GTX 970 + NZXZ g10

[louisdegel]

Hello
My Inno3D GTX 970 runs at 99% load at about 80°C and the Fans are spinning at arround 2300rpm. My Question is do i have to upgrade to an G10? And which AIO do i have to use ? An 120, 140, 240, or even an 280mm Rad? I need Help   
Do anyone have any experience with an NZXZ G10?
(Sorry for my bad english i´m from Germany and i dont want to use the Google translator )

[The_Doctor7019]

What is it that you are doing where the card is almost maxed

[louisdegel]

Play like BF3/4 Arma 3 at 1080p

[The_Doctor7019]

your gpu shouldn't be running that high in BF3 or 4 you might want to check you settings to make sure that you don't have the resolution set higher than 1080p or turn down the details in game

[Skrizzles]

1. The Doctor is right. A single gtx 970 is having a tough time on ULTRA settings in those games. If you wanna go there, I would recommend SLI.

 

2. Your English is fine. Thats coming from an American.

[Faceman]

Hello

My Inno3D GTX 970 runs at 99% load at about 80°C and the Fans are spinning at arround 2300rpm. My Question is do i have to upgrade to an G10? And which AIO do i have to use ? An 120, 140, 240, or even an 280mm Rad? I need Help   

Do anyone have any experience with an NZXZ G10?

(Sorry for my bad english i´m from Germany and i dont want to use the Google translator )

Hello!  I have a lot of experience with the G10 and would be happy to help you get your noise and temps down.

 

Anything more than a 120mm radiator with the G10 and you start to hit diminishing returns.  An H55 is pretty much the go-to. If you really want, an H75/H90/X41 is the highest end I would go, but the difference will be minimal.

 

The first thing we need to do is figure out what your PCB looks like.  Most 970s have VRMs on the left side of the GPU Die, which is not desirable with the G10.  It will still work, but it requires the use of extras, which costs more money, and doesn't look as pretty.

 

Is this your PCB?  You need to make absolutely sure.

 

 

This is the Inno3D GeForce GTX 970 iChill Ultra (C97U-1SDN-M5DNX) model.  Please double and triple check that this is the exact model that you have.  If it is, then that is very good, because the VRMs are on the right side, which is exactly what we want with the G10 mod.

 

In addition to the G10 and AIO of your choice, you are going to want to cover the VRMs.  To do this, you need to find some thermal pads, and aluminum heatsinks. There was another guy from Germany that I helped in the G10 Owner's Club, let me try and find the materials he used. Found them! 

 

Alphacool Thermal Pads

Aluminum Heatsinks

 

What you will do is, place the thermal pads over the VRMs, it should look like this:

 

Next, you will remove any adhesive that comes pre-applied to the heatsinks.  Make sure to clean the bottoms of the heatsinks well.  Isopropyl alcohol works very well.  Get them nice and clean.  You will then place the heatsinks on top of the thermal pad.  Give it a firm thumb push, but not too firm that anything gets damaged, use your judgement.  You then let everything sit for an hour or two so that a bond forms.  Then you can mount the G10 and place it in your case!

 

If you don't already have some thermal paste, it is a good idea to buy some.  I highly recommend Gelid GC-Extreme.  Other good ones are: Noctua NT-H1, IC Diamond, MX-4, Prolimatech-PK3.  It is also a good idea to buy a 2nd 120/140mm fan so that you can go push/pull.  This allows for lower fan speeds, which gives you the same performance as one fan at a higher RPM. You could also buy a VGA to PWM adapter which allows you to plug the 92mm fan into your GPU, which frees up a motherboard fan header.  You want to set that 92mm fan to 100% at all times though because it is cooling the VRMs.  Don't worry, it is not noticeable even at 100% speed.

[Midnitewarrior4]

trust me this guy knows what hes doing ^

[louisdegel]

sorry for the late reply and thank you for your help 

 

My pcb looks like this its th Inno3d GTX 970 oc.

I saw that you are using a x31 on an GTX 780 whitch i guess has an much higher TDP than my GTX 970 because my biggest problem was that i dont know if an 120mm rad can hadle the heat of my 970 or if should upgrad to 140mm or even 240mm, but i thinkt that 240mm are verry overkill.

And again thank you for your reply, because GTA 5 lauched my 970 runns constantly at 80°C an the Fan spins with <2000 rpm so it would be nice if you can quickly reply.
(like my 1. post i´m very sorry for my Terrible english but i hope you can still understand me)

[Faceman]

@louisdegel

 

No problem, happy to help, just need to quote or "@" me so that I know you have replied.  Your english is very good, I understand you perfectly!

 

The 780 has a higher TDP than the 970, so a 120mm is plenty for a 970.  I would go for an H55. You hit massive diminishing returns past 120mm for the G10.  The difference between an H55 and X61(280mm) is less than 10C, so an H55 is really the sweet spot.

 

Here is the problem.  Your GPU is a mini, and the VRMs are on the opposite side of the GPU Die.  I don't think a G10 is the right thing for you.

 

I think something like a DIY project is a better option for you:

 

You will also need to buy something called an Antec Spot Cool and angle it directly over the VRMs.

 

You could also consider buying some thermal pads and heatsinks for the VRMs like I detailed above.

[louisdegel]

@Faceman

Okay thats shitty
Can i use an h100i for it or again only an asetek one, because i have one for my cpu and im almost out of money^^ (for the cpu i can use the stock heatsink until i have money for an h55)

Should i use only the pads+heatsink or only th spot cool or even both? 

