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So it would seem that I've reached a limit somewhere. Regardless of what cooling solution I've tried, I can't seem to exceed 4.4ghz. Yet at 4.4ghz, it is rock stable at 1.190v. The moment I attempt to add the voltage needed to go to 4.5, 4.6, 4.7, and 4.8, I can post and run my system pretty normally. Temps are in check with Real Temp. But the moment I go to stress test it, it just shuts down and restarts.

 

Now, have I reached the limitations of something, somewhere? Is there a setting in my Bios I need to trigger, or disable? Any light on this would be awesome.

 

System Specs are in my Signature.

CPU: Intel i5-4690k                                                               RAM: 16gb Corsair Vengance Pro DDR3-2400                                                                     Case: NZXT S340

Cooler: CM Hyper 212 Evo                                                  Storage: Intel 730 SSD                                                                                                            PSU: EVGA 850G2

Mobo: Asus Z97-A 3.1                                                          GPU: 980ti G1                                                                                                                          OS: Windows 10 Pro

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I've had a similar problem with my 4770k.  It just won't remain stable past 4.2 ghz no matter what I try.

 

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but some chips just don't overclock as well as others (luck of the draw).

 

What you could try is increasing the voltage in small increments of 0.05 and checking if it's stable each time.  I wouldn't go past 1.2 or 1.25v though, since anything beyond can endanger your cpu's lifespan.

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I've had a similar problem with my 4770k.  It just won't remain stable past 4.2 ghz no matter what I try.

 

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but some chips just don't overclock as well as others (luck of the draw).

 

What you could try is increasing the voltage in small increments of 0.05 and checking if it's stable each time.  I wouldn't go past 1.2 or 1.25v though, since anything beyond can endanger your cpu's lifespan.

That would be very disappointing. Especially with it's stability at 4.4 at such low voltage. I thought I had won the lottery.

CPU: Intel i5-4690k                                                               RAM: 16gb Corsair Vengance Pro DDR3-2400                                                                     Case: NZXT S340

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That would be very disappointing. Especially with it's stability at 4.4 at such low voltage. I thought I had won the lottery.

Hey, you got a much better chip than I did  :P

 

On the plus side your options aren't depleted yet, as you could always up the voltage to 1.25v and see if the stability improves.

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Hey, you got a much better chip than I did  :P

 

On the plus side your options aren't depleted yet, as you could always up the voltage to 1.25v and see if the stability improves.

Trying 4.5ghz @ 1.25v now

CPU: Intel i5-4690k                                                               RAM: 16gb Corsair Vengance Pro DDR3-2400                                                                     Case: NZXT S340

Cooler: CM Hyper 212 Evo                                                  Storage: Intel 730 SSD                                                                                                            PSU: EVGA 850G2

Mobo: Asus Z97-A 3.1                                                          GPU: 980ti G1                                                                                                                          OS: Windows 10 Pro

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I really want to try mine, but I just can't figure out what all the numbers do. And I scared to fiddle with it.  :ph34r:

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I really want to try mine, but I just can't figure out what all the numbers do. And I scared to fiddle with it.  :ph34r:

I think overclocking can seem scary until you jump into it and realize just how easy it really is.

 

There's a few quirks here and there, like mine, but for the most part it's really straight forward.

 

Linus has a good video for OC'ing the Haswell chips.

CPU: Intel i5-4690k                                                               RAM: 16gb Corsair Vengance Pro DDR3-2400                                                                     Case: NZXT S340

Cooler: CM Hyper 212 Evo                                                  Storage: Intel 730 SSD                                                                                                            PSU: EVGA 850G2

Mobo: Asus Z97-A 3.1                                                          GPU: 980ti G1                                                                                                                          OS: Windows 10 Pro

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I think overclocking can seem scary until you jump into it and realize just how easy it really is.

 

There's a few quirks here and there, like mine, but for the most part it's really straight forward.

 

Linus has a good video for OC'ing the Haswell chips.

I just want a guide for doing it with my specific bios. The only one I have found, uses the 4790k instead of 4690k, and when I look at the screen shots, theirs looks different to mine. Not to mention, I don't really have the patience to stress test for hours on end. Unless I could just play bf hardline for a few hours straight.

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Trying 4.5ghz @ 1.25v now

I wish you luck.

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I wish you luck.

My shutoff point is 1.310v. I raised the voltage slowly until it shutdown @ 4.6ghz.

 

I did find that it seems stable at 4.5ghz @ 1.250v-1.260v. Burning now.

