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Outdated on OC-ing, need h3lp /Phenom II 945 + Asus M5A97 R2.0 Evo + Freezer64

Hi guys,

 

I've been running my Phenom II 945 @ 3,6 GHz (fsb 240, moderately stable; 12+ hours of Prime + 6+ hours OCCT Linpack with no errors) on my previous motherboard (Asrock A770DE+) with the voltage of 1.4500V and the memory working at 800 MHz (DDR2; set to 667 and by raising the fsb it got increased to its default 800 MHz when using fsb 240), the NorthBridge at 1.2500V and I think 2160 MHz or something like that, maybe 2280 (HT was set to 1920).

 

I upgraded to a new Asus M5A97 R2.0 Evo and Kingston HyperX Fury 2x4GB ddr3 1866MHz.

Now I have a problem, can't get my CPU to work on 3,6 GHz stable and even have lower performance on the same clocks than before (in Cinebench R15 and 3DMark 2013).

 

This new UEFI "bios" and the board have to many new options with which I'm not that familliar.

Tried using this as a refference: http://www.overclock.net/t/1348623/amd-bulldozer-and-piledriver-overclocking-guide-asus-motherboard

Still no luck. The board should be able to handle the fsb with no problems.

 

I'll have to play arround with the memory speeds, it may be that the integrated memory controler (IMC) on the CPU can't handle 1600MHz ram when overclocked although it has no problems running 1600MHz on the default clock of 3,0 GHz (I know it's a ddr3 800/1066/1333 IMU, but on stock it handles 1600 too).

 

Any ideas on what I'm possibly doing wrong? Suggestions?

 

I may have to go this step by step to find the max of each component (cpu, ram, mbo, ...) but I'm confused with the many new settings/options (like different kinds of voltages; the previous board had ony few - one for the CPU, one for the RAM, one for the NB -> this new one has multiple CPU, NB etc...).

What settings should I try? 

 

Thanks.

 

M.S.C.E. (M.Sc. Computer Engineering), Senior IT advisor in a hospital, 30 years of gaming, 20 years of computer enthusiasm, Geek, Trekkie, anime fan

  • Main PC: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D - EK AIO 360 D-RGB - Arctic Cooling MX-4 - Asus Prime X570-P - 4x8GB DDR4 3200 HyperX Fury CL16 - Sapphire AMD Radeon 6950XT Nitro+ - 1TB Kingston Fury Renegade - 2TB Kingston Fury Renegade - 512GB ADATA SU800 - 960GB Kingston A400 - Seasonic PX-850 850W  - custom black ATX and EPS cables - Fractal Design Define R5 Blackout - Windows 11 x64 23H2 - 3 Arctic Cooling P14 PWM PST - 5 Arctic Cooling P12 PWM PST
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  • Laptop: Acer E5–575G-386R 15.6" 1080p (i3 6100U + 12GB DDR4 (4GB+8GB) + GeForce 940MX + 256GB nVME) Win 10 Pro x64 22H2 - Logitech G305 + AAA Lithium battery
  • Networking: Asus TUF Gaming AX6000 - Arcadyan ISP router - 35/7 Mbps vDSL
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No h3lp here?

M.S.C.E. (M.Sc. Computer Engineering), Senior IT advisor in a hospital, 30 years of gaming, 20 years of computer enthusiasm, Geek, Trekkie, anime fan

  • Main PC: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D - EK AIO 360 D-RGB - Arctic Cooling MX-4 - Asus Prime X570-P - 4x8GB DDR4 3200 HyperX Fury CL16 - Sapphire AMD Radeon 6950XT Nitro+ - 1TB Kingston Fury Renegade - 2TB Kingston Fury Renegade - 512GB ADATA SU800 - 960GB Kingston A400 - Seasonic PX-850 850W  - custom black ATX and EPS cables - Fractal Design Define R5 Blackout - Windows 11 x64 23H2 - 3 Arctic Cooling P14 PWM PST - 5 Arctic Cooling P12 PWM PST
  • Peripherals: LG 32GK650F - Philips 226VL - Logitech G Pro X Superlight with Tiger Ice - HyperX Alloy Origins Core (TKL) - EndGame Gear MPC890 - Genius HF 1250B - Akliam PD4 - Sennheiser HD 560s - Simgot EM6L - Truthear Zero - QKZ x HBB - 7Hz Salnotes Zero - Logitech C270 - Behringer PS400 - BM700  - Colormunki Smile - Speedlink Torid - Jysk Stenderup - LG 24x External DVD writer - Konig smart card reader
  • Laptop: Acer E5–575G-386R 15.6" 1080p (i3 6100U + 12GB DDR4 (4GB+8GB) + GeForce 940MX + 256GB nVME) Win 10 Pro x64 22H2 - Logitech G305 + AAA Lithium battery
  • Networking: Asus TUF Gaming AX6000 - Arcadyan ISP router - 35/7 Mbps vDSL
  • TV and gadgets: TCL 50EP680 50" 4K LED + Sharp HT-SB100 75W RMS soundbar - Samsung Galaxy Tab A8 10.1" - OnePlus 9 256GB - Olymous Cameda C-160 - GameBoy Color 
  • Streaming/Server/Storage PC: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 - LC-Power LC-CC-120 - MSI B450 Tomahawk Max - 2x4GB ADATA 2666 DDR4 - 120GB Kingston V300 - Toshiba DT01ACA100 1TB - Toshiba DT01ACA200 2TB - 2x WD Green 2TB - Sapphire Pulse AMD Radeon R9 380X - 550W EVGA G3 SuperNova - Chieftec Giga DF-01B - Logitech G710+ - Roccat Kone Pure Military Desert strike - Logitech S-220
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u should be overclocking via multiplier to save urself alot of headache 