[Faceman]

@Faceman

Okay thats shitty

Can i use an h100i for it or again only an asetek one, because i have one for my cpu and im almost out of money^^ (for the cpu i can use the stock heatsink until i have money for an h55)

Should i use only the pads+heatsink or only th spot cool or even both? 

I'm really not too sure, I don't have any experience with that zip tie mod.  Maybe ask in the Youtube comments?  I don't think you have to be limited to an Asetek mount because you are using zip ties, but I'm not positive.

 

Pads + Heatsinks + Spot Cool would be the best.  Considering you won't buy the G10 Bracket, that money otherwise spent translates to those extras.

[louisdegel]

@Faceman

on my gtx 970 is an meatlplate directly on the vram can i let it on an face the spotcool onto it or do i have to buy thohse heatsinks?
 

[Faceman]

@Faceman

on my gtx 970 is an meatlplate directly on the vram can i let it on an face the spotcool onto it or do i have to buy thohse heatsinks?

 

Huh?  Could you post a picture please?

[louisdegel]

@Faceman

 

 

it looks like this

[Faceman]

@Faceman

 

 

 

it looks like this

Ohhh!  Very nice!

 

No need for thermal pads and heatsinks then.  The Antec Spot Cool should be enough.  If you really want, you could buy those aluminum heatsinks that come with pre-applied tape, and you can place a few of them over where the VRMs go, but that is not necessary.

[louisdegel]

Ohhh!  Very nice!

 

No need for thermal pads and heatsinks then.  The Antec Spot Cool should be enough.  If you really want, you could buy those aluminum heatsinks that come with pre-applied tape, and you can place a few of them over where the VRMs go, but that is not necessary.

 

ok that sounds good could i use 2 140mm corsair af fans at low rpm and ghetto them under it ?

[Faceman]

ok that sounds good could i use 2 140mm corsair af fans at low rpm and ghetto them under it ?

You could

 

 

The VRMs are highlighted in blue and are covered by that metal mid-plate.  All you need to do is get good airflow over that area and you will be fine.  It wouldn't hurt to have a 2nd 140mm fan blowing over the rest of your card, but not as important as the VRMs.

 

[Blackie Sheen]

your gpu shouldn't be running that high in BF3 or 4 you might want to check you settings to make sure that you don't have the resolution set higher than 1080p or turn down the details in game

What are you even saying. Gpus will always run maxed out in games unless there is a bottleneck or that in game fps was limited

[louisdegel]

@Faceman

Ok i tried to ghetto the h100i block onto the GPU, I thought that the block makes good contact with the gpu, IDLE Temp 34°C. Then i start to run GTA 5 and my gpu goes up to 95°C an an core clock of 135Mhz  . Then i realised that th block is too big for the cut-out is to small. Can i use the g10 as an adapter so that the h55 makes good contact and then the spot cool cooles the vram or is it enough that the fan of the g10 cools the metal plate where i can put some heatsinks onto it, because my ghetto skills arent that good like you might noticed 

[Faceman]

@Faceman

Ok i tried to ghetto the h100i block onto the GPU, I thought that the block makes good contact with the gpu, IDLE Temp 34°C. Then i start to run GTA 5 and my gpu goes up to 95°C an an core clock of 135Mhz  . Then i realised that th block is too big for the cut-out is to small. Can i use the g10 as an adapter so that the h55 makes good contact and then the spot cool cooles the vram or is it enough that the fan of the g10 cools the metal plate where i can put some heatsinks onto it, because my ghetto skills arent that good like you might noticed 

Darn...

 

Maybe the zip ties weren't tight enough?

 

You could try the G10, but you will still need the Antec Spot Cool to get airflow over the left side of the GPU die where the VRMs are.

[louisdegel]

Ok little status update:
I looked if i can get an full PCB GTX 970 and give him mine, and one guy offerd me his ref. GTX 980
He said that he wants an new model which inst that loud like an ref. desing.
So i can use the g10 !
But i have one question did you knof if i can let the backplate on it or did i have to remove it for the backplate of the g10 ?

[Faceman]

Ok little status update:

I looked if i can get an full PCB GTX 970 and give him mine, and one guy offerd me his ref. GTX 980

He said that he wants an new model which inst that loud like an ref. desing.

So i can use the g10 !

But i have one question did you knof if i can let the backplate on it or did i have to remove it for the backplate of the g10 ?

Need to quote or "@" me to let me know you have responded.

 

So, someone wants to give you a reference GTX980 for your GTX 970?  This seems way too good to be true.  Are you including cash or anything to even the deal?  A straight up 980 to 970 switch seems fishy, even if he just wants less noise.

 

Yes, you can use the backplate!  In order to use the backplate you will have to slightly modify the G10's mounting backplate.  The G10 mounting backplate is a small square piece that helps you mount the G10.  It comes with a thick foam pad.  You will have to either thin down this foam, or remove it entirely to use the GPU's backplate.  You can also use the G10's mounting backplate by mounting it upside down, so that the foam piece is up in the air instead of touching the GPU.

[louisdegel]

@Faceman

No i have to give him 225 €
okay because the backplate looks very sick

[Faceman]

@Faceman

No i have to give him 225 €

okay because the backplate looks very sick

A 970 and 225e....  I think you need to get that number down.  200 Euro max.  His is a reference card, not worth as much as non-reference cards.

[louisdegel]

@Faceman
yes but the my gtx 970 isnt the best in terms of temps and noise so i dont know if i can get the price down, i can try it but i dont think that he goes down in price.
But then i have to wait even more to buy the g10+h55 and i personaly like the blower style cooler much more then the other because i had an ref. gtx 780 which had an memory error