CPU: Intel i5-4690k                                                               RAM: 16gb Corsair Vengance Pro DDR3-2400                                                                     Case: NZXT S340

Cooler: CM Hyper 212 Evo                                                  Storage: Intel 730 SSD                                                                                                            PSU: EVGA 850G2

Mobo: Asus Z97-A 3.1                                                          GPU: 980ti G1                                                                                                                          OS: Windows 10 Pro

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I'm currently running at 4.3 at 1.162v . 4.4 worked fine but I couldn't get my ram to run xmp so I went back down. Didn't optimize 4.4 and just ran at 1.2v but I have a feeling I could get it around where OP has his. Never could get mine to like 4.5 myself. I had a 965 black that did this to me as well. It did small overclocks with barely any voltage but once I add voltage the whole thing became unstable in stress tests. 

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I'm currently running at 4.3 at 1.162v . 4.4 worked fine but I couldn't get my ram to run xmp so I went back down. Didn't optimize 4.4 and just ran at 1.2v but I have a feeling I could get it around where OP has his. Never could get mine to like 4.5 myself. I had a 965 black that did this to me as well. It did small overclocks with barely any voltage but once I add voltage the whole thing became unstable in stress tests. 

Everything looked fine for me at 4.5ghz @ 1.260v during the burn test... but the system was acting funny. Random applications were crashing and force closing... lol. So I went back to 4.4ghz @ 1.220v.

 

It just sucks when your cooling solution is outperforming your CPU. ;)

CPU: Intel i5-4690k                                                               RAM: 16gb Corsair Vengance Pro DDR3-2400                                                                     Case: NZXT S340

Cooler: CM Hyper 212 Evo                                                  Storage: Intel 730 SSD                                                                                                            PSU: EVGA 850G2

Mobo: Asus Z97-A 3.1                                                          GPU: 980ti G1                                                                                                                          OS: Windows 10 Pro

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YTpQZVQ.pngProbably should have taken the CPU Cooler off of silent mode... but it's too late and don't feel like running it again.

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That would be very disappointing. Especially with it's stability at 4.4 at such low voltage. I thought I had won the lottery.

Don't feel bad. My CPU does that crap too. Black screen shutoff randomly at 3.9GHz; 3.8GHz perfectly stable. It's a bad chip too so it gets way too hot; not gonna push for 1.1v or more to see if 3.9 is stable enough. It's pointless.

 

I did find that it seems stable at 4.5ghz @ 1.250v-1.260v. Burning now.

Sounds like your chip is also like mine xD. 0.89v = 3.5GHz. 1.08v = 3.6GHz or higher. Will BSOD all the time otherwise. It really hates not being stock. At least I don't have my beefed up cooling setup yet so I don't have the problem where your cooling outperforms your CPU xD.

 

Oh, and see this here?

 

Everything looked fine for me at 4.5ghz @ 1.260v during the burn test... but the system was acting funny. 

Burn and stress tests mean very little except that your system can handle the heat. Pretty much. I can stress test all day and idle/watch streams/etc all day with an undervolt + an OC (see above? 1.08v is "stock" voltage for my chip) but I'll crash in things like: Hearthstone. CoD: BO1. etc.

 

There's no *real* way to test your whole PC. You get it, you leave the PC on for about 5 days, run all sorts of low-level, midrange, high-end programs, complete stress testing and make sure it's stable at idle and then you'll know if you're good.

I have finally moved to a desktop. Also my guides are outdated as hell.

 

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You can try turning up your h100i's pump speed as much as you can while still having it quiet. Have you changed the cache ratio and voltage at all? You may want to set them to fixed values instead of auto. Also check to see what your cpu input voltage (VCCIN) is and try increasing it a bit. My VCCIN was 1.75 at stock and I had to increase it to 1.85 for my core voltage to be stable at 1.268 but you can find what works for you. Make sure you monitor your temps and turn up your pump and fans as needed though.

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So it would seem that I've reached a limit somewhere. Regardless of what cooling solution I've tried, I can't seem to exceed 4.4ghz. Yet at 4.4ghz, it is rock stable at 1.190v. The moment I attempt to add the voltage needed to go to 4.5, 4.6, 4.7, and 4.8, I can post and run my system pretty normally. Temps are in check with Real Temp. But the moment I go to stress test it, it just shuts down and restarts.

 

Now, have I reached the limitations of something, somewhere? Is there a setting in my Bios I need to trigger, or disable? Any light on this would be awesome.

 

System Specs are in my Signature.

For the 4690k 1.3V is pretty common for overclocking, I wouldn't (and didn't hesitate to go there and slightly above).  My 4690k is at 4.6GHz at 1.3V, you will probably need to go somewhere similar.  As long as your temps are still good under load, then I wouldn't worry about the voltage.  The shut down and restart tells you that you don't have enough voltage.  

 

Keep in mind that Z97 has an adaptive voltage feature, and when you find a stable manual overclock (only run stress tests using manual voltage), then you can dial in those settings in an adaptive overclock, and your cpu will spend 95% of the time at 35°C, and clock up when you need it.  

