: 

http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=207_160_300_1325&products_id=22877

http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=207_160_300_1325&products_id=11731

 

I think that that's it? I know that the coolant isn't currently in stock, but I'm hoping that it will be. Otherwise I can just go with the EK premix. I still don't know when I'm going to build this, I'm running kind of low on funds.

 

I also know that the tubing size doesn't make a performance difference, it just seemed more common and it went with the fittings I wanted as well.

 

Well then, what do you think?

Ok , re-looking at the loop , the drain will come out of the pump , with the current set-up you will need to tip the case on the side and use the extension to poor into a bucket .

 

Except for that , I would get more coolant just in case ;

The rad is 4 cm , so I would put a fan in the top of the case and see if you have ~4cm extra .

 

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