Experiences with non-techies

[mikat]

14 hours ago, papapoi said:

way back when i was building pc's to make money, i once encountered this one guy who knew nothing about computers. i custom built a pc for him, delivered it to his house, spent over 4 hours explaining to him all the ins and outs about the pc.

 

8 p.m (2hours after leaving his place) - he calls asking me how to hook up all the cables because he moved it into his room(why? because he wanted to search porn in private, lol) 

10 p.m. call again asking me what his password was, he setup his own password i never knew what it was but he asked me anyway . OMG, drive back to his house , hack his password  and spend time convincing him, that its not that easy to do, i just knew how to do it.

 

2  a.m - final straw, call asking "how do i turn off AOL(yes , Aol, it was that long ago) " , my answer i jokingly said, "pull the plug from the outlet" and he did

 

next day, another 2 hours explaining everything again, got $20 gas for it but not worth the $1000000 headache.

 

gave up building pc's for the next 10 years for anyone but myself, until i built one for a relative. but thank god for google and youtube the easy replacement tech support i didnt have to go though the same headache

only build for people you know that can actually think properly

[Tosa]

10 minutes ago, wkdpaul said:

That's not how it works

Feel free to enlighten me on how driver's aren't native x64 or x86 applications, and what they actually are.

11 minutes ago, wkdpaul said:

we're talking about Windows installing the drivers for the same device when it's plugged into a different USB port

I know, and I didn't state otherwise. I was merely suggesting a theory as to why that is.

14 minutes ago, Ryan_Vickers said:

But it should recognize a device it's seen before, even if it's in a different port.  Is that really so much to ask!?

I frankly don't know exactly how Windows (and other OSes for that matter) handles devices and drivers. Maybe Linus should make an "as fast as possible" about this?

[Aleksbgbg]

Some guy in a flash game said that the April Fools joke that the developers made (making the game pixelated unless changed from the settings) made his GTX 980Ti smoke and blow up.

 

 

End my suffering.

[FunctionCore]

Oh no, here we go...

 

I have had so many annoying experiences with this kind of stuff. In no particular order:

1. No, you open a new window (tab opening)

2. If you didn't play around with it, you wouldn't get infected (virtual machines/VMs)

3. Why would you want to replace the OS that came with the PC (Linux)

4. If I reinstall, my PC won't work (Clean install, Drivers & Bloatware)

 

Those are the experiences that I have had with non-techy people & technology.

[WkdPaul]

35 minutes ago, Tosa said:

Feel free to enlighten me on how driver's aren't native x64 or x86 applications, and what they actually are.

I never said drivers aren't native applications, you were describing the actual drivers running, while we were talking about drivers install. Those are completely different. That's what I meant when I said "that's not how it works" ... Rereading myself I have to say that sounds extremely vague, sorry about that.

 

57 minutes ago, Ryan_Vickers said:

But it should recognize a device it's seen before, even if it's in a different port.  Is that really so much to ask!?

Check my earlier reply, that behaviour is about USB device that don't have serial number, Windows can't really know if it's the same device or not, so to be safe it reinstall the drivers. Imagine you have 2 identical flash drives, lets say Windows "sees" them as the same, now imagine plugging those 2 devices, at the same time while Windows identify them as the same, that would cause some serious headache to say the least. (If I remember right Startech did that a few years ago, they sold USB device that all had the same USB serial number)

[papapoi]

1 hour ago, mikat said:

only build for people you know that can actually think properly

this guy was a college graduate and had his own business, when i look back i think it was more him being afraid to break or damage the pc, every person new to a pc has that thought. even when i build a pc i have that fear when i press that power button i have thoughts like "did i put enough thermal paste", are all the cables connected, i hope my psu is not a dud and frys my components,.

now that i am older i have become a bit more patient and fix pc's for free and only charge for parts and dont mind answering any questions at any time since i'm usually up till 3-4 am anyway. especially if it's some 20 something year old hottie. The old guys , meh, i call em back in the morning , lol

[Hackentosher]

My aunt just popped into my room, pointed at my rig, and said "I like your hard drive"... Is it possible to disown yourself from a family?

[DirtyDane]

21 hours ago, Fgtfv567 said:

The mouse is next to the monitor! They should just rename it to "computer station"

Unless she has an S6, just stick an SD card in her phone

its an s6.........  and also that laptop station thing reminds me of the fact that for some reason has anyone noticed how often people will login to their social media etc on store display laptops or desktops. its amazing i found someone had their facebook account logged in and.. it was not a very um well they had stuff haha. people really need to know not to login to display items with their own accounts or to use them for personal shit to begin with

[WkdPaul]

2 minutes ago, DirtyDane said:

its an s6.........  and also that laptop station thing reminds me of the fact that for some reason has anyone noticed how often people will login to their social media etc on store display laptops or desktops. its amazing i found someone had their facebook account logged in and.. it was not a very um well they had stuff haha. people really need to know not to login to display items with their own accounts or to use them for personal shit to begin with

When I browse at BestBuy I will check Facebook simply because I know some people do that, if it's logged in I'll post some random thing and finish with "you shouldn't log into your accounts on BestBuy demo computer dumbass" ... then log them out. lol

[DirtyDane]

27 minutes ago, Hackentosher said:

My aunt just popped into my room, pointed at my rig, and said "I like your hard drive"... Is it possible to disown yourself from a family?