 

The other thing that you might want to try is overclocking the cache, which you do in the same way that you're overclocking the core.  Cache isn't as overclockable as the core (that's why they're unlinked now), the highest I could get mine was 4.2 GHz with 1.3V.  Cache ratio is the multiplier, and the voltage will either be "ring voltage" or "cache voltage", both are the same.  

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I just want a guide for doing it with my specific bios. The only one I have found, uses the 4790k instead of 4690k, and when I look at the screen shots, theirs looks different to mine. Not to mention, I don't really have the patience to stress test for hours on end. Unless I could just play bf hardline for a few hours straight.

Stability testing varies.

People running stress test for hours at a time have a very poor concept of how stress testing is supposed to be used.

What I do is use stress tests to see if it crashes underload from lack of voltage.

Real world testing is what you should actually use to validate an OC. Usually I run a cpu heavy game for 30 min or so and render a short video.

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Stability testing varies.

People running stress test for hours at a time have a very poor concept of how stress testing is supposed to be used.

What I do is use stress tests to see if it crashes underload from lack of voltage.

Real world testing is what you should actually use to validate an OC. Usually I run a cpu heavy game for 30 min or so and render a short video.

So, an all day session of Battlefield Hardline, or Battlefield 4, would be acceptable? lol

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You can try turning up your h100i's pump speed as much as you can while still having it quiet. Have you changed the cache ratio and voltage at all? You may want to set them to fixed values instead of auto. Also check to see what your cpu input voltage (VCCIN) is and try increasing it a bit. My VCCIN was 1.75 at stock and I had to increase it to 1.85 for my core voltage to be stable at 1.268 but you can find what works for you. Make sure you monitor your temps and turn up your pump and fans as needed though.

 

For the 4690k 1.3V is pretty common for overclocking, I wouldn't (and didn't hesitate to go there and slightly above).  My 4690k is at 4.6GHz at 1.3V, you will probably need to go somewhere similar.  As long as your temps are still good under load, then I wouldn't worry about the voltage.  The shut down and restart tells you that you don't have enough voltage.  

 

Keep in mind that Z97 has an adaptive voltage feature, and when you find a stable manual overclock (only run stress tests using manual voltage), then you can dial in those settings in an adaptive overclock, and your cpu will spend 95% of the time at 35°C, and clock up when you need it.  

 

The other thing that you might want to try is overclocking the cache, which you do in the same way that you're overclocking the core.  Cache isn't as overclockable as the core (that's why they're unlinked now), the highest I could get mine was 4.2 GHz with 1.3V.  Cache ratio is the multiplier, and the voltage will either be "ring voltage" or "cache voltage", both are the same.  

I had the Cache set to a 39 multiplier. I think the input voltage is set to 1.9ish. I run everything on Auto other than the Ratio, core multiplier, cache multiplier, BCLK, Core Voltage mode, Vcore, Cache Voltage Mode, Cache Voltage. And RAM Voltage.

 

I also use my XMP Profile for my RAM, which is DDR3 1866mhz CAS 8.

 

See what has me stumped is once I exceed a certain voltage, that's when the shutdowns happen. So you guys are suggesting that even more voltage would likely eliminate this?

 

I'm not sure if my pump is speed variable, seems to have one speed. My Rad fans are on a pretty aggressive custom curve, from silence under normal operation to performance under loads.

 

I'd love to get this chip higher, seeing as I can't seem to come anywhere near 50c while playing ESO, a very CPU-Bound game. And that is at 4.4ghz@1.220v/39 Cache@1.150v. I feel like there is a lot more to be had from this CPU, no way it's capable of going down to 1.190v @ 4.4ghz yet it can't touch 4.5-4.8. I mean it will post and boot windows all the way to 4.8ghz. Maybe more if I was feeling frisky and added a ton of voltage. 

 

There's something I'm missing here.

CPU: Intel i5-4690k                                                               RAM: 16gb Corsair Vengance Pro DDR3-2400                                                                     Case: NZXT S340

Cooler: CM Hyper 212 Evo                                                  Storage: Intel 730 SSD                                                                                                            PSU: EVGA 850G2

Mobo: Asus Z97-A 3.1                                                          GPU: 980ti G1                                                                                                                          OS: Windows 10 Pro

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So, an all day session of Battlefield Hardline, or Battlefield 4, would be acceptable? lol

So, an all day session of Battlefield Hardline, or Battlefield 4, would be acceptable? lol

My rule is if it doesn't crash doing the things I normally do, then it's fine.

People who recommend extensive stress testing do so from the perspective of "this is the only way to know for sure if your system will crash or not after 48 hours of rendering". Realistically, stress test put loads far beyond any normal usage on your CPU and I never ever run them more than ~15 minutes. It just shortens the life of your hardware.

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