phenoms overclock differently than bulldozer lol dont use that guide

and on my phenom 955 1.45 was good enough to hit 4ghz 

and u should lock all your settings in manually and turn off all power saving options

 

 

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u should be overclocking via multiplier to save urself alot of headache 

phenoms overclock differently than bulldozer lol dont use that guide

and on my phenom 955 1.45 was good enough to hit 4ghz 

and u should lock all your settings in manually and turn off all power saving options

 

The 945 is not a BE part, the multiplier is locked, so there is no possibility to overclock by the multiplier.

Also, the unlocking to an Engineering sample does not work on this baord, so there is no way to unlock the multi.

That leaves FSB overclocking only.

 

Also, that "guide" I mentioned is not an overclock guide but a guide for what a setting does and what it's recommended to set it to when overclocking (not matter what CPU is beeing overclocked). I mean I'm not using it as a guide for overclocking - just as a guide for the new settings I'm unfamilliar with (like the Digi+ settings).

 

I'm not new to overclocking, overclocking since the era of Pentium III and AMD K10; had some great overclocks on Barton core Athlon XP 2500+, Pentium 4, Celerons, Core 2 Duo CPU-s, Phenom II x2 and X4... even had an Phenom II 550BE unlocked to an X3 B50, one of the first unlockers in the country... It's just that I did not have the pleasure to overclock on anything newer than now 5-6 year old motherboards...

M.S.C.E. (M.Sc. Computer Engineering), Senior IT advisor in a hospital, 30 years of gaming, 20 years of computer enthusiasm, Geek, Trekkie, anime fan

  • Main PC: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D - EK AIO 360 D-RGB - Arctic Cooling MX-4 - Asus Prime X570-P - 4x8GB DDR4 3200 HyperX Fury CL16 - Sapphire AMD Radeon 6950XT Nitro+ - 1TB Kingston Fury Renegade - 2TB Kingston Fury Renegade - 512GB ADATA SU800 - 960GB Kingston A400 - Seasonic PX-850 850W  - custom black ATX and EPS cables - Fractal Design Define R5 Blackout - Windows 11 x64 23H2 - 3 Arctic Cooling P14 PWM PST - 5 Arctic Cooling P12 PWM PST
  • Peripherals: LG 32GK650F - Philips 226VL - Logitech G Pro X Superlight with Tiger Ice - HyperX Alloy Origins Core (TKL) - EndGame Gear MPC890 - Genius HF 1250B - Akliam PD4 - Sennheiser HD 560s - Simgot EM6L - Truthear Zero - QKZ x HBB - 7Hz Salnotes Zero - Logitech C270 - Behringer PS400 - BM700  - Colormunki Smile - Speedlink Torid - Jysk Stenderup - LG 24x External DVD writer - Konig smart card reader
  • Laptop: Acer E5–575G-386R 15.6" 1080p (i3 6100U + 12GB DDR4 (4GB+8GB) + GeForce 940MX + 256GB nVME) Win 10 Pro x64 22H2 - Logitech G305 + AAA Lithium battery
  • Networking: Asus TUF Gaming AX6000 - Arcadyan ISP router - 35/7 Mbps vDSL
  • TV and gadgets: TCL 50EP680 50" 4K LED + Sharp HT-SB100 75W RMS soundbar - Samsung Galaxy Tab A8 10.1" - OnePlus 9 256GB - Olymous Cameda C-160 - GameBoy Color 
  • Streaming/Server/Storage PC: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 - LC-Power LC-CC-120 - MSI B450 Tomahawk Max - 2x4GB ADATA 2666 DDR4 - 120GB Kingston V300 - Toshiba DT01ACA100 1TB - Toshiba DT01ACA200 2TB - 2x WD Green 2TB - Sapphire Pulse AMD Radeon R9 380X - 550W EVGA G3 SuperNova - Chieftec Giga DF-01B - Logitech G710+ - Roccat Kone Pure Military Desert strike - Logitech S-220
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