*looks at your rig* Nice cpu. (yup i started that again) and unless your asian i dont think you can.

[Hackentosher]

1 minute ago, DirtyDane said:

*looks at your rig* Nice cpu. (yup i started that again) and unless your asian i dont think you can.

My dad calls my rig "the CPU"

 

[DirtyDane]

18 minutes ago, Hackentosher said:

My dad calls my rig "the CPU"

 

i personally named my rig The Goldfish on it being my first build and that its not the strongest but certainly a decent gaming rig. (specs are in my signature if your curious on the specs) The Goldfish is a reference to well The Goldfish which is one of the beginner airships in guns of icarus online. 

[Hackentosher]

1 minute ago, DirtyDane said:

i personally named my rig The Goldfish on it being my first build and that its not the strongest but certainly a decent gaming rig. (specs are in my signature if your curious on the specs) The Goldfish is a reference to well The Goldfish which is one of the beginner airships in guns of icarus online. 

Well like not even as it's name. It's called The Milano, but no one knows that. He just refers to the whole ensemble as "the CPU"

[DirtyDane]

1 minute ago, Hackentosher said:

Well like not even as it's name. It's called The Milano, but no one knows that. He just refers to the whole ensemble as "the CPU"

i actually want to get a little copper badge that looks all steampunky that says The Goldfish on it for the side of my rig that would look pretty damn cool to me

[VmKid]

"Who's your Internet Service Provider?"

"Internet Explorer."

 

I also once had someone try to convince me that Windows was UNIX-based, because "everything is UNIX-based".

[Principis]

10 hours ago, DirtyDane said:

its an s6.........

You can teach her how to use USB OTG

[DirtyDane]

2 hours ago, Principis said:

You can teach her how to use USB OTG

but thats work.

[BingoFishy]

20 hours ago, Tosa said:

Feel free to enlighten me on how driver's aren't native x64 or x86 applications, and what they actually are.

I know, and I didn't state otherwise. I was merely suggesting a theory as to why that is.

I frankly don't know exactly how Windows (and other OSes for that matter) handles devices and drivers. Maybe Linus should make an "as fast as possible" about this?

He made a fast as possible about drivers in general, if it's any help. 

I know it's not exactly what you're looking for, but it's close. 

Honestly, techquickie is a lifesaver.

[Principis]

2 hours ago, DirtyDane said:

but thats work.

Lol too lazy

[Akolyte]

9 hours ago, BingoFishy said:

He made a fast as possible about drivers in general, if it's any help. 

I know it's not exactly what you're looking for, but it's close. 

Honestly, techquickie is a lifesaver.

What about ODBC drivers though?  They are not software interfacing with the hardware.

On 2/04/2016 at 3:17 AM, wkdpaul said:

How about Windows 10 as a non-techie???

 

Just decided to play a bit of GTA5, so as always I plug my wireless 360 controller to be sure it's fully charged so I can unplug it later.

 

As soon as I did I get a popup ... Windows is installing the plug&play drivers ... WTF??? This Windows install is the same since I did a clean install last year, the Wireless and Plug&Play drivers were installed the same day of that install, I haven't changed USB port AND when I played 2 days ago, it was all fine (meaning no install popup)!

 

WTF Windows???

I actually really like Windows 10.  Windows 10 contains many improvements and has a lot of optimization and security benifits over Windows 7 and Windows 8.  Windows 8.1 includes several new group policies used for security which limited application access. But Windows 10 adds even more and can restrict them even more. 

 

And they also offered a new security feature which Windows Defender can use and even other antivirus's can use. I think AVG is the only one that I've seen use it so far.

[Koshigaya]

At my job we use the office computer a lot and people literally open a whole new browser when they want to go on a different page. Holy shit just open a new tab, we don't need the same browser opened 20 times.

One time while I was being trained I was moving my mouse around in a circle while something was loading and my co-worker freaked out on me and told me to stop because I might "mess something up" and slow down the computer

[l_zheng101]

I had built a gaming PC for my friend who isn't tech savvy in any way. I just gave it it him and left him to plug everything in. Two weeks later, he calls me and tells me his games are performing terribly that he was getting like 10 fps in Fallout at 1080 keeping in mind he has a 4460 and a GTX 970. I went over to take a look and I found that he plugged the hdmi cable into the hdmi port on his motherboard and not the GPU. Derp.

[Fgtfv567]

38 minutes ago, l_zheng101 said:

I had built a gaming PC for my friend who isn't tech savvy in any way. I just gave it it him and left him to plug everything in. Two weeks later, he calls me and tells me his games are performing terribly that he was getting like 10 fps in Fallout at 1080 keeping in mind he has a 4460 and a GTX 970. I went over to take a look and I found that he plugged the hdmi cable into the hdmi port on his motherboard and not the GPU. Derp.

That's not too bad, not something you expect people to know

[l_zheng101]

19 minutes ago, Fgtfv567 said:

That's not too bad, not something you expect people to know

I guess but there was clearly a hdmi port on the GPU.

[vanished]

1 hour ago, Fgtfv567 said:

That's not too bad, not something you expect people to know

It's not something I would expect "average people" to know, but anyone who has ever played a game should know better.  I guess this was his first real PC though so...